Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

Why can the winner not get the hair? Are they refusing to do the content or buy it off the market board?

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Why shouldn't the hairstyle's creator be given the hairstyle through the mail by the GMs, regardless of how difficult or not it is to obtain?

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

Why shouldn't the hairstyle's creator be given the hairstyle through the mail by the GMs, regardless of how difficult or not it is to obtain?

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That isn't even mentioned in my reply or what I replied to. It's said they cannot get the hair. What is preventing them from doing so? Why can seemingly every other player get the hair except for them?

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

But the question is "why are some of you so entitled?".

It's a videogame. You're buying the content. You aren't directly buying all of the possible rewards.

When devs try to people please by making everything for everyone, they end up making too many compromises and making everything for no one. If you want the rewards, do the content that offers the rewards. If you don't want to do the content, you don't get the rewards. In this case, the marketboard is an alternate avenue to the rewards for people who don't want to do the content so I really don't understand what the fuss is about.

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Finally someone said it more eloquently than I can.

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

But that's exactly what's happening here, casuals got nothing while hardcore gets everything, and the moment the casuals asked for even a tiny crumb (a hairstyle from a contest where even the winner can't get the hair) they're immediately called entitled brats and told to go back and starve in the corner.

The OP came right out the gate swinging, wanting to make it casual vs. hardcore right away, so it's a bit disingenuous for you or anyone else to be yelling "hey, no hitting back!" when they literally started it.

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No developer team in the world can churn out quality "casual" content (i.e. easy to clear on first attempt) fast enough for the "one and done" crowd to be satisfied. And if there is some some kind of grind to increase the longevity a bit, then all the "I am a single dad of 6 kids working 85 hours a week" come out again. And if there is low dropchance, there will be complaints about it "never dropping".
Maybe, just maybe, only ever playing the easiest of the easiest content this game has to offer while ignoring practically every experience the devs cobble together, is at a certain part more the fault of the customer. If you buy a ticket to a theme park and then spend all your time at one fast food stand, that is your prerogative. But complaining about how there isn't anything to do but eating food at that fast food stand, because you don't like rides, don't want to see any parks, are scared of ghosts and loud noises, hate crowds and watching shows ... well, maybe it's about time to start learning how to manage one's own expectations.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

And you're okay with this? What you're describing is a job.

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If it weren't for rewards, there would be an abundance of people that would refuse to do the content because they aren't getting anything in return. It's a big reason why a majority of content dies out fast, people get their rewards as quick as they can so they never have to do it again, there's no reason to for them, especially when the game is aimed towards casuals and something like a hairstyle can be earned in high end content like this.

Nowhere in my comment did I say "I'm okay with something like hairstyles being behind high end content", I'm simply pointing out something that should be common sense by now.

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Originally Posted by AllenThyl

No developer team in the world can churn out quality "casual" content (i.e. easy to clear on first attempt) fast enough for the "one and done" crowd to be satisfied.

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How detached from reality do you need to be to think that the casual and midcore community want one-and-done content, when a massive part of the uproar they are making is exactly that all they have been getting is some one-and-done stuff rather than anything grindable with longevity?

How do I even argue with you when the very premise under your argument is a failure to understand what the group you disparage even wants, to begin with?

EDIT: Let me add to that; How are so many people in this thread claiming that the casuals just want every reward dumped into their inventories without doing anything for it, while at the same time this entire forum is aflame with threads from casual players wanting to play content and there not being any for them? This is utter cognitive dissonance.

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Originally Posted by Eyrilona

EDIT: Let me add to that; How are so many people in this thread claiming that the casuals just want every reward dumped into their inventories without doing anything for it, while at the same time this entire forum is aflame with threads from casual players wanting to play content and there not being any for them? This is utter cognitive dissonance.

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I'll claim it. People would legitimately complain less if the reward were put on the mogstation for $5 instead of something you actually have to play the game for. In fact, they DID put exclusive hair on the mogstore for $5 and there was barely even a grumble about it. People's priorities and expectations are broken.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

I'll claim it. People would legitimately complain less if the reward were put on the mogstation for $5 instead of something you actually have to play the game for. In fact, they DID put exclusive hair on the mogstore for $5 and there was barely even a grumble about it. People's priorities and expectations are broken.

