Suggestion: Aby proc cells

[Arcon]

If your group is NIN + BLM/BRD you can't cover WHM unless the NIN is /WHM and you can't cover BLU.
If your group is BLU/NIN + BLM/BRD you can't cover WHM.
The odds of a reset giving a group (duo really) the spells they can cast are far greater than a solo player thus it's a greater potential benefit.

A group's chance at a proc is already a lot higher, so the chance they need a reset in the first place is very low. Thus groups including a BLM/BRD already fare very well in that regard and won't need it. However, this could be invaluable to people who rely on solo/duo efforts for this.

In mathematical terms:
A group with a BLM/BRD has a 71% chance to get a proc. Resetting would increase that to a 92% chance.
A solo NIN has a 14% chance to get a proc. Resetting would increase that to a 27% chance.

While the group's chance at a proc increased by 30%, the soloers chance almost doubled. In long terms that means the group's average farming time for seals decreases by 23%, while the soloers farming time decreases by 50%.

[Zagen]

A group's chance at a proc is already a lot higher, so the chance they need a reset in the first place is very low. Thus groups including a BLM/BRD already fare very well in that regard and won't need it. However, this could be invaluable to people who rely on solo/duo efforts for this.

In mathematical terms:
A group with a BLM/BRD has a 71% chance to get a proc. Resetting would increase that to a 92% chance.
A solo NIN has a 14% chance to get a proc. Resetting would increase that to a 27% chance.

While the group's chance at a proc increased by 30%, the soloers chance almost doubled. In long terms that means the group's average farming time for seals decreases by 23%, while the soloers farming time decreases by 50%.

I'm sorry I should have been more specific if a group or soloer is already using the item because the proc is something they don't have the group has better odds of getting it on 1 item's use.

Yes the NIN's odds nearly double because they have such a low chance but the NIN still only has a 3/21 or 5/21 (if /WHM for lightsday) after the rest where as the group still has 18/21 at worst.

A smart duo would of course go when they could do 21/21 but then again I wouldn't be entertaining the idea of the item's existence for solo or groups if I went with that logic.

[Trisscar]

So as a solo player you'd keep resetting until you get a NIN proc? Sounds like a huge waste of time but at that point it would benefit groups more so than solo players because they would just reset until it isn't BLU or WHM depending on the setup.

Depending on how they implement such an idea, it actually would benefit solo/low man groups.

To be honest it is a lot better suggestion than tell someone go pay for a second account, plus character content, plus game content, plus invest another 3 or more years time gearing and EXPing another character, et cetera just to do out dated content.

Even purchasable KI is a better solution.

[Trisscar]

My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.

I would prefer limiting the purchase limit to once per game day, personally.

[Zagen]

Depending on how they implement such an idea, it actually would benefit solo/low man groups.

To be honest it is a lot better suggestion than tell someone go pay for a second account, plus character content, plus game content, plus invest another 3 or more years time gearing and EXPing another character, et cetera just to do out dated content.

Even purchasable KI is a better solution.

Playing with others is an even better solution. Considering you only need 2-3 good players to cover all procs in Abyssea (some depending on game day of course) I don't see the problem with how it already works.

[Demon6324236]

The problem is, finding people to do it when everyone has their seals finished already because Abysseas content was fast for groups, leaving everyone new to it to solo it or shout for hours on end for people. I understand Abyssea is lowmanable enough, but really if you cant get anyone to help should you have to make a 2nd account just to do things? People point out its a MMO, meant to play with others, the problem is when others dont want to play with you, you get kinda left behind.

[Lyberty]

I would prefer limiting the purchase limit to once per game day, personally.

Me too, but people would just complain about it being too "easy"... its hard to find a middle ground that makes everyone happy nowadays

[Trisscar]

I honestly don't care about people calling it 'too easy', they have zero legitimate arguments and prone to huge glaring logical fallacies to the point it gives me a migraine.

[Mayoyama]

My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.

Sadly SE would never do this as many seal nms also double as KI nms for empyrean weapon items.. and SE are unlikely to ever do anything to change the way in which emp weps are acquired (esp wont make it even easier to obtain)

They may do something if it affected only yellow or blue, but highly doubt red procs (as nice as this would be).

[Fynlar]

ITT: Abyssea procs are hard.