Suggestion: Aby proc cells

[Mayoyama]

I certainly dont disagree how frustrating not being able to have the proc is (I'm staring at you freezebite while on nin...). I also dont disagree that multiboxing is merely a bandaid solution to try overcome lack of people/jobs to get crap done (and tbh its a royal PITA sometimes having to try maneuver and keep an eye on two characters)

But.. at the same time, its also one of the only ways I am able to get stuff done when the rest of my ls goes to bed (yay for being aussie and ls goes to bed at 2-4pm my time lol). So until such a point that SE does decide to change things (if they bother considering their focus is now on expansion/new content), it will continue to be one of a handful of options people have for content that 75%+ of the playerbase has done to death and doesnt want to keep helping others do

BTW, I apologise for the gnarcky comments

[Zagen]

I haven't been BLM to Abyssea much, but I've yet to encounter any trouble landing Threnodies on seal NMs without Elemental Seal. With the Atma of the Ultimate and Chatoyant Staff, along with some minor gear here and there it lands very reliably unless it's a particularly resistant NM. I don't even remember when I had to use ES to land it the last time, but it wasn't this year.

Really? I guess those 4-9 levels make a difference. At 90-95 when I was heavily farming seals even with capped skill + merited singing it was a crap shoot without ES. Good to know however doesn't change the point about skill not being needed thanks to ES.

[Mirage]

It's been a while since i specifically went after seals now, my blm friend seems to have a decent amount of trouble landing threnodies on +2 item NMs without elemental seal, at least. He's got brd leveled too, so he's capped on skill, but it seems to be floored on hit rate even with an ascetic's tonic and some gear.

[Kincard]

The problem with Abyssea is that it's very strict in what jobs you need to bring if you want to proc yellow for seals. If you combine that with the fact that every NM only drops 4 types of seals it really makes it difficult for anyone to shout up someone who just happens to have both the required job leveled and wants that particular seal. At this point, most of the people who need seals are playing catchup and probably don't have every single one of the needed jobs leveled so that argument makes no sense to me.

Still, the simple solution I've always found is just...farm NMs as a Melee + mage combo and proc what you can, and then just kill if you can't hit the proc. The NM can still drop up to two seals if you don't proc anyway. The only exception to this I can think of is body seal NMs given how irritating it can be to farm up their pops sometimes.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Not noteworthy at all, because a vast majority of those quests are utterly useless. Slow, painful or expensive, or any combination of those.

All of the above is a far more viable option due to your apperent innability to obtain party members.

[Trisscar]

It's not that dualboxing isn't more efficient, it's that it shouldn't be a "solution" to be used instead of the developers changing the game in a way that makes it better.

If people should "buy another game account" to do abyssea, it isn't a far stretch to say "six people could just all triplebox to get all procs in voidwatch" to people when they ask SE to change things there.

It is the same principle, you are asking people to pay 2-3 times more for their game instead of SE changing the gameplay.

"Just multibox it" is a terrible suggestion, and it would be a lot better to just implement a cruor-bought item that would reset the NM's weakness to a new randomly (within day/time limits)picked proc. If it was lightsday and you got "Dispel" as the proc, you could use the item and it would change to for example Thunder IV. You'd still need to get hints all over again, of course, but it would still be a lot less annoying.

I actually like this suggestion better than my own. Cells that reset procs.

[Zagen]

I actually like this suggestion better than my own. Cells that reset procs.

So as a solo player you'd keep resetting until you get a NIN proc? Sounds like a huge waste of time but at that point it would benefit groups more so than solo players because they would just reset until it isn't BLU or WHM depending on the setup.

[Arcon]

So as a solo player you'd keep resetting until you get a NIN proc? Sounds like a huge waste of time but at that point it would benefit groups more so than solo players because they would just reset until it isn't BLU or WHM depending on the setup.

How is that "benefitting groups more"? Solo/duo setups would do exactly the same thing. Only for groups it would not even be required most of the time as long as they bring a BLM with them.

[Zagen]

How is that "benefitting groups more"? Solo/duo setups would do exactly the same thing. Only for groups it would not even be required most of the time as long as they bring a BLM with them.

If your group is NIN + BLM/BRD you can't cover WHM unless the NIN is /WHM and you can't cover BLU.
If your group is BLU/NIN + BLM/BRD you can't cover WHM.
The odds of a reset giving a group (duo really) the spells they can cast are far greater than a solo player thus it's a greater potential benefit. I say potential because even if the dev's wasted their time implementing this I wouldn't bother getting an extra item because I have the friends available.

Also with the exception of a few +2 NMs a group needs only ever be a duo or trio.

[Lyberty]

My 2 cents on this subject: we should be able to buy KIs with cruor for any NM inside aby, of course that being said the higher the NM tier the respective KI would be more expensive and to do not make it so "easy" you would be able to buy 1 KI per earth day to avoid abuses.