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Dude just hit the nail on the head. People are more okay with a hairstyle requiring a real money payment in a premium subscription game than coming from non-casual content.

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Originally Posted by Eyrilona

How detached from reality do you need to be to think that the casual and midcore community want one-and-done content, when a massive part of the uproar they are making is exactly that all they have been getting is some one-and-done stuff rather than anything grindable with longevity?

How do I even argue with you when the very premise under your argument is a failure to understand what the group you disparage even wants, to begin with?

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Then what's the problem? You already done with all the other "causal" / "midcore" grinds this game has to offer?

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

Dude just hit the nail on the head. People are more okay with a hairstyle requiring a real money payment in a premium subscription game than coming from non-casual content.

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Exactly the same story with the axolotl from P12.

Cute mount in the cash shop: I sleep.
Cute mount in savage: Real shit.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

You can spend a bit of Gil on gear on the early stages of the patch tbh. You can expect to see prices between 15-20M, and this isn't including world prog players that usually buy an Ornate piece with Wondrous Tales either, which is quite a lot on its own. But I think the notion that casual players don't really have a spending outlet is the most ridiculous notion you can probably have, there's several directly high costing mounts, and then between cosmetics and any additional minions or mounts a player may buy, it really stacks up. I'm a casual but I can quite easily spend 100-200M per major patch.

A lot of hardcore crafting statics that do week 1 usually actually rely on external crafters to the static, it's a very common practice, as the gear is not really needed for most until the third turn, so it allows for prog whilst crafters are churning away. Some statics will organize a handful of crafters, and some others may turn around and say it's the individual members' responsibility to ensure they find a crafter. The amount of strays I find on the first day or two is a lot.

I think generally people underestimate just how expensive it can be if you collect mounts/minions/cosmetics. But frankly, the whole reception and generally how dismissive people have been on this unironically makes me wish the OG concealed/favor nodes would return, because you know, apparently too much in this game is handed off as a freebie, and apparently casual players have very little reason at all to purchase this gear.

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I guess if you are a day one raider sure...but I feel most raiders are not day one/world prog raiders. I never buy gear myself, I prefer to use my BiS gear over spending mils on gear that just going to be replaced in a few weeks. Also, I feel a lot of those types of raiders also have ppl who make their gear for them as well just like pots and food. I just don't think raiders are spending every single gil they have on raid food, pots, and gear.

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Presumably they couldn't clear the content (and of course no one is going to just carry them), and I can only guess the marketboard price is still incredibly high for their budget or the idea of spending millions for a hairstyle they helped to make rubs them the wrong way when they would have preferred getting it in content they actually engage with.

And while this part is just vicious rumor and I've seen no evidence for it beyond people trying to make things sound worst (so even I don't believe it), some have tried to claim the contest winner has expressed regret now on entering said contest and doesn't plan to do so again, though I'm not even sure if the rules allow for someone to enter and win multiple times anyway.

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If this were any random player the topic would start and end with "skill issue." This person won, and got their hair design in the game -- which is what the contest was for to start with.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

I'll claim it. People would legitimately complain less if the reward were put on the mogstation for $5 instead of something you actually have to play the game for. In fact, they DID put exclusive hair on the mogstore for $5 and there was barely even a grumble about it. People's priorities and expectations are broken.

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People complain about things being put there all the time. Are you selectively blind? Every time something new comes out, people complain. People complained graha's hair is separate from the clothing, even. Barely a grumble? Just because you (whether intentionally or not) fail to notice something doesn't mean it's even there. People complain less about the mogstore now because it's old news. The hairstyle in a Chaotic raid is new news. So of course people are being louder about it. That is literally how news works.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

I guess if you are a day one raider sure...but I feel most raiders are not day one/world prog raiders. I never buy gear myself, I prefer to use my BiS gear over spending mils on gear that just going to be replaced in a few weeks. Also, I feel a lot of those types of raiders also have ppl who make their gear for them as well just like pots and food. I just don't think raiders are spending every single gil they have on raid food, pots, and gear.

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Most are not, and even most that pay premium end up not needing it until after the price has already crashed. A lot will do it simply because they feel it’s the cool thing to do.

Most raiders aren’t spending every dime of their Gil I do agree with. Contrary to what people might think raiders have quite a lot of outlets for making Gil. Some methods are just not necessarily widely encouraged by SE.

