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    Yeah, that's an awesome idea. I personally 18-box stuff, solves the problem of not finding 17 people to help. Clearly a great solution.
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    Also to note, all seals are questable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    All I read is that you either:
    A) Need to make friends as this is a MMO and one of the points of a MMO is playing with others.
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    B) Need to make new friends.
    All I read is you're kind of a twat.

    All an MMO means is that there are many other players you can interact with, not that you must interact with. If you had to team up with everyone for everything, SE would have designed it that way, but there's many. many things you can do ingame without other people. Hell, if you were inclined to do so, you could farm gil 24/7 and just merc every piece of rare/ex gear you need.

    Abyssea is mid-level content now, kind of like how AF was at level 75. Sure, you could bring a bunch of people to farm coffer keys and do the lvl 60 armor quests but if you had a level 75 job it was nowhere near necessary. Same applies now at 99. I have heard no argument from the naysayers (all 2 or 3 of you... out of thousands of ffxi players) other than you feel it goes against what you think a model of an MMO should be.

    Like Trisscar said, there's no reason to cockblock people late to the party...especially when empy weapons and +2 gear seem to be a bare minimum to other content in the game (and since i constantly read on this forum how Abyssea is such dead content).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yeah, that's an awesome idea. I personally 18-box stuff, solves the problem of not finding 17 people to help. Clearly a great solution.
    coz 2=18.. ya.. troll harder... and quite seriously.. who the f* uses 18 person alliance in aby anymore (outside xp pts)? rofl

    Funny how you completely ignored the 2nd half of my post too... lol.

    Simple answer: dont like someone's suggestion, ignore it and move on. Dont ask for help then give snide remarks at people when they give reasonable options/answers. Makes people less likely to want to help you next time

    Stop acting like an entitled brat
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    You missed the point of that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayoyama View Post
    coz 2=18.. ya.. troll harder... and quite seriously.. who the f* uses 18 person alliance in aby anymore (outside xp pts)? rofl

    Funny how you completely ignored the 2nd half of my post too... lol.

    Simple answer: dont like someone's suggestion, ignore it and move on. Dont ask for help then give snide remarks at people when they give reasonable options/answers. Makes people less likely to want to help you next time

    Stop acting like an entitled brat
    Leveling a whole other account so you can gear your primary account is really not a reasonable solution> It only appears that way if you're a meth-like addict for this game. Plus it kinda goes against what "true" MMOers (like Zagen) are going for with protecting the "group-oriented" nature of the game.
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    Last edited by Aldersyde; 11-10-2012 at 06:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    BLM proc spells can't ever be completel resisted. BRD spells even with capped skill and rocking full MACC gear/atma you aren't going to land threnodies unless you get incredibly lucky.
    I haven't been BLM to Abyssea much, but I've yet to encounter any trouble landing Threnodies on seal NMs without Elemental Seal. With the Atma of the Ultimate and Chatoyant Staff, along with some minor gear here and there it lands very reliably unless it's a particularly resistant NM. I don't even remember when I had to use ES to land it the last time, but it wasn't this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    These cells would do nothing more than encourage less group play because a group will no longer be required to proc.
    That's not at all a bad thing. Groups at this point are a hindrance in Abyssea parties, most people actually have trouble finding them. I've seen shouts go on for hours, unanswered. Abyssea is old content, it should not require three people to do efficiently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Also to note, all seals are questable.
    Not noteworthy at all, because a vast majority of those quests are utterly useless. Slow, painful or expensive, or any combination of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayoyama View Post
    Simple answer: dont like someone's suggestion, ignore it and move on.
    Or point out just how ridiculous their suggestion is. You're giving people bad advice, you should be called out on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayoyama View Post
    coz 2=18.. ya.. troll harder... and quite seriously.. who the f* uses 18 person alliance in aby anymore (outside xp pts)? rofl

    Funny how you completely ignored the 2nd half of my post too... lol.
    Who says I was talking about abyssea farming? It's irrelevant in either case. The point is that buying the game again in order to complete content in the same game is ridiculous, no matter how many extra accounts it is.

    I ignored the second half of your post because it was of no relevance to what I had an issue with. If you find that funny, maybe you just have a poor sense of humor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Who says I was talking about abyssea farming? It's irrelevant in either case. The point is that buying the game again in order to complete content in the same game is ridiculous, no matter how many extra accounts it is.

    I ignored the second half of your post because it was of no relevance to what I had an issue with. If you find that funny, maybe you just have a poor sense of humor.
    My suggestion was for OP.. not you for starters. And since the whole thread is about proccing in abyssea... it has everything to do with farming in abyssea, whether it be +1, +2, emp weps w/e

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Or point out just how ridiculous their suggestion is. You're giving people bad advice, you should be called out on it.
    Ya coz being proactive and making a 2nd character so you can dualbox stuff is so much worse than standing idle in port jeuno for hours with a thumb up your ass complaining that you cant get nothing done
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    It's not that dualboxing isn't more efficient, it's that it shouldn't be a "solution" to be used instead of the developers changing the game in a way that makes it better.

    If people should "buy another game account" to do abyssea, it isn't a far stretch to say "six people could just all triplebox to get all procs in voidwatch" to people when they ask SE to change things there.

    It is the same principle, you are asking people to pay 2-3 times more for their game instead of SE changing the gameplay.

    "Just multibox it" is a terrible suggestion, and it would be a lot better to just implement a cruor-bought item that would reset the NM's weakness to a new randomly (within day/time limits)picked proc. If it was lightsday and you got "Dispel" as the proc, you could use the item and it would change to for example Thunder IV. You'd still need to get hints all over again, of course, but it would still be a lot less annoying.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 11-10-2012 at 08:49 PM.

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