Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[ogopogo]

I don't understand why they don't just give the seller a checkbox where they can select whether they want to sell their stack in bulk or not. This way there will be less clutter on the market board and still allow seller to maintain the same level of control.

[ValeTudo]

I may be in the minority here, but I like the fact that you can put items up as a stack or single item. It's how it should be imo; hey you really need that one single astral rock it's going to cost you X, now say if you want to buy 20 from me, I'm really looking to unload these quickly, I'll cut you a deal and sell them for X. It's how any economy works, and it's actually how I've see most trade channel/general channel "for sales" in most games. I really don't want t see it changed.

Splitting stacks is easy, the only side note to me liking this way better is that the selling interface (which I actually haven't tried out yet) would have to be pretty user friendly; ie not anything like 1.xx, no 1,000 menus to sell one item, maybe auto-fill price per last listing, etc.

[Alron]

100% for this idea.

[Wellz]

...hey you really need that one single astral rock it's going to cost you X, now say if you want to buy 20 from me, I'm really looking to unload these quickly, I'll cut you a deal and sell them for X. It's how any economy works, and it's actually how I've see most trade channel/general channel "for sales" in most games. I really don't want t see it changed.

This person gets it, that is how economy works in general, not just mmorpgs, you purchase something in bulk, to get a discount, oh, I see, so you don't want to deal with all of those extra items... then pay for the convenience of JUST having EXACTLY how many you want/need.
The problem is, the buyers just want their cake and eat it too.

PS. you are not minority here, at least I would hope not, as what you said is plain common sense.

[Valente]

That sounds great, now give me the option. If I want to put up 99 apples for sale at 5 gil a piece, I should be able to. If someone else wants to sell 99 apples for 300 gil for the batch, they should be able to.

Having to place up 1 apple for sale at 5 gil each, 20 times, that's not elegant, intuitive, friendly, or productive.

[Deatheye]

I think a few people misunderstand this.

The Idea (at least how I understand it and what I want) is not that the seller has no way to sell a complete stack. But we want the Option as seller to decide if people can only buy the full stack or single pieces.
I wasn't able to finde a way to put up a stack and let the buyers just buy the amount they want.
In v1 this was possible. I could define as the seller if buyers only can buy the hole stack or single pieces.
The only way right now seems to be to put up single pieces which means I loose one of my selling Slots for one item. It would make much more sense to be able to put 99 Items up for sale and activate an Option that allows buyers to buy the amount of items they want from the stack.
They Idea is not to force every seller to do this, but to have an Option to decide, as the seller, if you want to only sell the hole stack or let buyers choose the amount of Items they want.



I really don't see how a seller can be against this.

In case we just didn't notice how to do this and it's somehow implemented please tell us how. Cause it seems like some are saying it is allready possible... If so how the hell didn't I notice this.. cause it was the first sing I missed...

[Jinko]

I really don't see how a seller can be against this.

In case we just didn't notice how to do this and it's somehow implemented please tell us how. Cause it seems like some are saying it is allready possible... If so how the hell didn't I notice this.. cause it was the first sing I missed...

People are against it because they can't price gouge for single items if everyone is doing the same, sad but true.

The problem is, the buyers just want their cake and eat it too.

It actually sounds like the opposite to me, I consider myself a seller more than a buyer, that doesn't mean to say I want to spend 60 minutes every day managing my sales.

[Deatheye]

People are against it because they can't price gouge for single items if everyone is doing the same, sad but true.

Not sure I get this. If you only can sell as a stack the undercutting will exist anyway.
If you mean that you can't sell single items for more (per piece) compared to a 99 stack, I actually did that in v1. Sometimes I bought full stacks, What I didn't Need I put up again with the Option to buy single pieces. I made some Gil with that...

As a Producer I did put up full stacks that only could be bought as a stack and some stacks that people could buy single pieces. Same there, I gave the full stack cheaper per Piece then the single ones. Booth cases I sold my stuff.

Every other MMORPG I played that has an Option to sell stacks or single pieces had a Price difference on the market depending on how big the stack was. Bigger stacks did cost less per Piece.

And how this should stop RMT... no Idea they propably have there multible accounts running all at the same time with bots doing everything automatically anyway... So they are the ones that don't care for mindless boring stuff, they don't actually do it themself...

It goes back to previous posts about selling stacks for a discount, which to me equates to selling single items as a premium because 1) it takes up more space and 2) it takes more time to mange your inventory and put them up..

Both of which are negated if you could sell pieces from a stack like in 1.0.

And the bad Thing about this would be?
It seems like a lot of people just wouldn't put up single pieces with the System we have right now. I definitly wouldn't do it. Why should I put up 20 single Items using up my 20 Slots If I could put much more stuff on the market selling full stacks? I'm not really interested in sitting in front of the retainer bell to put up a new item if one is sold.
Which brings me back to RMT bots that would have no Problem with that... There bots do it for them.
So you only punish normal Players while you make the bot users even more happier cause no normal Player will put up with this...

And if some people are willing to do this I guess they would put the prieces pretty high... So why shouldn't everyone just buy full stacks, user the one Item they Need and put the rest of the stack up for sale again?

I think I Need some sleep. Maybe tomorrow I get it... Right now I just see downsides of not having the Option to let people buy single pieces...

[Jinko]

Not sure I get this. If you only can sell as a stack the undercutting will exist anyway.
If you mean that you can't sell single items for more (per piece) compared to a 99 stack, I actually did that in v1. Sometimes I bought full stacks, What I didn't Need I put up again with the Option to buy single pieces. I made some Gil with that...

It goes back to previous posts about selling stacks for a discount, which to me equates to selling single items as a premium because 1) it takes up more space and 2) it takes more time to mange your inventory and put them up..

Both of which are negated if you could sell pieces from a stack like in 1.0.

[BloodLotus]

I like how this is the only thread that is in this section. Even with the number of views and replies no one else seems to have any other issues with the system than this.

I know I don't.