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Presumably they couldn't clear the content (and of course no one is going to just carry them), and I can only guess the marketboard price is still incredibly high for their budget or the idea of spending millions for a hairstyle they helped to make rubs them the wrong way when they would have preferred getting it in content they actually engage with.

And while this part is just vicious rumor and I've seen no evidence for it beyond people trying to make things sound worst (so even I don't believe it), some have tried to claim the contest winner has expressed regret now on entering said contest and doesn't plan to do so again, though I'm not even sure if the rules allow for someone to enter and win multiple times anyway.

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Here is the page I could find: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...86c364efc07a2/
I can't see where it says "the winner will also get it for free". The reward for participation was the earring, no? Again, managing expectations is a skill that needs to be learned and exercised, otherwise people will be in for a hard and unpleasant ride through life.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Most are not, and even most that pay premium end up not necessarily actually making use out of it until after the price has already crashed. A lot will do it simply because they feel it’s the cool thing to do.

Most raiders aren’t spending every dime of their Gil I do agree with. Contrary to what people might think raiders have quite a lot of outlets for making Gil. Some methods are just not necessarily widely encouraged by SE.

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Most people "pay premium and not end up necessarily making use out of it" because people are constantly told to get the best gear possible as soon as possible, whether they plan or even have an interest in raiding or not.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

We already have that in the Golden Saucer, where you need to dish out MGP to get hairstyles, this is even more accessible since all you need to do is get the Gil to get it. This is additional customization you get from PLAYING the game. I just don't see the difference, honestly.

To me it's kind of insane that you guys are complaining about not being able to get it, you can get it, just do the content, or pay for it with your Gil.

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Here's the thing tho...when something is added to Golden Saucer ppl know it will always be there to get. So they can grind the MGP over the course of months or years and get the item. With this new 24-man and content like this, it has a shelf life and if history has told us anything its shelf is probably just a few months before PF becomes a wasteland for it. Sure Discord server will keep it alive on life support but you probably be lucky to get just a few clears a week of since it requires 24 ppl to run it. When the fight does go on life support this means there be fewer rewards being pushed onto the MB to buy and that also means the price will skyrocket to outrageous amounts of gil(since you know how suppy and demand works, less of a high demand item means the highest price.) Btw reason I bring up the few clears week is bc after most of the community gets their first-time clears, the amount of clears even buying the hairstyle from the vendors goes up to around 46 clears each...The only reason the MB is filled with the hair now is because the content is new and ppl are still getting the first-time bonus. When that bonus goes away, I bet you see a lot fewer hairstyles on the MB.

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Here's the thing tho...when something is added to Golden Saucer ppl know it will always be there to get. So they can grind the MGP over the course of months or years and get the item. With this new 24-man and content like this, it has a shelf life and if history has told us anything its shelf is probably just a few months before PF becomes a wasteland for it.

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Exactly. When the prices would constantly drop to a manageable level and the market board would have enough hairstyles for everyone I think the complains would be less.

I am monitoring the prices on the EU data center and they dropped from 25 mio to 12-15 mio and for a few days the prices are already rising again and are now at 18 mio. The content is already dying out.

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Originally Posted by AllenThyl

Then what's the problem? You already done with all the other "causal" / "midcore" grinds this game has to offer?

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If by that you mean having done Deep Dungeons and Eureka and Bozja, grinded relic weapons in ARR, HW, SB, ShB and EW, done every last yellow quest across every zone, completed the sightseeing log for every expansion, having from scratch upgraded my own latest pentamelded BiS crafter gear (and the matching gatherer set) with the release of 7.1, unlocked every dungeon and raid below savage, checked all the boxes to keep my Trade and Combat mentor flag after the DT updates, maxed out every allied society in every expansion, capped every job in the game to 100, found every path through every Variant Dungeon without looking up solutions, and bought every unique reward from the PvP vendors and the Gold Saucer worth having, and capped out Island Sanctuary and Doman Restoration and Ishgardian Restoration (when that was still a thing happening), and run Treasure Maps hundreds upon hundreds of times?

Yeah.. done or good as done actually. I still have Reaper at only 95 I think and Picto at 90 because I have been sleeping on them, and I still need to do the jump puzzle in Tuliyollal for the last sightseeing point of DT, but other than that I'm pretty much done with what's not high-end raiding.

