Suggestion: Aby proc cells

[Trisscar]

I have seen it suggested multiple times to make KI to spawn NMs for Empyrean weapons something you can purchase, I've made the same suggestion myself.

And while I still think this would go a long way towards streamlining an increasingly solo heavy process I believe it doesn't address a core issue, namely that unless you get extremely lucky or happen to have alts to cover all the procs you still aren't getting them.

This is especially a problem if you're stuck soloing NM for seals, weapons, armors, or atma. So either overhaul the proc system to more closely match Dyna's or make cells (temp items only available in Aby) that, when used, have a chance to proc weakness in the target NM.

I strongly support the last option. You know now that cruor essentially became worthless apart from brewing random crap.

[Zagen]

All I read is that you either:
A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
or
B) Need to make new friends.

[Trisscar]

All I read is that you either:
A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
or
B) Need to make new friends.

Trust me, soloing isn't my first choice. I'm a firm believer that doing things like farming seals are less time consuming, safer, and easier when you do it in a group. But that isn't always possible.

[Antanias]

While we're at it, let's lighten the load a bit for blue mages in voidwatch as far as procs go >_>

[Trisscar]

While we're at it, let's lighten the load a bit for blue mages in voidwatch as far as procs go >_>

While I agree, what does that have to do with the subject at hand?

[Alerith]

This is a lazy player's suggestion. If you can't find people to proc with, then that's an issue with you, not the system. Implementing something like this would do nothing more than cripple group play even further with little to no real benefit.

[Trisscar]

This is a lazy player's suggestion. If you can't find people to proc with, then that's an issue with you, not the system. Implementing something like this would do nothing more than cripple group play even further with little to no real benefit.

Wow how wrong can you possibly get? This actually does help groups out a lot. Lets say you do manage to start getting people together for a seal run, but you can't fill the fourth slot. Not only is this not unheard of, but its fairly common. It's usually the BLM/BRD you can't get.

So what you expect that group to do? Sit around and shout fruitlessly for hours, increasing the chances that group will disband before killing a single thing?

The cell idea would allow the group to be able to cover that weakness of BLM or BRD if they come up even without having either present. And since reading for comprehension is apparently not a skill you've been keeping leveled, the cells do not have a 100% rate and are subject to the same limitations that normal proc have.

[hiko]

Wow how wrong can you possibly get? This actually does help groups out a lot. Lets say you do manage to start getting people together for a seal run, but you can't fill the fourth slot. Not only is this not unheard of, but its fairly common. It's usually the BLM/BRD you can't get.

So what you expect that group to do? Sit around and shout fruitlessly for hours, increasing the chances that group will disband before killing a single thing?

The cell idea would allow the group to be able to cover that weakness of BLM or BRD if they come up even without having either present. And since reading for comprehension is apparently not a skill you've been keeping leveled, the cells do not have a 100% rate and are subject to the same limitations that normal proc have.

don't need 4 people to farm seal if you have 3 people just have one change into BLM!


BLU/NIN + BLM/BRD cover all proc Earthsday --> Watersday --> Windsday --> Iceday (half the week) only miss dispel if start firesday, add a whm and you have everything full week

[Zagen]

Wow how wrong can you possibly get? This actually does help groups out a lot. Lets say you do manage to start getting people together for a seal run, but you can't fill the fourth slot. Not only is this not unheard of, but its fairly common. It's usually the BLM/BRD you can't get.

So what you expect that group to do? Sit around and shout fruitlessly for hours, increasing the chances that group will disband before killing a single thing?

The cell idea would allow the group to be able to cover that weakness of BLM or BRD if they come up even without having either present. And since reading for comprehension is apparently not a skill you've been keeping leveled, the cells do not have a 100% rate and are subject to the same limitations that normal proc have.

Or you could just level BLM/BRD like I did. Don't have a WHM, NIN, or BLU if you bother with BLU? I got those covered too. It took a week to level them up each because I took my time. This isn't the era where it's acceptable for players have 1 job leveled.

As Alerith said this is a solution for the lazy people and is counterproductive to group play. If you don't see how, here's just 1 example: I could go on NIN/DNC and cover all procs instead of just 3 for +1/2s.

[Trisscar]

Or you could just level BLM/BRD like I did. Don't have a WHM, NIN, or BLU if you bother with BLU? I got those covered too. It took a week to level them up each because I took my time. This isn't the era where it's acceptable for players have 1 job leveled.

As Alerith said this is a solution for the lazy people and is counterproductive to group play. If you don't see how, here's just 1 example: I could go on NIN/DNC and cover all procs instead of just 3 for +1/2s.

So it's lazy compared to buying KI to spawn (for example) Cloris, bypassing all the farming you would normally have to do?

If you can't see why the solution I suggest is better than I'm not sure if you'll ever understand even if I explain it to you.

Besides, you say you're concerned about it impacting groups. I fail to see how it could be anything but a boon for groups.

Don't have a MNK for blunt procs? No problem! Don't have anyone with GK when the red proc is Koki? No problem!