Summoner in Colonization Reives = Broken

[Malphius]

I can't believe that this thread is still going on. If this idiot whm was any good at his job, his party would be quite happy to use /blockaid to allow them to be exclusively cured by him.



Yes, melee SMN. It's not a new concept, you get 100%TP, then you use this to recover some MP. And nowadays, if you're lucky enough to have a Hvergelmir, you can use this instead for a lot of MP recovery. Without Hvergelmir, you may need to occasionally use Elemental Siphon, refresh or sublimation.

With capped gear haste, haste spell and Hvergelmir, you can WS every 39 seconds, assuming you never miss, and DA never procs. More than enough to keep 2 wards every 45 seconds + perp cost.

Blockaid doesn't work in this. You're very presumptive about a lot of things. And if you can't believe this thread is still going on then refrain from posting and it will die out.

[SNK]

Double attack and accuracy on a SMN? WTF did I just read? Are we just throwing meat-head DD logic onto everything now. Not to mention the severe lack of refresh and perp cost - means you'd run out of MP in probably under a minute. You can proc DA 100% of the time and it won't help one dang bit if you spend half the fight eating dirt.

>_____________________________> @ this post.

[Asymptotic]

Double attack and accuracy on a SMN? WTF did I just read? Are we just throwing meat-head DD logic onto everything now. Not to mention the severe lack of refresh and perp cost - means you'd run out of MP in probably under a minute. You can proc DA 100% of the time and it won't help one dang bit if you spend half the fight eating dirt.

Alternatively, you can use SMN's reasonable selection of high level battle mage gear, use Spirit Taker or Myrkr (Gates of Tartarus if you're a real boss) to recover MP and stop failing at your job.

With a post as misguided as this, I was going to say you're like, the personification of the official forums - except that's obviously not true. OFs are generally all over SMN melee.

[Alhanelem]

Double attack and accuracy on a SMN? WTF did I just read? Are we just throwing meat-head DD logic onto everything now. Not to mention the severe lack of refresh and perp cost - means you'd run out of MP in probably under a minute. You can proc DA 100% of the time and it won't help one dang bit if you spend half the fight eating dirt.

You have obviously never tried doing this, because you have no idea. I don't usually go all-out melee gear, leaving on my AF body and a few other items, but MP is never an issue when you're meleeing, especially if you have relic or empyrean staff, or one of the new ones with ridiculous damage. Spirit taker, Myrkr, o GoT whenever your MP is low is plenty enough to keep you running.

[Asymptotic]

I'm agreeing 100% with Alhanelem on something! What is this!

[Alhanelem]

Well, love or hate meleeing, there is no denying it will improve your evaluations- this is true for all jobs, regardless of whether they have spells to cast or not. You can cast spells and melee in a reieve. it's completely doable. People are just too insistent on "its a mage, u cant melee" and ignoring the simple truth that regardless of how good it is or you think it is, you'll earn more bayld.

[Lithera]

Ugh just give the op a yes or no and he might just quit belly aching. Though I highly doubt it

[Xerius]

I used to melee in SMN all the time and I'll admit it works great... if the mobs are 10~15 levels lower than you and they don't spam harsh AoE damage. Of course meleeing on any job can net you some extra Bayld but mage's tend to be squishy and that's why the term (Back line job) exists. Because if you've ever tried meleeing on most of the mage jobs in any event geared towards your level, with a few exceptions you're going to end up on your ass.

[Alhanelem]

I used to melee in SMN all the time and I'll admit it works great... if the mobs are 10~15 levels lower than you and they don't spam harsh AoE damage. Of course meleeing on any job can net you some extra Bayld but mage's tend to be squishy and that's why the term (Back line job) exists. Because if you've ever tried meleeing on most of the mage jobs in any event geared towards your level, with a few exceptions you're going to end up on your ass.

"harsh AoE damage" is a problem to all jobs, not just SMN, and I have no problem meleeing mobs above my level, not just "10 - 15 levels lower." Beyond that, no AoEs in colonization reieves are THAT bad, and people will be spamming garuda's heal and cures anyway.

What were you trying to melee with? an elemental staff? A weapon with half the base damage of an actual staff intended for meleeing? With even just a decent DD staff and little else in the way of offensive gear, you can outdamage your avatar by a substantial margin (it really isn't hard at all to beat your avatar, lol); in a reieve, your primary target, the wall, doesn't attack back, and if you only attack monsters other people are fighting, the odds you'll pull hate are slim.

Find an actual melee staff, get shattersoul, and be suprised. Stop making excuses and just do it.

[Jackstin]

Makes me want to build a battle mage....