The Last Word – Storm over Gridania

[Leowilde]

I really hope every time there is a major fix or event, the team creates a story to back it up or ties it into the overall storyline.

And I doubt you have anything to worry about. One can say much about this game, but they have added plenty of lore to every happening.

[Xmbei]

ya the other 3/4 of yoshida's post is stating "thank you for pointing out the map complaints we are working on it and starting with collision measures" so yes, it was mentioned in passing because he was thanking the japanese community bringing up the map layout problems, about how you have to detour around everything even over a 1 foot steep that blocks your way for 15 feet in either direction. Ya i get the "in passing".

On the statement of a new map,
1. yes they have all these numerous teams working on all these different kind of projects, A whole map redesign would take awhile, and if it comes I would forsee it in maybe an xpac or ps3 release, not in a monthly update.... that would be way to big of a file to have people download. Be realistic.
2. If they did they would probably use a similiar system that they did in the map design previously, of cookie cutter models that are touched up individually. Thats as the first team put out, to make the zones "bigger and quicker and easier to manage".
3. This is my personal request on new map changes... REDO THE WHOLE EORZEAN LAYOUT! >.>;;;; (this is going to go against a lot of my past 2 points and also nothing to do with them) I am really annoyed with the Eorzean map so far, biggest 2 main reasons, a) All 3 starting citys connected by ONE!!!!!!! straight road running from LL to Grid. with, b) Uldah, a starting city, the center of the current known world. The current Eorzean Jueno. c) the lack of pushing us to explore/adventure outside of 1 zone from l/r 1-50. I mean YAY!!!!! you mean I don't have to travel to new more exciting places to rank up in leve's or need except in the citys area.... Uldah example: you go farther out from 1-(20-24) then oh look I am right back north of uldah and BB at r30! oh look I am JUST south of drybone at r40! there is no need to do our job and adventure out. I miss the XI way of every 5-10 levels your in a new environment by necessity you go places, see the world. Now I just feel like its a confined world map not need to go anywhere like coerthas or mor dhona except for NM's, storyline, and "late game" sp partys killing raptor's in Coerthas. Before that there is really no reason to go there except for the exploration and leave, or finish a CS,and get teleport only camp aethers.

(lol sorry about the wall of text, wow didn't realize it was getting that long haha, gomen!!!)

[AdvancedWind]

I really hope every time there is a major fix or event, the team creates a story to back it up or ties it into the overall storyline.

EDIT: People are mostly connecting it to Gridania and the Black Shroud because sidequests in game keep speaking of rumors that Black Shroud will be the first place to be attacked by Garlean forces.

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not only the sidequests; the main storyline already has two quests dealing with garlean attacks on the black shroud, one of em including GIANT ROBOTS, because, you know, the chicks dig giant robots.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I don't understand people who say things like, "This probably wont come til PS3 release", maybe partly because of the time dedicated, but also for some other irrational reason I just cannot understand. Does this change make a PS3 user want to play when it's promised to them after they buy the game? Remember what happened the first time? Yeah. It makes absolutely no sense.

If anything, they will try to fix all aspects and drastically change the game before finalizing the PS3 client version. Not only will this make more sense technically, but also for future marketing.

If you hear one more person use the, "it will probably be held for the PS3 release", let it be known they probably suspect the least likely outcome of anyone.

[Xzen]

I don't understand people who say things like, "This probably wont come til PS3 release", maybe partly because of the time dedicated, but also for some other irrational reason I just cannot understand. Does this change make a PS3 user want to play when it's promised to them after they buy the game? Remember what happened the first time? Yeah. It makes absolutely no sense.

If anything, they will try to fix all aspects and drastically change the game before finalizing the PS3 client version. Not only will this make more sense technically, but also for future marketing.

If you hear one more person use the, "it will probably be held for the PS3 release", let it be known they probably suspect the least likely outcome of anyone.

You're right. They haven't even been working on the PS3 version for months now. They're trying to make a game that can survive. Once the game is complete and has plenty of content they might get a team back on the PS3 version.

[Xmbei]

I don't understand people who say things like, "This probably wont come til PS3 release", maybe partly because of the time dedicated, but also for some other irrational reason I just cannot understand. Does this change make a PS3 user want to play when it's promised to them after they buy the game? Remember what happened the first time? Yeah. It makes absolutely no sense.

If anything, they will try to fix all aspects and drastically change the game before finalizing the PS3 client version. Not only will this make more sense technically, but also for future marketing.

If you hear one more person use the, "it will probably be held for the PS3 release", let it be known they probably suspect the least likely outcome of anyone.

In my regards I mean it comes finalized on the ps3 released disc. Because it will be a big file and easier to update and rewrite from a disc then it is from a download. People don't like sitting for hours trying to download a patch after the already 3 hour downtime to apply it, because after the download they would also have to wait for the patch to install. So BIG major changes that have to come in one fell swoop and not in little updates overtime, would probably come in hardcopy form, such as ps3 release. That is why I stated that, it would just be less time consuming for the consumer and easier to distribute.

[Betelgeuzah]

In my regards I mean it comes finalized on the ps3 released disc. Because it will be a big file and easier to update and rewrite from a disc then it is from a download. People don't like sitting for hours trying to download a patch after the already 3 hour downtime to apply it, because after the download they would also have to wait for the patch to install. So BIG major changes that have to come in one fell swoop and not in little updates overtime, would probably come in hardcopy form, such as ps3 release. That is why I stated that, it would just be less time consuming for the consumer and easier to distribute.

I'm betting my scarf (already lost my hat) that they will make us download every new zone in the vanilla (the 5 unreleased regions + Ishgard). The download speeds of today make it easily possible.

[Chrees]

In my regards I mean it comes finalized on the ps3 released disc. Because it will be a big file and easier to update and rewrite from a disc then it is from a download. People don't like sitting for hours trying to download a patch after the already 3 hour downtime to apply it, because after the download they would also have to wait for the patch to install. So BIG major changes that have to come in one fell swoop and not in little updates overtime, would probably come in hardcopy form, such as ps3 release. That is why I stated that, it would just be less time consuming for the consumer and easier to distribute.

I hate to bring WoW into this thread, but if Blizzard can put out patches that are 1.5+ gigs, I don't see why SE can't do the same for FFXIV. Sure, it would be easier for the players to just be able to get them with the expansion, but can (and will) SE put out patches of that size? Absolutely.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

In my regards I mean it comes finalized on the ps3 released disc. Because it will be a big file and easier to update and rewrite from a disc then it is from a download. People don't like sitting for hours trying to download a patch after the already 3 hour downtime to apply it, because after the download they would also have to wait for the patch to install. So BIG major changes that have to come in one fell swoop and not in little updates overtime, would probably come in hardcopy form, such as ps3 release. That is why I stated that, it would just be less time consuming for the consumer and easier to distribute.

This is no different than releasing it on PC than applying it to the PS3 version for it's release. Remember, they have been working hard to keep PC users too. It is incredibly ignorant to think that they are more concerned with their potential PS3 base than the PC users who are already hanging on by a thread.

[Reika]

I hate to bring WoW into this thread, but if Blizzard can put out patches that are 1.5+ gigs, I don't see why SE can't do the same for FFXIV. Sure, it would be easier for the players to just be able to get them with the expansion, but can (and will) SE put out patches of that size? Absolutely.

Well WoW doesnt exactly update twice a month. they tend to wait until they have a mess load of crap to put out before they do it. If we were to wait 3 or 4 months for content patches they would be bigger. cept not many of us want to wait 3 or 4 months for one patch, better to have 1 a month.