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  1. #311
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    Acrimonia's Avatar
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    Flora Arbour
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    Quote Originally Posted by tukuiPat View Post
    well I just wanna throw in my two cents from passed MMO experiences and EULAs, general rule of thumb is, by buying their game and paying their month subscription(when time comes to actually pay) you're paying to access their servers and data, which you could say you're renting your toons as they're technically the property of SE.

    Well in the EULA it generally states that things can and do happen and that you wont be able to access their services and that they'd generally inform us if they notice a mass amount of players unable to user their services or they have to restrict their services(which they have said they had to because they didn't expect such a positive response to ARR) so the whole Entitlement feeling you guys have that you should be able to get on the game any time you want during the first month when the hype is really high and they didn't really have the extra servers to handle the flood of people.

    So the gist is, you're not entitled to anything, this entitlement phase for people needs be kicked out. When World of Warcraft first launched, where people mad they couldn't play? well yes but they didn't go spamming forums whining because they weren't entitlistic people back then.
    The 30 days free is pretty standard for all MMOs, so yes we are already paying. We're playing for a game that a lot of people cannot access based on various things that are going on.

    As for these ENTITLED people? They are the ones PAYING for the game, that's keeping it UP and running. I'm pretty sure there's no one in any game that wants to pay a sub fee to MAYBE play 1-2 times a week, and have the servers down the rest of the time (gross exaggeration). I could throw any analogy out there about things. Basically you're trusting SE to provide a service that you are paying for. If they can't, they have no right to your business. Sure people lack patience and what not, but perhaps if handled different the outcome would be better, even given the current problems.

    And at the end of the day, people like to rant and will continue to rant. Every positive and negative comment seems to be a rant, whether it be at SE or the posters that are angry with being unable to access things.

    But yeah, hopefully SE comes up with some compensation, explanation or something that prevents them from losing a majority of the people that were initially interested in this game. Or perhaps people are overexaggerating as always and will just shut up when it works!

    http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/08/30...scrolls-online
    My bud wants me to play that. :/ TOO MANY MMOS!
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  2. #312
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    Nareia's Avatar
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    Aurora Nareia
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    Coeurl
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    SO LET'S SAY, THE BLONDE IS THE POSTER AND THOSE TRYING TO ACT LIKE THE GAME IS FANTASTIC RIGHT NOW. AND Brian IS SQUARE ENIX. CONGRATS FOR BEING A TOOL.
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  3. #313
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    Indica Glassjaw
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    It'd be nice to see a game that launched smoothly/smoother/not terrible. Maybe when that happens, the community involved will be decent.
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  4. #314
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    badfts1's Avatar
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    Lexiconical Gap
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    Quote Originally Posted by tukuiPat View Post
    well I just wanna throw in my two cents from passed MMO experiences and EULAs, general rule of thumb is, by buying their game and paying their month subscription(when time comes to actually pay) you're paying to access their servers and data, which you could say you're renting your toons as they're technically the property of SE.

    So the gist is, you're not entitled to anything, this entitlement phase for people needs be kicked out. When World of Warcraft first launched, where people mad they couldn't play? well yes but they didn't go spamming forums whining because they weren't entitlistic people back then.
    Your two cents cost two cents too much. Were you a lawyer, you would realize that TOS are not legal documents and have basically no standing. They do not hold up in court because, among other reasons, it is extremely easy to prove they were never read. They give companies no rights, only excuses.

    We paid money for a working game. There is none.

    This is fraud.
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  5. #315
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    Beinn Bheithir
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    Quote Originally Posted by badfts1 View Post
    Your two cents cost two cents too much. Were you a lawyer, you would realize that TOS are not legal documents and have basically no standing. They do not hold up in court because, among other reasons, it is extremely easy to prove they were never read. They give companies no rights, only excuses.

    We paid money for a working game. There is none.

    This is fraud.
    I can't tell if you're serious and 12, or trolling.
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  6. #316
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    Hibiki Tsukimi
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    I agree with you Xira, completely. I am a bit curious however if they plan to address the AFk issue. I know hot fixes can be sketchy and sometimes cause more issues than they are worth but as a temporary measure it could do a lot of good. IMO.
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  7. #317
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    Callmonger Grom
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    You think they would have learned that last time they tried to launch this game. Plus they were told in Beta and Headstart they needed more servers.

    Guild Wars 2 got an 8/10 from me on their launch.

    This game gets 1/10.

    I have gotten on once this weekend at 2am that sucks
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  8. #318
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    Mina Silver
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombifiers View Post
    Are you fucking kidding me? An AFK kick is a waste of time and wouldn't solve anything?

    "Going to ATTEMPT TO extend the trial" what, like they're going to have some kind of block that prevents them from doing that, other than greed? It's their company, they call the shots. If they want to do it they will, and if they don't want to, they won't. It's that simple.

    There's literally no reason for these problems to not be at least alleviated somewhat within 48 hours. Setting up new servers is not difficult, and should not be difficult for a company that large. I'm not sure what the hell they're doing, but whatever it is, they sure are dragging their asses on it.

    "Bending over backwards" omg. Go outside. You bother me.
    When people deride content, but still play...that's laughable. When people cannot play at all, their concerns/complaints are legitimate and necessary.
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  9. #319
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    Oni Sixx
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    3 hours of trying to log in today. That's enough for me.
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  10. #320
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    Mirrind Rhostarr
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    You know I was going to agree with you, until you put that moronic statement of "You're playing for Free." Funny I dropped almost 100 bucks on a game, it does NOT seem free to me. Had I a)Not dropped that money or b) They suddenly extend the included gametime to cover the days I have not been able to play...ya wont see another real complaint from me about the servers.

    As for "We guessed wrong..." how could they really? They had pre-order numbers world wide, they had early access codes put in days before it started. How can you go "Ooops we made a mistake?" Did they look at the numbers "OH look we have 500,000 codes entered for early access, lets only put enough servers for 400,000 they can take it."

    But really this post is pointless, much like the one above it. They screwed up with the servers, they had numbers and they tried to do the least amount of spending on servers to still run the game. They lost that bet.
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