The only content I am aware of that I still need to chase to completion or near completion, is catching every Big Fish.

I play every single area of content you can play in this game that isn't current high end raids, and I am literally through all of it or as good as -- and on most counts, was so before Dawntrail even dropped. I even own the darn mount that costs 50,000 bicolor gemstones, as well as every mount they ever put in a Treasure Maps dungeon.

And I still had time on the side to build up a well stocked selection of glams, perform and coordinate bard concerts, and go clubbing too.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

My answer is yes. I’m complaining now the reward structure of CAR is shit with the hair, it’s gonna be even more shit without it because as you say the entire reward structure is flawed down to the core

This isn’t to say I support “well if it’s all a mess then why make the hair a CAR reward” as like I said I have no particular attachment to it as a CAR reward I just don’t like the idea of people who refuse to do CAR AND refuse to interact with the economy to get it

I fully believe that the hairstyle won’t save CAR and that the reward structure of the entire game is flawed. But as it stands if you won’t do CAR AND you won’t go get the money you really can’t claim you deserve the hair

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I know we don't see eye to eye on this topic but I do understand where you coming from. Im also don't think ppl should be just given the hairstyle. That said I also don't want the only two ways to get it is "Do content that is a nightmare in PF and will die in few months or pay outrageous amounts of gil that will break your gil bank." I personally wish they added the hairstyle to more casual to mid-core friendly content, like something you can grind for on your own without having to interact with the MB. Like yeah, I can buy the hairstyle but if I did I would be completely broke and also it wouldnt feel good bc I didn't earn it. Im going to do CODCAR but Im afraid with my schedule and how PF is, I won't be able to clear it enough times before the content dies to even buy it from the vendor. You see my issue with it being in CAR now? No I don't want it to be a handout but I don't want to be locked into some content that is huge pain to clear in PF either. I rather it is in the next eurake-style area in a gacha box than where it is now or even in maps.

A hairstyle isn’t something that they ever add into ex/savage+ content (CMIIW) so the decision from first place already looks odd to me. Yet at the same time I don’t know what would they add to incentivize replays more.

Hey, who knows maybe they’ll add male highlander’s eyebrows on next CAR lmfao.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

A hairstyle isn’t something that they ever add into ex/savage+ content (CMIIW) so the decision from first place already looks odd to me. Yet at the same time I don’t know what would they add to incentivize replays more.

Hey, who knows maybe they’ll add male highlander’s eyebrows on next CAR lmfao.

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I'm sure they could go to the well of bright ideas (TM) they've had before. Like 300 FL wins for an undyeable coat.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Yet at the same time I don’t know what would they add to incentivize replays more.

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Hrothgar hats.

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Originally Posted by Tint

Exactly. When the prices would constantly drop to a manageable level and the market board would have enough hairstyles for everyone I think the complains would be less.

I am monitoring the prices on the EU data center and they dropped from 25 mio to 12-15 mio and for a few days the prices are already rising again and are now at 18 mio. The content is already dying out.

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https://i.imgur.com/C9SewQq.png

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

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The graph going down at the end is an outlier. Someone forgot a decimal and sold it for 2 mio instead of 20. The prices are constantly rising since the night between the 30th and 31st. Maybe they will drop again at the weekend, but long term I don't think they will go down until the moogle tome event in two years floods the market board with the hairstyle.

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Originally Posted by Tint

The graph going down at the end is an outlier. Someone forgot a decimal and sold it for 2 mio instead of 20. The prices are constantly rising since the night between the 30th and 31st. Maybe they will drop again at the weekend, but long term I don't think they will go down until the moogle tome event in two years floods the market board with the hairstyle.

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Agreed, as time pass I think the hair will jump back between 50 to 100 mill till they add it to the Moogle event. Sucks for those players who start playing till then tho since they wont have a chance to get the hair...that my whole point about it being in content like CAR. If only it was added to maps or something more casual to mid-core so it would stay around longer and give ppl more of a chance to earn it.

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Originally Posted by Tint

The graph going down at the end is an outlier. Someone forgot a decimal and sold it for 2 mio instead of 20. The prices are constantly rising since the night between the 30th and 31st. Maybe they will drop again at the weekend, but long term I don't think they will go down until the moogle tome event in two years floods the market board with the hairstyle.

