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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Summoner in Colonization Reives = Broken

    So I was doing Colonization Reives in Morimar Basalt Fields today. I was on WHM having a great time healing my party, buffing, doing my job, etc... when out of no where come 4 summoners and that's when things went down hill.

    Because Summoner BP's seem to have no boundaries in terms of party/alliance they are going to completely rain down epic fails on the point gains of other support class jobs. I went from 500~700 Bayld per tally to 100 if lucky because all 4 Summoners were spamming BP's. That was with my trying to spam curaga to keep up.

    BP's in Reives needs limited to party only or this is going to become PLD + SMN + DD only event.
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    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

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    Whip out a hammer and go all hammertime?
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    He once sold his soul to Promathia for a rare drop. He later won it back in a drinking contest, before beating up the twilight god for good measure.
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Still low points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    So I was doing Colonization Reives in Morimar Basalt Fields today. I was on WHM having a great time healing my party, buffing, doing my job, etc... when out of no where come 4 summoners and that's when things went down hill.

    Because Summoner BP's seem to have no boundaries in terms of party/alliance they are going to completely rain down epic fails on the point gains of other support class jobs. I went from 500~700 Bayld per tally to 100 if lucky because all 4 Summoners were spamming BP's. That was with my trying to spam curaga to keep up.

    BP's in Reives needs limited to party only or this is going to become PLD + SMN + DD only event.
    the Summoner in my alliance in Morimar said he was making insane Bayld using Garuda and whispering Wind, over 1000 points per increment, I'd say try that lol

    Even for SMNs there's like 5 ppl going SMN all competing for Whispering Wind lol
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    SMN is good at something? By Altana! Red alert! AWOOOOGAH! AWOOOGAH! This is NOT a drill! Emergency maintenance! Patch it NOW! GO GO GO! Let's move people! Let's MOVE!
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    SMN is good at something? By Altana! Red alert! AWOOOOGAH! AWOOOGAH! This is NOT a drill! Emergency maintenance! Patch it NOW! GO GO GO! Let's move people! Let's MOVE!
    The point isn't that Summoner is good at something, it's that summoner is actively degrading the point gain for other jobs. They have an incredibly unfair and unbalanced advantage. I can't curaga all the members in an area unless they are in my party. I can't Accession all the members in an area unless they are in my party. It's quite obviously broken and I don't see how there can be much debate about it.

    Limiting SMN BP's to party only isn't going to ruin the job or the experience. It will just put them on a level playing field with everyone else.
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    Last edited by Malphius; 05-03-2013 at 02:16 AM.
    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    SMN is good at something? By Altana! Red alert! AWOOOOGAH! AWOOOGAH! This is NOT a drill! Emergency maintenance! Patch it NOW! GO GO GO! Let's move people! Let's MOVE!
    this, this, this, a thousand times this.

    You cannot simply "go to the other side" of a Reive. Have you even done this event? Have you left Ceizak Battlegrounds?
    You most certainly can, as long as you've been to each of the bivouacs.

    I can't for the life of me comprehend why someone is upset that a typically very unwanted job is able to perform a useful task in an event and be rewarded for it.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-03-2013 at 09:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    this, this, this, a thousand times this.

    You most certainly can, as long as you've been to each of the bivouacs.

    I can't for the life of me comprehend why someone is upset that a typically very unwanted job is able to perform a useful task in an event and be rewarded for it.
    You get a time out penalty for leaving a reive. Again not upset they're useful. However it's useful to the point of being unbalanced. Thank you for your comments.
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    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    You get a time out penalty for leaving a reive. Again not upset they're useful. However it's useful to the point of being unbalanced. Thank you for your comments.
    Not here to defend Alhanelem (he can do that himself) but you CAN go to the other side of reive. Especially in Morimar Basalt Fields, it's very easy as long as you get there before the rock crack and block the "bridge". Also, if you were to stand at the right spot, you can heal ppl on both side. I've been going there for Reive and even my mule gets 3k per reive as sch just healing/buffing me (and the occasional healing of other DDs).
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    Not here to defend Alhanelem (he can do that himself) but you CAN go to the other side of reive. Especially in Morimar Basalt Fields, it's very easy as long as you get there before the rock crack and block the "bridge". Also, if you were to stand at the right spot, you can heal ppl on both side. I've been going there for Reive and even my mule gets 3k per reive as sch just healing/buffing me (and the occasional healing of other DDs).
    You get a direct penalty for leaving a reive and an indirect penalty for the time you could have been accumulating but were going to the other side. Targeting some people on the other side can some times work but only if there are plenty of people to handle incoming pops. Only really feasible in the starter zones.
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    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

    -Dead Prez

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