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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    Dragoon has always been a good DD. Stardiver made it even better. It's typically the players that suck at DRG not DRG sucking as a job.
    I never picked on DRG and don't have any problem with it as a DD, so I don't know why you're telling me this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    Dragoon has always been a good DD. Stardiver made it even better. It's typically the players that suck at DRG not DRG sucking as a job.
    Agree on this, I have no idea why DRG is considered weak. It's just awesome.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    For the inventory challenged players concerned about regearing for melee, you may not really need a massive overhaul to increase your melee damage. As an example, for club/staff weilding jobs, you are likely already carrying and using pieces that mod your WS, so just swapping a few pieces can have a profound effect on your melee potential. One may already have a lot of those pieces if they have a DD job geared up and/or participated in the older content to a reasonable degree. Not talking about uber high gearing here....things that are fairly easy to farm/quest/buy. Items that add things like DA, Haste, StoreTP, ACC and such that are available to all jobs, readily attainable, and very likely to be stored somewhere in one of the many containers. They can easily be held in sack/satchel and swapped in/out for less important pieces as needed if your main inventory is tight. And, there is also the addition of food. You may be surprised how much a difference some foods can make.

    It isn't rocket science tweaking...just a little fine tuning here and there can go a long way sometimes.
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    Last edited by RAIST; 05-09-2013 at 07:48 AM.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Because most people ignored the damage the wyvern did. Along with until super jump the Drg wouldn't have a way to she'd their own hate. That normally ended with them dead. Drg was a job you wanted in somethings back at 75 but didn't want to help them get there. Same thing happened with Pup.
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    Player Rekin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Because most people ignored the damage the wyvern did. Along with until super jump the Drg wouldn't have a way to she'd their own hate. That normally ended with them dead. Drg was a job you wanted in somethings back at 75 but didn't want to help them get there. Same thing happened with Pup.
    People ignored wyvern dmg was because it became increasingly insignificant as players gained more and more buffs for alliance events and monsters gained in strength whilst wyvern had nothing to use aside its base stats. Back then a wyvern would contribute about 10% of a drg's total damage and it allowed drg to parse equally against equally well geared sam/drks/mnks in merit parties but then again most of the time the drg had 25% dmg bonus from piercing weak mobs.

    Since then drg hasn't gained any significant attack buffs and suffer from having weapon skills with no or a negative attack modifier (Drakes and Stardiver) if it had a ws of equal strength of its current endgame selection but with an attack bonus (30%+) then dragoon would be considered something somewhat significant. Also unlike WAR/DRK/SAM Drg has to chose between JA Haste/survivability/xhit (/sam) or attack bonus (/war) when joining alliance groups whilst the other 2handed DD jobs don't have to make such a choice.

    Not all is bad because DRG has great survivability between jumps/breaths but any form of AOE dmg screws up their wyvern where at most even with spirit link/Steady wing the wyvern can at most survive 4 tp moves and then any debuffs(mainly paralyze and amnesia) absolutely destroy drg's ability to survive using their wyvern.
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    It doesn't take much to know when someone is special. After 5 minutes if the person is alive and well you have a keeper, if they are dead and obnoxious then toss em like two day old leftovers.

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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Oh I know trust me I got to 75 on my nin draging my husband along on his goon. He loathed it when call wyvern was the 2hr and when people would groan when finding out what job he would becoming to parties to. Thankfully thfs loved him because he would allow em to SA on him n then TA n WS on me. Then he'd super jump. Heck there have been some BCNM type fights that he was the last person standing and wound up getting the win after 2hring with the one they have now.
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    Can we get back to how SMN needs to be nerfed in reives? That was funny.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    No, please let's just agree that rieves still need some tweaking by SE and leave it at that.
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