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https://i.imgur.com/BQH6nO0.png

That's 12m, not 2m, and the last 3 were sold at that price.

Catering rewards to potential future players is pointless and near impossible anyway

Like why can’t I log onto RuneScape right now and go “why can’t I have a party hat?” I mean they were worthless when they dropped in 2001 and now they are the most valuable items in the game

Should every person be given the option of being given a partyhat because not everyone was around in 2001? Or should if you want something but joined later than it was at its most accessible point you pay what it’s being sold for

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Catering rewards to potential future players is pointless and near impossible anyway

Like why can’t I log onto RuneScape right now and go “why can’t I have a party hat?” I mean they were worthless when they dropped in 2001 and now they are the most valuable items in the game

Should every person be given the option of being given a partyhat because not everyone was around in 2001? Or should if you want something but joined later than it was at its most accessible point you pay what it’s being sold for

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You should already know why RuneScape is a bad example to use when comparing it to FFXIV. There are only a few examples where content in XIV is designed long term. Comparatively practically everything in RuneScape is designed for Long Term functionality, and even a lot of the content in RuneScape has a high amount of solo activity in it which lends itself to the design they’ve opted for.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

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That's 12m, not 2m, and the last 3 were sold at that price.

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Is that even from the EU data center then? I also think the graph shows the average price of the last 3 items sold in that timeframe?

These are the last sales on EU: One for 15 mio, the others for around 18 mio. One person forgot a decimal and sold it for 2 mio, another one seemingly forgot to put in a 1 at the start and sold it for 9 instead of 19 mio. Or they were just generous?

https://i.ibb.co/cXJP7pt/hairstyle.png

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Catering rewards to potential future players is pointless and near impossible anyway

Like why can’t I log onto RuneScape right now and go “why can’t I have a party hat?” I mean they were worthless when they dropped in 2001 and now they are the most valuable items in the game

Should every person be given the option of being given a partyhat because not everyone was around in 2001? Or should if you want something but joined later than it was at its most accessible point you pay what it’s being sold for

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Is RuneScape the only MMO you played other than 14? I don't think its a fair compareions since the two are kinda night and day in terms of design. Given I never played RS but I believe Kaurhz when they say that RS is design with long term functionality where ff14 is not.

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

People complain about things being put there all the time. Are you selectively blind? Every time something new comes out, people complain. People complained graha's hair is separate from the clothing, even. Barely a grumble? Just because you (whether intentionally or not) fail to notice something doesn't mean it's even there. People complain less about the mogstore now because it's old news. The hairstyle in a Chaotic raid is new news. So of course people are being louder about it. That is literally how news works.

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I said "complain less", not "no complaints at all". But Hell I'm looking back through the forum posts and I don't see anything complaining about the hair being cash shop exclusive. In fact the only hair and cash shop topic I've seen is someone asking them to put Cloud's hair in the cash shop. I mean I went back to December 16th and not a single topic talks about the cash shop hair. It's actually worse than I thought.

I'll say it again. The community's priorities and expectations are broken.

Edit: As far as "People complain less about the mogstore now because it's old news." perhaps you are right. People got used to it. So, I whole heartedly encourage SE to put more tradable glams/hairs in high-end content so the community will get used to that as well.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

You should already know why RuneScape is a bad example to use when comparing it to FFXIV. There are only a few examples where content in XIV is designed long term. Comparatively practically everything in RuneScape is designed for Long Term functionality, and even a lot of the content in RuneScape has a high amount of solo activity in it which lends itself to the design they’ve opted for.

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That doesn’t affect something like party hats which were always limited as they were event items. If you want them you pay the cost. The same is true here. Content being designed to die isn’t an excuse it’s a flaw of the system that should change

If the excuse to no put good rewards in content is “but it’s not designed long term” no content will ever have any rewards

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Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin

Is RuneScape the only MMO you played other than 14? I don't think its a fair compareions since the two are kinda night and day in terms of design. Given I never played RS but I believe Kaurhz when they say that RS is design with long term functionality where ff14 is not.

