To the people who are logged in overnight

[DeceptionsWrath]

I see a lot of people calling others selfish for staying logged in... Isn't it selfish that you're telling people to log out for you? Are YOU not only looking out for yourself as well? Maybe you're all just upset that they're on and you're not? I'm locked out as well and you can be damn sure when i get on i'm not getting off til a maintenance. Guess that makes me selfish but guess what? I can live with that.

[Kmpat]

Sadly that is also cause you are on the Japanese server and they arent having NEAR as many problems as the NA/EU servers are

That is not true. JP server have the same problem as NA side. 90000, 1017, 3102 you name it. I had spend 5 hrs. to be able to log in today and still got error 90000 during boss fight and I'm a tank then couldn't log back in because 3102. The difference between JP and NA is that I NEVER see any Japanese AFK for too long or camping in rest area, they always log off so I sill able to log in late at night while NA side well you can see from the reply here.

[Kuraikoto]

only takes me 1-2 minutes to get passed the 1017 error.

Anecdotal evidence is fun. I've been trying to log in for over an hour... and counting. It is known there is an issue and "some" people are having a hard time logging. A few people getting in quickly, frequently or not, doesn't solve the issue. Pissing and moaning doesn't either, unless they aren't putting enough effort in to solving it, but people are pissed so it is going to keep happening.

I guess it really is a good thing they don't let you pay upfront while there is free time remaining on the accounts. Anyways, I'm off to screw around on guitar while staring at 1017's and what not.

[Iolair_Silverwing]

Laughing at all the "if you're a responsible and mature adult you'll log off" BS in this post.

If you had to pick between a completely random persons well being (could be a racist or murderer for all you know) and your own well being,

We're talking about a game, and not the well being of a random person or your own. Comparing a-holes to oranges doesn't justify hogging server space so you can play whenever you get around to it.
I have luckily been able to play the game daily, but the most I've ever AFK'd is using the bathroom or eating a meal. Even if it gets frustrating to try and log in, I will never keep myself AFK'd when I'm done for my own selfish reasons to play "later tonight" or what have you.
By your justification, would it be ok to keep a fire exit blocked for the sake of making it easy for you if it was ever needed? After all, the other people in the building "could" be racists and murderers! They deserve to die! #scoff puhlease

[Rando]

Well its 653 pm est and I've been trying to log in for 20 minutes and guess what? I got in. Probably because one of the people who actually log off this game when they are done did just that. Blame the past few generations(including mine 31 years old) who have grown up on hand outs/ bail outs/ welfare/ unemployment/ just your basic entitlements. Maybe its the government who is to blame, maybe its the parents, but really the responsibility to act accordingly is all left up to the individual. You can throw out all the justifications, all the rationalizations you want to make it seem or sound better to yourself. Do I think I'm better than you? Damn right. Its filth, and yes i said filth, like these that are destroying our gaming community, our country, and our world. Well off to play the game, and when I am done I will log off in an inn for some rested xp like I do every night and hopefully karma will let my spot go to someone like me and not one of the scum of the earth.

[Wren]

Even if they get new servers up, it won't matter without immediate transfer options. I think it feels more like being trapped on legacy servers, since there are very, very few NA servers for Legacy to even be in. SE was worried about the game economy, and at first I thought I could understand that but now it feels like being on a small island with not enough room to stand even on shore. Give us an option to move our 1.0 characters onto other servers! This problem won't stop by just adding new servers.

[Monzcarro]

griefing
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A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game that purposely irritates and harasses other players.
So those that just afk and all the time and don't care about anyone else, yes you fall under this and if they wanted to they could actually ban your account. I'd even laugh in your face if this actually happened as you are part of the problem no matter how much you try to deny it.

I'm sure this thought will give you comfort as you spam 1017. At this point if I get back on I'm never logging out, idgaf. Blame yourself or Square-Enix.

[Sadie_May]

Hey guys while we get fixes on the loging issues and sever congestion issues why don't the people who just keep logged in (you know who you are) do the rest of us a favor and just log out while you're not playing and let the rest of us experience the game.

there is no bazzar and no reason to really stay logged in, right now it's just so you won't get the infamous 1017. but maybe things will go a little smoother while the fixes come if we all put in our little effort to alliviate the congestion.

LOL this is the funniest post yet. If they stay logged in all the time, do you really think they are coming to the forums. NO!!!! This place is for people who cant log in.

[Sanadaiyeve]

A log in slot is still being occupied regardless if the player of it is actively doing content or away from the game. Those players wanting inactive players to log out, so they can log in, will equally prevent someone else from logging in too.

To be the righteous and considerate person, some players ask others to be, they should not log in as well, thus enabling someone else to log in.

What if I am doing my homework while in game and am simply taking in the ambiance but not obviously interacting with anyone or doing content. I am at my keyboard then so am I still afk?

Some players are calling other players selfish, immature, and or childish. These same players claim they are on a moral high ground and say that adults are the mature ones and that anyone who is away from their input device while logged into FFXIV is a greedy disgusting existence.

Gandhi might not approve, but then again he doesn't judge people.

Those people that insult those who are logged in and absent are naught but bullies. In order to get what they want they pressure people and degrade them.

Those players being bullied are rather like placeholders. They keep the slot locked so the bullies can come and take it from them. By pressuring these people into logging out because, "they are being selfish", you are asking them to give up the slot they fought for so that you can obtain it without hassle.

In nature, to be courteous gets you eaten. Its a battle of resources. While I may be a prey animal, I won't let some predator threaten my quality of life.

[AdorraEloom]

Would be nice to be able to log in, I always log out when I'm not planning to play again for more than an hour, but I'm going to stay logged in next time I log in until they fix this problem, took the day off, cleaned my house, got some food ready, all good to go and play today with my free company, we had plans to do hard mode primals today, and I can't log in... Time is one thing money can not buy, and when it comes to gaming time is priceless to me. I should of went to work...Wasted one of my holiday days to watch 1017.....

Since their servers can't handle X amount of people, they should let us log in with our man accounts to any servers that has free spots so we can at least play and progress through the game on main characters, at least until this problem is fixed.