Tanaka or Yoshi?

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I'd rather have no forum and a good game.

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You had NEITHER with Tanaka, hence SE's decision.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

You had NEITHER with Tanaka, hence SE's decision.

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Well, on the bright side, at least now we have a place to troll Yoshi when he runs the game into the ground.

Game is already in the ground.

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Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

Game is already in the ground.

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Which means we can only go up from here, yes?

Also Tanaka even started talking about Forum's.... How do you think this is all Yoshi-P's idea is sad.... He is just finishing up project's by Tanaka and doing his own. He said that in his first letter... pay attention to info more often... if you are get a memory better than a goldfish.

Yes, and we all know how well his last forums went.

Let's face it. Tanaka was absolutely awful at communicating with players. Stop being such a battered housewife.

He had his chance - he failed. Let's let Yoshi-P take the reins now.

Lol so to be clear I like Yoshi-P more than Tanaka, What Tanaka did to XIV was a huge slap in the face I was all looking forward to things he promised at release to get a vastly empty world.

By the way, did you guys know that the Japanese forum had a very similar topic like this one and the admin shut it down saying that it is not a place to discuss qualifications or performance of directors?

I just thought it's kinda funny they let this thread remain intact, which makes me wonder if they are REALLY paying attention to postings in the English forum.

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Originally Posted by Leonroar

which makes me wonder if they are REALLY paying attention to postings in the English forum.

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Well.. If they aren't...

Theres a reason for that. >_>

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Originally Posted by Leonroar

By the way, did you guys know that the Japanese forum had a very similar topic like this one and the admin shut it down saying that it is not a place to discuss qualifications or performance of directors?

I just thought it's kinda funny they let this thread remain intact, which makes me wonder if they are REALLY paying attention to postings in the English forum.

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Probably because western people don't let things go if the thread got shutdown someone will immediately make another and 10 more till they're banned -- also cultural.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Well.. If they aren't...

Theres a reason for that. >_>

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*cough cough* all of us pathetic complainer's complaining about things before they are even released!
(meaning as an agreeing and talking to this OP' spamming the forum's with his complaints about everything, he should just make a post "Gifthorse just hates FFXIV and all my reasons for it" "EVERYTHING!!!!" topic done)

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Probably because western people don't let things go if the thread got shutdown someone will immediately make another and 10 more till they're banned -- also cultural.

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Another full agreement.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Probably because western people don't let things go if the thread got shutdown someone will immediately make another and 10 more till they're banned -- also cultural.

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That's a possibility. Westerners are not the kind to go quietly into the night when something like that is denied and are basically told "move on, citizen".

lol, well if i could read Japanese (which ill be taking a class soon enough), I wouldn't even bother to read up on the English forums myself. :P

Yoshi-P definitely takes the cake, the icing, and the six-pack of his choice in beverage. If because of nothing else, he likes to communicate with his audience in spite of language barriers and what-have-you.

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Originally Posted by Augury

So, an inarticulate person with good intentions who gets made into a fool by the mass media; or a product of popular opinion that knowingly lies to us? Doesn't sound like this argument at all.

Yoshi-P definitely takes the cake, the icing, and the six-pack of his choice in beverage. If because of nothing else, he likes to communicate with his audience in spite of language barriers and what-have-you.

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You mean the guy that was in charge when 9/11 Happened ? when the economy collapsed ? the one that committed 100K of our young ones in a war with no victory strategy ? The one that invaded a nation on the blatant lie of Weapons of mass destruction ? The one that said osama bin laden was not on his mind, even tho it was the reason to go to war in the first place ?

yeah bush was not an idiot at all.....

once again Yoshi-P is not a god he just one dude who doing a few more things then tanaka every did. But if you want FFXIV to be good you need tanaka and Yoshi-P to work together.

Tanaka had great ideas but the game was completely under-developed when he released it...after 5 years of work. Furthermore, as stated in this thread, "most of the 5 years were spent developing the engine" and it's still badly coded...have you ever noticed how nicer looking MMO games run much smoother than FFXIV? FFXIV has massive memory leaks and horrible optimization + huge resource use and it all leads back to terrible spaghetti coding in the engine.