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No it’s just the easiest example to draw to with player economy

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

That doesn’t affect something like party hats which were always limited as they were event items. If you want them you pay the cost. The same is true here. Content being designed to die isn’t an excuse it’s a flaw of the system that should change

If the excuse to no put good rewards in content is “but it’s not designed long term” no content will ever have any rewards



No it’s just the easiest example to draw to with player economy

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Granted in the specific case with party hats it doesn’t, but it’s still not really a good comparison, both of the MMOs were designed fundamentally different goals and objectives. RuneScape is inherently a more focused economic game. It drives everything so vanity items like party hats being highly rarefied is still something far more normalised and better suited to the design of RuneScape. This is also coming from the game that has now indirectly monetised a lot of the vanities.

Nobody is saying that the content should not have good rewards at all, but this is entirely subjective anyway. For me personally the mount is far more enticing than the hairstyle, but you typically don’t see good game design in putting long-term rewards behind short form content.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Granted in the specific case with party hats it doesn’t, but it’s still not really a good comparison, both of the MMOs were designed fundamentally different goals and objectives. RuneScape is inherently a more focused economic game. It drives everything so vanity items like party hats being highly rarefied is still something far more normalised and better suited to the design of RuneScape. This is also coming from the game that has now indirectly monetised a lot of the vanities.

Nobody is saying that the content should not have good rewards at all, but this is entirely subjective anyway. For me personally the mount is far more enticing than the hairstyle, but you typically don’t see good game design in putting long-term rewards behind short form content.

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Then that circles back to the wider issue. 14 has no long form content (Bozja is about the best example and even it at this point is more just a glorified glamour farm compared to what it was at launch)

If you have no long form content then what content actually is allowed to have rewards such as this hair or rare tradeable mounts when everything is inherently limited by the fact that there is no long form content

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Then that circles back to the wider issue. 14 has no long form content (Bozja is about the best example and even it at this point is more just a glorified glamour farm compared to what it was at launch)

If you have no long form content then what content actually is allowed to have rewards such as this hair or rare tradeable mounts when everything is inherently limited by the fact that there is no long form content

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Then you should be taking issue with the wider design of the game rather than being overly defensive over rightful and sensible feedback that people are giving. This game won’t be substantive if our idea of addressing the root problem content in the game is to just simply “put more rewards behind it to extend the shelf life marginally at best.

I wouldn’t really consider mounts and minions to be as long form rewards as what hairstyles are for example. It’s an MMO and people want to look unique, and the game does an extremely poor job at this. I would also disagree partially, both Bozja and Eureka exploratory zones are long-term content. They retain very high retention rates well out of the standard content lifecycle.Can the same be said about Chaotic following their standard content pipeline?

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Originally Posted by Tint

Is that even from the EU data center then? I also think the graph shows the average price of the last 3 items sold in that timeframe?

These are the last sales on EU: One for 15 mio, the others for around 18 mio. One person forgot a decimal and sold it for 2 mio, another one seemingly forgot to put in a 1 at the start and sold it for 9 instead of 19 mio. Or they were just generous?

https://i.ibb.co/cXJP7pt/hairstyle.png

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Yeah, it's for both EU data centres if you scroll to the bottom of the same page. It looks like the graph at the bottom might update faster than the list because the most recent sales on the graph are more recent than the listed sales.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

It’s an MMO and people want to look unique, and the game does an extremely poor job at this.

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By this logic, people who want to look unique should be happy it's gated behind difficult content/millions of gil because then that means there won't be thousands of people wearing it day 1.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

By this logic, people who want to look unique should be happy it's gated behind difficult content/millions of gil because then that means there won't be thousands of people wearing it day 1.

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Not really, ideally you would want as many hairstyles and customisation options to be with the game by default as it then gives a diverse amount of options to scale through by default.

It doesn’t really do well if the default choices are already limited beyond what should be reasonable for a game of this size.

If the game actually had the ability to provide a diverse and wide range of features then it wouldn’t really matter where they are from, but they don’t because they’re largely creatively bankrupt and rely on player events lol

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Not really, ideally you would want as many hairstyles and customisation options to be with the game by default as it then gives a diverse amount of options to scale through by default.

It doesn’t really do well if the default choices are already limited beyond what should be reasonable for a game of this size.

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Yes really. People getting the same hairstyles at level 1 means you'll run into vastly more characters who have the exact same look as compared to something that is far more difficult to obtain. You'll run into thousands of people with the starter gear compared to someone wearing the Paglth'an tank top. This isn't a difficult concept to figure out. Having more variety is good. But wanting to look unique means you're advocating for exclusivity.