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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelgianRofl View Post
    Whenever someone walks in on me playing FFXIV, and let's say I'm Crafting or Gathering, and this person starts watching the screen, I get this feeling of judgement. They're looking at the screen watching me select synthesis options and watching the incredibly slow and uninteresting animations on repeat. I become embarrassed knowing that they may be thinking, "This guy sits in a chair doing this in is free time?"

    To spare myself the embarrassment, I normally time my crafting for when my girlfriend jumps in the shower. When she's done, I'd then switch to something else as to avoid judgement.

    The truth of the matter is, FFXIV was originally intended to be a pay to play game. With Gathering and Crafting classes intended to be as center-stage as any battle class, I'd say Tanaka was out of his mind to think that people would pay to play the Crafting and Gathering mini-games.

    I think an incredible solution to solving the problem of player-embarrassment and FFXIV's lackluster profits, the Crafting and Gathering games need to be spiced up. The mini games should be visual puzzles that induce thought and strategy - a different puzzle for each kind of tool used. This way each job feels different from the next.

    Also, because of the emphasis on crafting and gathering, it shouldn't take longer to level a craft to 50 than a normal job - remember, the ultimate goal is to create a game that people want to pay a monthly subscription to play.

    Or... another solution is to totally deemphasize crafting. Remove the mini-game altogether. Make each synthesis pass or fail, and focus on the battle system instead - making it one where players wouldn't mind spending a good portion of their free time for years to come.

    Square-Enix's Net worth has dropped 33.0808081% since September 27th. You want to make money? If you want people to rebuild Square-Enix's net worth, and if you want Crafting & Gathering classes to be as upfront and important as any other class, they need to be fun and awesome.

    As it stands now, I challenge any of the developers to level a craft or gathering skill to rank 30 in their free time.



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    -BR
    People don't pay JUST to play crafting and mini games, but it is part of the content of the game. The crafting games are a bit tedious, and I do wish that they were more advanced, but the system is fun to play with. Also, becoming a quality crafter actually should take more time to master than becoming a battle master. It's way easier to learn how to destroy things than it is to learn how to build things and build them well. A four year old with a hammer can destroy a television, but I doubt I could repair one without electrocuting myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Looks like Belgian can't even take his own advice when he said he was never coming back. Why should we listen to him now when he can't even stand by his own rantings?

    Sorry to say I glazed over your entire post because I think you fail for not even being able to stand by your own word.
    I agree with you. If he can't stand by his own word, why should we listen to him?
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    WOW! BELGIAN! Belgian. belgian...
    ROFL and not referring to your name(seriously I would be but I don't want to wake up my fiance leaving her with the "He lost his mind call the cops face").

    It's amazing how fast you blow through those single player games right? When you first buy them you feel like nothing can pull you away...Then you see those credits roll with a bunch of names you probably will never remember. I honestly only glanced at your post but it's official all your credibility is gone. You talked like a man with so many principles, conviction, and just someone that stood by his own words of "wisdom"(not that I believed most of the bs anyway).

    You should have at least came back and posted once patch 1.18 is live. At least that is suppose to be our first major patch which would have been understandable if you were convinced to come back.

    On Topic:
    You care about how you think people are judging you play a video game? When you see your friends play BLOPS do you give them the same judging stare(in the end who cares?)? lmao you also hide it from your GF and wait until she goes into the bathroom? So she judges you for crafting in a game but not judge you JUST for playing a game instead of giving her your undivided attention? It's not like you are playing Happy Unicorn: Garden of the Cute and Cuddly.

    Seriously though most woman either...

    1)Want undivided attention and get pissed when you give some to ANYTHING else.

    2)Won't bother you as long as you still show her some love when she gives out hints(fellas you know what these are).

    3)Will join whatever it is your doing just to be with you.

    I might be missing something(maybe?) but that's just the top 3 off of my head at 4am lol...

    TL;DR

    Belgian stop the BS. You just beat your SP games, you were just unbanned, maybe mad because psn is down, or simply missed trolling these forums.
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    Belgianlol is back, and the effects are already clear :X too much single games ?
    btw 1): if you feel embarrassed playing a game someone other don't play, you have a problem, not the game.
    2) you can't feel embarrassed playing FFXIV. Because you DON'T PLAY FFXIV.
    that's all '-'
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    Take two trolls. Make the first troll the second. The second will troll back. So will do the first.
    Perpetual motion achieved!

    That said, the crafting is mind-numbingly boring, but its full of craftbotters anyway, so no big deal. Me and my friends still wonder how someone can level a craft up to 50 and stay sane, though.
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    Lmao! Gotta love threads like this, half the people say "sure you got a point" the other half "Troll BURN HIM!!!!"
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    It's like the Middle Ages all over again...
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    well my gf used to be hardcore wow player so JOKES ON HER! haha but anyway, idk what its like in other countries but most people in the Uk spend their time watching stupid shows like corrination street or emmerdale, so they're forbidden to past judgement!
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    Oh, belgian, looks like the most amazing portal 2 ultimately failed to hold your attention long enough? What happened to "april 19th?"
    Were you embarassed being seen playing it?

    But don't worry. We all know that no judgement is being passed. We all know that there's no real embarassment behind this post, since it's credibility is pretty much akin to sensationalistic and hyperbolic jibberjabber like "april 19th" and the supposed ebay sales coming with it.

    In no game crafting is for everyone. It's that simple. Actually in FFXIV crafting is less boring than in 99.9% of other MMORPGs I played, where not only grinding any craft requires to perform repeatitive actions, but awareness is not required or encouraged at all, as one simply presses a single button and prays (or presses that single button and doesn't care, as he did that a million time, and he knows he'll have to do the same thing another million anyway), over and over and over.

    FFXIV's crafting is quite deeper than that, and works well. Is it for everyone? No.
    But again, in no game crafting is for everyone, and it shouldn't be, otherwise there wouldn't be a market.

    Luckily for me, my girlfriend crafts quite a lot more than I do, and she isn't embarassed at all of me seeing her doing just that.


    But of course you aren't as well.
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    Of course, the synthesis and gathering mini-games would benefit a lot to become more puzzle-like. However, making them more complex may increase the time of synthesis and gathering, which can in turn be balanced by awarding more SP/EXP (it would also reduce the surplus of materials people are getting and throwing away, giving them value to put on the market instead).

    BUT
    , if I have to chose between not having synthesis/gathering mini-games and what we currently have, I much prefer what we currently have over no mini-games at all (like FFXI).
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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