Beyond that, most of the "nice ideas" Tanaka had in mind were implemented fairly horribly...I still can't believe he released the Market Wards without the search option. I don't know what he was thinking.

Yoshida on the other hand has made some pretty . . . enjoyable, I guess, changes but they don't have a large effect on the overall gaming experience. He has lots of changes planned but I'm guessing the majority of the changes will require lots of working with the spaghetti code Tanaka produced.

Right now I favor Yoshida-P. Tanaka should never had been in charge. He should've been the idea guy and Yoshida should've been the guy to actually code and implement the ideas.

EDIT: @Augury - Much of the current state of the economy can be attributed to the continuing reliance of oil (production peaked a couple years ago), the huge amount of $$$ spent on a pointless war, and the use of "Reagan economics"/the trickle-down effect. Bad decisions were made, and continual budget cuts to fund stupid things like the Iraq war are misplacing national funds greatly. However this forum is for discussing FFXIV so stop talking about politics unless you're going to post something about FFXIV as well (and replying to a post about FFXIV doesn't count as talking about FFXIV).

I've read most of the thread, and I'm stunned.

To the people supporting Tanaka: what exactly do you call his vision? I'm sorry but his vision is what we had on September 22nd. Sure the game was rushed but that's what he was capable of regardless. You all don't seem to remember how terrible it was then, but I do. I mean seriously, why would you praise the guy for fixing the UI when he's the one who fucked it up so bad in the first place? We had NO content. Absolutely nothing. Ok we had leves and the main storyline, but that's it really. We couldn't even grind properly, it was a nightmare. No inventory sort function, fatigue, no mailing system, no party seeking option... were those part of Tanaka's great vision? Cause everything I just mentioned WAS part of the game at release. So honestly all I feel like asking you people is: what the fuck?

The game is getting better, it's not good yet but it's on its way. All the pieces matter, people. If the game still sucks in 6 months I'll be pissed, no doubt, but what can we expect, honestly? I mean seeing devs saying it's gonna take a while to implement something like a freaking mailbox kinda tells me the ground work was fucked up. The whole thing has be fixed. And I don't know shit about making games, but that much seems pretty obvious.

Also, of course they're going to fix the battle system first, it's the centre of the game. They're not going to implement a shitton of stuff now if they have to work on it again after the overhaul is complete. What's happening right now is they are working on fixing shit that makes it impossible for them to actually develop the game, and I'm guessing that once the overhaul and the other essential problems are fixed, the ball will start rolling much faster.

Gifthorse, why the hell do you want Linkshell ships and player housing now? There would be nothing to do with it. Let's say they add it tomorrow, what are you gonna do? Build your ship and a house and fly over a world that's full of nothing? sounds awesome. Wait until there's some substance before demanding stuff that doesn't mean shit without something to back it up.

Yoshida gave us sidequests. Ok they're pretty lame, but you have to see the big picture. Some quests in FFXI sucked too, but they were part of making the world live. A year from now, when some newbie starts playing, he'll have choices. He gave us NMs, and I actually played the game for more than 2 hours for the first time in a month last week because I was camping them to get stuff for some friends and myself. Again, choice.
He also worked on the horrible targeting system. It's not great yet but at least we can work with it. He has bettered many things that were wrong with the UI. Take crafting for example, we now have a repeat button during locals. It doesn't seem like much but it's little things like this that make the game better.

What's wrong with hubs around the world? Why compare that to WoW? I don't know if you noticed but Eorzea is one fucking boring place. This will bring some life to our world if nothing else. I don't know about dungeons though, I will wait until I know more before saying anything.

That's the good side of Yoshida, but I agree with the person who mentioned that his letters are very vague. We don't know that much about the upcoming changes. We have the idea, but we don't know how it'll be set into motion.

In case it's not clear and before I'm deemed a Yoshida fanboy, I'm not thinking he's some kind of hero, I just have faith, cause what else is there? Right now he hasn't proven he can turn the game around, but I'm willing to give him some time cause he has to work with some shitty materials because of how messed up the game was when he took charge.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

I remember clearly that Tanaka said he use to play Everquest.

