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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    So as a solo player you'd keep resetting until you get a NIN proc? Sounds like a huge waste of time but at that point it would benefit groups more so than solo players because they would just reset until it isn't BLU or WHM depending on the setup.
    Depending on how they implement such an idea, it actually would benefit solo/low man groups.

    To be honest it is a lot better suggestion than tell someone go pay for a second account, plus character content, plus game content, plus invest another 3 or more years time gearing and EXPing another character, et cetera just to do out dated content.

    Even purchasable KI is a better solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    Depending on how they implement such an idea, it actually would benefit solo/low man groups.

    To be honest it is a lot better suggestion than tell someone go pay for a second account, plus character content, plus game content, plus invest another 3 or more years time gearing and EXPing another character, et cetera just to do out dated content.

    Even purchasable KI is a better solution.
    Playing with others is an even better solution. Considering you only need 2-3 good players to cover all procs in Abyssea (some depending on game day of course) I don't see the problem with how it already works.
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    Player Mayoyama's Avatar
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    I certainly dont disagree how frustrating not being able to have the proc is (I'm staring at you freezebite while on nin...). I also dont disagree that multiboxing is merely a bandaid solution to try overcome lack of people/jobs to get crap done (and tbh its a royal PITA sometimes having to try maneuver and keep an eye on two characters)

    But.. at the same time, its also one of the only ways I am able to get stuff done when the rest of my ls goes to bed (yay for being aussie and ls goes to bed at 2-4pm my time lol). So until such a point that SE does decide to change things (if they bother considering their focus is now on expansion/new content), it will continue to be one of a handful of options people have for content that 75%+ of the playerbase has done to death and doesnt want to keep helping others do

    BTW, I apologise for the gnarcky comments
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    It's been a while since i specifically went after seals now, my blm friend seems to have a decent amount of trouble landing threnodies on +2 item NMs without elemental seal, at least. He's got brd leveled too, so he's capped on skill, but it seems to be floored on hit rate even with an ascetic's tonic and some gear.
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    The problem with Abyssea is that it's very strict in what jobs you need to bring if you want to proc yellow for seals. If you combine that with the fact that every NM only drops 4 types of seals it really makes it difficult for anyone to shout up someone who just happens to have both the required job leveled and wants that particular seal. At this point, most of the people who need seals are playing catchup and probably don't have every single one of the needed jobs leveled so that argument makes no sense to me.

    Still, the simple solution I've always found is just...farm NMs as a Melee + mage combo and proc what you can, and then just kill if you can't hit the proc. The NM can still drop up to two seals if you don't proc anyway. The only exception to this I can think of is body seal NMs given how irritating it can be to farm up their pops sometimes.
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    My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.
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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyberty View Post
    My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.
    I would prefer limiting the purchase limit to once per game day, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    I would prefer limiting the purchase limit to once per game day, personally.
    Me too, but people would just complain about it being too "easy"... its hard to find a middle ground that makes everyone happy nowadays
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyberty View Post
    My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.
    Sadly SE would never do this as many seal nms also double as KI nms for empyrean weapon items.. and SE are unlikely to ever do anything to change the way in which emp weps are acquired (esp wont make it even easier to obtain)

    They may do something if it affected only yellow or blue, but highly doubt red procs (as nice as this would be).
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    The problem is, finding people to do it when everyone has their seals finished already because Abysseas content was fast for groups, leaving everyone new to it to solo it or shout for hours on end for people. I understand Abyssea is lowmanable enough, but really if you cant get anyone to help should you have to make a 2nd account just to do things? People point out its a MMO, meant to play with others, the problem is when others dont want to play with you, you get kinda left behind.
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