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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienWacKo View Post
    if you truly believe your statement, you are not to smart! NO eula can take your rights away, Eula's cannot overwrite a countries consumer laws. For instance here in the USA Eula's mean nothing, the laws trump what ever eula you sign. They are more for those countries that do not have such consumer protection laws. I'm not saying I agree with the OP just sayin your statement is completely false!

    Proof? Because I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameroth View Post
    jesus, are you like 12?

    have you purchased the game? have you played it for more than zero minutes? yes? then they have delivered exactly what is guaranteed to you. no where does their EULA state that you, personally, will have completely uninterrupted access. In fact, it actually states the opposite. and you agreed to those terms when you signed up.

    seriously, these threads about "ZOMG LAWSUIT" or "LEL CONTACT BBB" are so outrageously stupid.
    Your stupidity is so indescribable that i cant say no more for your lack of intelligence but that ignorance is not a bliss in your case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakent View Post
    Your stupidity is so indescribable that i cant say no more for your lack of intelligence but that ignorance is not a bliss in your case
    the butthurt is strong with this little one.

    rage harder. i bet it helps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameroth View Post
    the butthurt is strong with this little one.

    rage harder. i bet it helps...
    you do realize sometimes it isn't about being butthurt? It is about principles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienWacKo View Post
    you do realize sometimes it isn't about being butthurt? It is about principles!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/73680

    again. please read this thread before commencing said butthurt.

    tl;dr: there isn't enough server capacity for all of us yet. they did not anticipate such a large user-base because OB trials were incunclusive, and this is like one of the first MMOs to re-launch a 2nd time. it isn't just as cut-and-dry as "increase the queue or I'll go tell my daddy."

    principles aside, if you have played at all so far, you have been given exactly what Squenix promised you. that's it. any sensible organization or lawyer will laugh in your face if you tried to bring this to any type of legal hearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameroth View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/73680

    again. please read this thread before commencing said butthurt.

    tl;dr: there isn't enough server capacity for all of us yet. they did not anticipate such a large user-base because OB trials were incunclusive, and this is like one of the first MMOs to re-launch a 2nd time. it isn't just as cut-and-dry as "increase the queue or I'll go tell my daddy."

    principles aside, if you have played at all so far, you have been given exactly what Squenix promised you. that's it. any sensible organization or lawyer will laugh in your face if you tried to bring this to any type of legal hearing.
    those are just excuses for poor planning,

    your point of view about lawyers laughing in my face has nothing to do with me, I don't plan on suing just don't agree with your view point! My point is SE knew about these issues during beta 4 and could have started the process then instead of 1 day after early access. They had the numbers of preorder and knew to some degree what there player base would be at the start. They may have been inconclusive but if you work in the IT world like I do, you always build your infrastructure based on the worst case scenario then scale back from there after traffic studies have been done! IT infrastructure costs money yes, but that is the cost of providing adequate service! Honestly where I work, if we started a new server farm and had the problems SE is having right now, not only would I be fired but a few others that work for me or above would be too!
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    You can't see it right now, but I'm currently laughing very, very hard at you all.

    Law suits? Really? Exactly how are you going to word it in a way that any lawyer wouldn't just laugh you out of his/her office?

    I'm going to pose you a question now:
    -What is it that can be done to fix the problems with the servers?

    Really now. Really think about it.
    Use your brains, and really think long and hard.

    I'll give you a hint. Yohi himself has given the answer several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienWacKo View Post
    those are just excuses for poor planning,

    your point of view about lawyers laughing in my face has nothing to do with me, I don't plan on suing just don't agree with your view point! My point is SE knew about these issues during beta 4 and could have started the process then instead of 1 day after early access. They had the numbers of preorder and knew to some degree what there player base would be at the start. They may have been inconclusive but if you work in the IT world like I do, you always build your infrastructure based on the worst case scenario then scale back from there after traffic studies have been done! IT infrastructure costs money yes, but that is the cost of providing adequate service! Honestly where I work, if we started a new server farm and had the problems SE is having right now, not only would I be fired but a few others that work for me or above would be too!
    and you really don't understand how server architecture works, do you? they didn't have the gritty numbers until EA. Far less than enough time to physically build several machines, install and test software, and then deploy them. they weren't mind readers. they ran a conservative number based on the information they had at hand. all of the butt frustration on these forums could be explained as people who literally know nothing about deploying large-scale, enterprise sized server clusters to a world-wide market.

    and hammering the forums with threads about lawsuits and threats is just simply childish. once again: if you have played the game for more than zero minutes, squenix has delivered exactly what you agreed to when you signed up. grow up and deal with.

    better idea: go play outside
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    You can't see it right now, but I'm currently laughing very, very hard at you all.

    Law suits? Really? Exactly how are you going to word it in a way that any lawyer wouldn't just laugh you out of his/her office?

    I'm going to pose you a question now:
    -What is it that can be done to fix the problems with the servers?

    Really now. Really think about it.
    Use your brains, and really think long and hard.

    I'll give you a hint. Yohi himself has given the answer several times.
    Joke's on you for your lack of reading comprehension.

    Two key words, false advertising and windrawing none authorised payments
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    -What is it that can be done to fix the problems with the servers?

    .
    well one way to help the situation with the servers is having a AUTO AFK DISCONNECT feature built in. this would kick out all the players that AFK while at work or sleeping. Yes they do it because of the log in issues but it just compounds the problem for others. 2 wrongs don't make it right. They could also have a better queuing system, right not it seems that there server queues will only let about 100 or so wait in line before it decides to give the world is full error. Most other mmo's simply held you in the queue until there was a spot available even if you were number 200,001 in the queue! Those 2 features right there would make a lot of complainers content!
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