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That would be great if he were only competing with EQ, which he was when XI was released.

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Originally Posted by Adol

Guys, don't reply to that guy going on about politics. Just report his post, block the user and carry on as normal.
It's that simple.

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I took down my posts on the matter, I hope the other fellow does the same.

On subject:
Tanaka is a FANTASTIC designer, but the idea he had was far too big for the time alloted to this game. MMORPGs are HUGE money pits, and Square is very liberal about their published content- but this came to harm them in their decision involving XIV because the game wasn't ready for BETA, let alone launch etc. Tanaka's design wasn't able to be boiled down to something which could be stretched out in beta testing, and left the testers wanting more content which was in the works but never finished. This is where Yoshi-P is coming in strong. He seems to have a grasp on Tanaka's large idea, but will probably be able to deliver it to us in a more palatable manner.

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Originally Posted by Augury

I took down my posts on the matter, I hope the other fellow does the same.

On subject:
Tanaka is a FANTASTIC designer, but the idea he had was far too big for the time alloted to this game. MMORPGs are HUGE money pits, and Square is very liberal about their published content- but this came to harm them in their decision involving XIV because the game wasn't ready for BETA, let alone launch etc. Tanaka's design wasn't able to be boiled down to something which could be stretched out in beta testing, and left the testers wanting more content which was in the works but never finished. This is where Yoshi-P is coming in strong. He seems to have a grasp on Tanaka's large idea, but will probably be able to deliver it to us in a more palatable manner.

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Actually the basis of what Tanaka was doing was pretty damn horrid.

-> Badly coded game
-> Badly designed interface
-> Completely unbalanced combat
-> Lack of proper roles for classes
-> Broken crafting/gathering
-> Lack of basic features (party search, item search for market wards [seriously what in god's name was he thinking?], lack of any sort of instruction on how to play)
-> Extreme lack of content (5 years of development and all it was was levequests, 15 or so story quests [of which only about 5 can be done on one character])
-> Bugs galore (monsters randomly regaining HP, becoming untargettable, etc.)
-> Inability to see a monster's power
-> Broken patcher
-> Somehow they didn't even make sure it was playable on a PS3 even though they knew it was going to be released on the PS3
-> Bad bad bad horrible graphics optimization
-> Broken targeting system adding onto the combat bugs, imbalance, and broken UI

And out of all that, what can you say? "He had a good vision."

It really makes you wonder just what the hell he was doing for 5 years, considering how horribly the game is coded and how much content isn't there.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Actually the basis of what Tanaka was doing was pretty damn horrid.

-> Badly coded game
-> Badly designed interface
-> Completely unbalanced combat
-> Lack of proper roles for classes
-> Broken crafting/gathering
-> Lack of basic features (party search, item search for market wards [seriously what in god's name was he thinking?], lack of any sort of instruction on how to play)
-> Extreme lack of content (5 years of development and all it was was levequests, 15 or so story quests [of which only about 5 can be done on one character])
-> Bugs galore (monsters randomly regaining HP, becoming untargettable, etc.)
-> Inability to see a monster's power
-> Broken patcher
-> Somehow they didn't even make sure it was playable on a PS3 even though they knew it was going to be released on the PS3
-> Bad bad bad horrible graphics optimization
-> Broken targeting system adding onto the combat bugs, imbalance, and broken UI

And out of all that, what can you say? "He had a good vision."

It really makes you wonder just what the hell he was doing for 5 years, considering how horribly the game is coded and how much content isn't there.

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Well, despite the fact that the game was not in devleopment for 5 years, and also despite the fact that the wards not having a search feature was integral to the type of market system SE needed in order to give meaning to the crafting classes, I can't deny that the game was riddled with bugs and lag. But that's probbaly more a fault of premature release than anything else.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

And out of all that, what can you say? "He had a good vision."

It really makes you wonder just what the hell he was doing for 5 years, considering how horribly the game is coded and how much content isn't there.

