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  1. #161
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    Nura_Neko's Avatar
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    Nura Neko
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    Personally I love how the market board is set up in game. If people could by just one item on the board then it would end up like every other mmo where people just sit in the trading area, buy all their mats and craft to max level. With this system it encourages players, friends and free companies to help each other with mats. So far its doing its job wonderfully.
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  2. #162
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nura_Neko View Post
    If people could by just one item on the board then it would end up like every other mmo where people just sit in the trading area, buy all their mats and craft to max level.
    But people are already doing that. Except instead of trading area, it's the guild suppliers.

    With this system it encourages players, friends and free companies to help each other with mats.
    People where doing this just fine in 1.0 too. Just replace free companies with Linkshells and trading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nura_Neko View Post
    Guild suppliers only give the mats up to around lvl 20, after that you start needing items from other jobs and gathering. So pretty much they hand you the first 20 and then say, "Off you go, play with the other kids" XD
    You can still level off those more basic crafts. Long as you get experience.
    Also leves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    I hope you stop playing and delete your character. I have friends on Hyperion that I'd like to play with and they're short a healer because of people like you who are inexplicably sticking around on a game that they hate.
    Because hating one aspect means we hate the whole game.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 08-29-2013 at 04:13 PM.

  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    But people are already doing that. Except instead of trading area, it's the guild suppliers.
    Guild suppliers only give the mats up to around lvl 20, after that you start needing items from other jobs and gathering. So pretty much they hand you the first 20 and then say, "Off you go, play with the other kids" XD
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  4. #164
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    This system sucks. Period, stop trying to defend it.
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  5. #165
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    Blackada Law
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    It can be a problem having to buy more than you need, but what stops you putting the excess items back on the market? You might even be able to squeeze a profit out of it!
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  6. #166
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    Titania Basilikos
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    I don't go to the store in real life and buy 99 loaves of bread bundled together because they don't sell them individually. YOU'RE BREAKING MY IMMERSION.
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  7. #167
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    Airget Lamh
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    Botanist Lv 100
    The new market system helps balance the sales between those who are able to sell items in bulk and those that sell gear. Players can see gear as a more lucrative item to sell because when they use that one slot to sell to one person, the same thing is occurring with those that sell in bulk.

    As mentioned already if you were able to choose how many you want to buy you would end up in a situation where everyone would just 99 all 20 slots, 1980 of one item being sold.

    With the changes made now the player has to consider, should I just sell 1 of this, maybe 3, 6 or 9. You go by 1 then they can only sell 20/1980 of what they have at a given time. go by 3 you have 30, 6 is 60 and 9 is 90. As you can see the numbers in terms how much one can sell at once changes drastically by making this one simple change to the system and allows the market ward to be a more competitive business without alienating those who can't obtain as much as the other person.
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  8. #168
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    Zohno Reecho
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    If the seller wants to sell them only by stack I don't see why you should be able to buy singles.
    You don't open a pack of cookies because you just want to buy half of it. If the seller is not able to respond to the market demands it's his own problem.
    Read the market and act accordingly.
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  9. #169
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Tedious to sell, inconvenient to buy.

    If there are a dozen listings for 1x item, a single listing listing for 70x items, and I need 20x of a item, what do I do? I have to either buy items one at a time, listing by listing, or in huge surplus from a single listing. Buying 1x12 and waiting for more is ludicrous--I should be able to buy the difference from the larger stack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget
    With the changes made now the player has to consider, should I just sell 1 of this, maybe 3, 6 or 9. You go by 1 then they can only sell 20/1980 of what they have at a given time. go by 3 you have 30, 6 is 60 and 9 is 90. As you can see the numbers in terms how much one can sell at once changes drastically by making this one simple change to the system and allows the market ward to be a more competitive business without alienating those who can't obtain as much as the other person.
    Removing the option to buy piecemeal from larger stacks doesn't make the market more competitive. Sellers don't know how many items a buyer wants, so they sell them 1x or 2x at a time; this bloats the market with scads of listings that could otherwise be compressed as one or two listings. The wards have always been an undercut fest because some people are too stupid or too impatient to let economic forces give them the best profit for their goods. Whether players list 20 stacks of 99 or 1980 stacks of 1, it's going to be undercut after undercut--not thoughtful competition. So why inconvenience everybody?
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  10. #170
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    Sontawila Wila
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    As many I'm sure have mentioned, in 1.0 you can sell a stack as a whole (buyer cant specify a quantity) or you can sell items in an adjustable stack.
    Cant see why this is not carried over here.
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