Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[SpankWustler]

Well i had always believed SMN Melee held its best spotlight In abyssea, testing it outside would go against my current beliefs of its uses.

This makes a lot of sense, at least to me. You may already have Razed Ruin and Co. on for your pet, +90% HP makes generic AoEs much less threatening, there's rarely a profound need for an extra source of healing, leaving to change jobs can be problematic, etc.

Outside of Abyssea, the meaningful content is mostly Voidwatch and re-vamped older content. Bonking most of that stuff seems ill-advised and I'm not sure what point bonking GoV monsters would have. Maybe you could bring Havartidangler to bear against some Decent Challenge stuff in city dynamis zones?

[Razushu]

This makes a lot of sense, at least to me. You may already have Razed Ruin and Co. on for your pet, +90% HP makes generic AoEs much less threatening, there's rarely a profound need for an extra source of healing, leaving to change jobs can be problematic, etc.

Outside of Abyssea, the meaningful content is mostly Voidwatch and re-vamped older content. Bonking most of that stuff seems ill-advised and I'm not sure what point bonking GoV monsters would have. Maybe you could bring Havartidangler to bear against some Decent Challenge stuff in city dynamis zones?

I lol'ed true story.

[Karbuncle]

This makes a lot of sense, at least to me. You may already have Razed Ruin and Co. on for your pet, +90% HP makes generic AoEs much less threatening, there's rarely a profound need for an extra source of healing, leaving to change jobs can be problematic, etc.

Outside of Abyssea, the meaningful content is mostly Voidwatch and re-vamped older content. Bonking most of that stuff seems ill-advised and I'm not sure what point bonking GoV monsters would have. Maybe you could bring Havartidangler to bear against some Decent Challenge stuff in city dynamis zones?

Perhaps, Kinda need Dynamis for my mandau :P, I don't think i could stomach Zerging mobs without procing there (which would be required for a decent test? I don't know, could work it out, but all the waiting to proc would skew it cause it would give time for BP timer to come up between fights).

On Razu:

I kinda agree, But I don't think it'd be a big problem, Like i said, I'll likely do an Outside and Inside test, I'm just vastly curious where a SMN melee would stand in both terms of DD vs a Real Melee, and DD vs our Avatars. I suspect great things to come.

[Razushu]

I kinda agree, But I don't think it'd be a big problem, Like i said, I'll likely do an Outside and Inside test, I'm just vastly curious where a SMN melee would stand in both terms of DD vs a Real Melee, and DD vs our Avatars. I suspect great things to come.

Then theres no problem, a baseline test(outside), and one in the best scenario(Abyssea) could yield some interesting results in comparison. Although I'm more waiting for the baseline than the other.

I'm looking forward to seeing:

Avatar Vs. SMN

Avatar+ SMN Vs. WAR

*SMN(no pet) Vs. WAR

*This one because it will be the truest test of a mage(SMN in this case) meleeing.