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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Suggestion: Aby proc cells

    I have seen it suggested multiple times to make KI to spawn NMs for Empyrean weapons something you can purchase, I've made the same suggestion myself.

    And while I still think this would go a long way towards streamlining an increasingly solo heavy process I believe it doesn't address a core issue, namely that unless you get extremely lucky or happen to have alts to cover all the procs you still aren't getting them.

    This is especially a problem if you're stuck soloing NM for seals, weapons, armors, or atma. So either overhaul the proc system to more closely match Dyna's or make cells (temp items only available in Aby) that, when used, have a chance to proc weakness in the target NM.

    I strongly support the last option. You know now that cruor essentially became worthless apart from brewing random crap.
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    All I read is that you either:
    A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
    or
    B) Need to make new friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    All I read is that you either:
    A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
    or
    B) Need to make new friends.
    Trust me, soloing isn't my first choice. I'm a firm believer that doing things like farming seals are less time consuming, safer, and easier when you do it in a group. But that isn't always possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    All I read is that you either:
    A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
    or
    B) Need to make new friends.
    All I read is you're kind of a twat.

    All an MMO means is that there are many other players you can interact with, not that you must interact with. If you had to team up with everyone for everything, SE would have designed it that way, but there's many. many things you can do ingame without other people. Hell, if you were inclined to do so, you could farm gil 24/7 and just merc every piece of rare/ex gear you need.

    Abyssea is mid-level content now, kind of like how AF was at level 75. Sure, you could bring a bunch of people to farm coffer keys and do the lvl 60 armor quests but if you had a level 75 job it was nowhere near necessary. Same applies now at 99. I have heard no argument from the naysayers (all 2 or 3 of you... out of thousands of ffxi players) other than you feel it goes against what you think a model of an MMO should be.

    Like Trisscar said, there's no reason to cockblock people late to the party...especially when empy weapons and +2 gear seem to be a bare minimum to other content in the game (and since i constantly read on this forum how Abyssea is such dead content).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    All I read is that you either:
    A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
    or
    B) Need to make new friends.

    You don't just go out and "make friends." It's a natural process. It just happens. While you can put yourself into situations where you are more likely to interact with people, you can't force it to happen. Not only that, but if you're going out to "make friends" just so you can get shit done then you're doing it wrong. You're not "making friends." You're just using people.

    As far as people who say "level a different job to get what you need for this job," I have to disagree. If you level that other job, you'll never see your favorite job again. I got stuck on BRD for years and I ended up having a generally miserable experience.

    For those who say it's a personal issue rather than a system one, I also disagree. The game and content aren't appealing to enough people to keep things moving along. That is absolutely an SE problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    You don't just go out and "make friends." It's a natural process. It just happens. While you can put yourself into situations where you are more likely to interact with people, you can't force it to happen. Not only that, but if you're going out to "make friends" just so you can get shit done then you're doing it wrong. You're not "making friends." You're just using people.
    I've never had a problem making friends in the game. I've made friends EXPing, joining shouts groups, heck even coming across random people while I'm doing something on my own and we happen to be doing the same thing. I've even made friends by joining in shout fests in Jeuno though that's rare. Maybe I just happen to have a friendly personality though most of my friends would say I have a smart*** personality.

    If you believe friends aren't using each other any differently than random people teaming up because of immediate mutual benefits you're wrong. The difference between a friend and a random person is that they know their "selfless help" will be repaid at some point by having someone to talk to, do stuff with, or by knowing you'll do the same down the line.

    Sorry if I burst you friend bubble. You can test this yourself, ask a friend to do something, then something else and something else and something else, all while you do nothing in return for them. See how long before that friend isn't your friend anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    I've never had a problem making friends in the game. I've made friends EXPing, joining shouts groups, heck even coming across random people while I'm doing something on my own and we happen to be doing the same thing. I've even made friends by joining in shout fests in Jeuno though that's rare. Maybe I just happen to have a friendly personality though most of my friends would say I have a smart*** personality.
    You're telling people to go out and make friends as if you can force the issue. Friends aren't made. They happen. You can make acquaintances though. Maybe that's what you mean, but you can't really rely on them.

    If you believe friends aren't using each other any differently than random people teaming up because of immediate mutual benefits you're wrong. The difference between a friend and a random person is that they know their "selfless help" will be repaid at some point by having someone to talk to, do stuff with, or by knowing you'll do the same down the line.
    We all have ulterior motives even if they're completely innocent and benign, but you want someone to "make friends" with a specific goal in mind. What happens when the goal is completed? You have a fake friendship built on a faulty foundation. It will almost certainly collapse, but I guess it's ok as long as someone gets their shiny. It's the same as when someone builds an LS with the pretense of getting everyone relics or emps then bails once their own is done.

    Sorry if I burst you friend bubble. You can test this yourself, ask a friend to do something, then something else and something else and something else, all while you do nothing in return for them. See how long before that friend isn't your friend anymore.
    You're talking to the wrong person. My "friend bubble" got burst a long time ago. And that scenario you're setting up? I would never do that to someone, because that's how I generally get treated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    You're telling people to go out and make friends as if you can force the issue. Friends aren't made. They happen. You can make acquaintances though. Maybe that's what you mean, but you can't really rely on them.
    Sorry I skipped a step. Do things with others, you'll make acquaintances, do things with acquaintances, soon some will make friends. It's a game intended to be played with others why not actually do that? I'm sorry it doesn't happen instantaneously but if people actually tried being social it would happen far faster than the development team gets things done.

    Making friends means this and many other suggestions which are meant to help the solo player out need not be considered let alone implemented. Which means the dev team could be working on other things that we could enjoy as a whole community instead of just a small group of players.
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    While we're at it, let's lighten the load a bit for blue mages in voidwatch as far as procs go >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    While we're at it, let's lighten the load a bit for blue mages in voidwatch as far as procs go >_>
    While I agree, what does that have to do with the subject at hand?
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