Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[Ichi]

they should give the seller the option to sell the full stack or individuals out of the full stack. IDT the buyer should be able to pick apart at someones stacks if they intended to sell it in bulk. Not sure if this has been proposed but I'm adding my approval.

[dhodgie]

That's not an option in you think about it. If you allow to people sell/buy stacks as pack or a split of it when it's on the market, then people will only buy items from the lowest price/item in the market...

I think is fun how some people want the 1.0 without even waiting to see if this one turns out to be better. Restrictions are good...

Never truly played 1.0, anyhow I don't see how undercutting the market in one big stack or gouging with a stack of individually selected amounts is any different from each other. Just because your market post is further down the list doesn't mean I wont look for it, it just means if I need 17 of "x" I probably wouldn't buy your bundle of 100 (but what would you do in that situation?). So having the option to peck at stacks (that you're able to peck at) is going to be a better thing down the road instead of returning 300 pages of items in stacks of 1s.

[Bethor]

I have to agree with my former posters. Both sides have good arguments. These problems probably occure for Legacy Players/Servers. The new players don't have much crafting klasses levelled. Once they start up there will be much more single sold items.

It is just inconvienient because at the time of the beta you wanted to grind a level craft and couldn't do so, because there were only full stacks Wait for the economy to grow properly and you will have enough options to choose from

Just my 2 cents

[Amaretto08]

they should give the seller the option to sell the full stack or individuals out of the full stack. IDT the buyer should be able to pick apart at someones stacks if they intended to sell it in bulk. Not sure if this has been proposed but I'm adding my approval.

Yes, exactly. What Ichi describes is how it was before. Seller could post a stack, but set it individually priced for buyers who didn't want the whole bunch or sellers could also designate a full unit price which would designate the sale of the whole unit (stack). As a crafter and gatherer I used both methods when buying and selling because that was just how FFXIV worked. A few things went fast as a stack and most things just went faster piecemeal. Generally though, unless it was a super hot mat, you never wanted to sell it as a unit. What we have now is only half functional.

[Dre]

The market will dictate what the sellers do. If they can't move a stack of X items, they will list them as singles. If people will buy a stack whole, then people will continue to sell it that way.

[Felindras]

Yes, exactly. What Ichi describes is how it was before. Seller could post a stack, but set it individually priced for buyers who didn't want the whole bunch or sellers could also designate a full unit price which would designate the sale of the whole unit (stack). As a crafter and gatherer I used both methods when buying and selling because that was just how FFXIV worked. A few things went fast as a stack and most things just went faster piecemeal. Generally though, unless it was a super hot mat, you never wanted to sell it as a unit. What we have now is only half functional.

This is how I feel also, the simple fact is that trying to break things apart and sell individually is problematic because you can only post x amount and inventory space is indeed limited. Both singles and stacks should be able to be denoted for a single auction.

[catarina]

I am pretty sure Square Enix did this to ensure that no one can corner a market.

During v1.0, it was very easy to buy out smaller stack sellers, and then re-selling them in bulk at a higher price for which you are the only offer. This became easier as you make more gil and it became more profitable as item supply decreased (for example, shards/crystals consumed in crafting, not enough players spent time farming them, you keep buying them up, and one can sell at very high price)

In normal markets (and in real-life trading) this is called creating a floor/defending the price, usually its very hard (especially in real life) because you don't have enough money to create a monopoly. But in a declining player base environment, this was possible, and made easier as smaller buy orders have no way of competing with your large sell orders...

[catarina]

For example, I remember for a 3 month period I was the monopoly on Wind Shards on my server. I made ~50mn gil this way, and the more girl i made, the more item markets I could dominate and make more in. It became very profitable but unfair to smaller buyers who has to buy at a higher price in smaller portions.

By making stacks unalterable, v2.0 will make this much more difficult to do with scale, b/c now poorer players cannot buy from your bulk, and rich players will want to think twice before taking the risk of buying out large stacks (say, 9,999 crystals) because now they can only unload them slowly and thus take more price risk... or sell in large bulk to other rich players who are probably more sophisticated.

Good to know Square Enix figured this and now bastards like me have to make gil as it is meant to be made. I wish them the best in managing the economy better this time with ARR.

[Jinko]

As I said in my previous post;
People are just too spoiled, they want their cake and eat it too.

If you get the exact amount of mats/items you need/want, you will just have to pay a little extra.

No I won't, I have all three gathering classes and all battle classes at 50, I am self sufficient, but I would still like the convenience to buy (AND SELL) single items from stacks like in 1.0.

Get over yourself, thinking you are all superior to the rest of us "so called lazy" players.

[catarina]

more selfish-note, those of you with tons of 9,999 stacks of shards / crystals, msg me if you are interested in selling for for 5 gil / 10 gil unit prices! You know you aren't gonna sell them easy now that there is this stack restriction