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Well yeah, I'd imagine that the game was mostly on paper up until a year (maybe) of it's Beta. There's a good chance they were arguing about the same things we argue about now... Does the armory system work, does the leve system work, can experience fatigue work, does leveling or ranking work for an MMO? It all seems too rushed to me, to have been what Tanaka really thought he was designing. My guess is that when Yoshda got the job- he probably got the game on paper, as something more robust and fantastic than what we have on our computers. This actually isn't all that uncommon in game design though, a grandiose idea gets vivisected by deadlines and procrastination, and all of those good organs the game needs to work get left out of the product we get.

Every time I look at the conceptual aspects of the game- they are brilliant and sound engaging, and are engaging to act out or experiment with. Every time I play the game- the ideas are riddled with small flaws that need adjustment, but the idea is still there- and good.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

It really makes you wonder just what the hell he was doing for 5 years, considering how horribly the game is coded and how much content isn't there.

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They explained this time and time again -- the game was only in production for 3ish years (2007-2010) and they released it far too soon as it was done to pad reports in the end (note the release time frame and note the lack of meaningful titles released by SE late 2010.)

This is speculation:

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Somehow they didn't even make sure it was playable on a PS3 even though they knew it was going to be released on the PS3

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Give a source as they've stated the game was completed for the PS3 but it in the end is held back on release, but it kind of is impossible to not know if your game works on a system or not..they said the only difference would be scaled back to 720 and smaller bitmaps for memory reasons.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Well, despite the fact that the game was not in devleopment for 5 years, and also despite the fact that the wards not having a search feature was integral to the type of market system SE needed in order to give meaning to the crafting classes, I can't deny that the game was riddled with bugs and lag. But that's probbaly more a fault of premature release than anything else.

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Oh hey you're right, it's actually been in development since 2005 (if publicly announcing a new MMO counts as "development") so it's closer to 5 and a half.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/18/sq...-fantasy-xi-2/

EDIT: As for you Jen

http://www.vg247.com/2010/08/24/ffxi...s-square-enix/

They kinda didn't account for the PS3 not having the memory of a PC? It's probably a memory problem because of how horribly coded it is.

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Originally Posted by Shai

That would be great if he were only competing with EQ, which he was when XI was released.

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That's a witty comment but only if I was even remotely talking about competing with MMO's

The person I replied to said Tanaka has not experience with any MMO outside of FFXI. Your comment is troll bait.

Since you guys can't decide someone should put a picture of both, on one of those Hot or Not websites and lets them decide its fair that way.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

That's a witty comment but only if I was even remotely talking about competing with MMO's

The person I replied to said Tanaka has not experience with any MMO outside of FFXI. Your comment is troll bait.

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People need to learn the definition of trolling. I know what you were replying to. I'm saying, for the time he made XI, that was enough. For XIV, it's not enough. Does that have anything to do with you? If not, why take it personally. It's called having a conversation. I'm adding my thoughts. I'm not attacking you.

Also, to anyone asking about Tanaka's vision (like this needs to be said or done) try reading the thread or clicking on the link I'm about to post.

Tanaka's Vision

Take a look and see if there's anything in there Tanaka promised you that you'd rather have than larger monsters.

The bottom line is (for a lot of people) this new battle system we've waited 6 months for better be something, because if it's another broken promise or ridiculous run around, I'm guessing this game is as good as done. Yoshida has yet to produce a vision. He's yet to tell us what he even intends to do with the battle system, though we were promised that we would hear from Akihiko Matsui in the "near future" and that was over a week ago.

Perhaps he means "near future" relative to when the game will be good and not in the general sense of the term, or it was just lost in translation.

I liked where Tanaka was going with this broken piece of crap of a game more than ... the hints and vague comments about where Yoshida is taking it. Trust me, I'm a rampant Tanaka critic. I think he ran XI into the ground for too long and I think he made some pretty giant mistakes with XIV, but when I read about the game he intended to make I like what I read. When I read the game Yoshida intends to make ... oh wait, I haven't read that yet. 5 months and still waiting.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Oh hey you're right, it's actually been in development since 2005 (if publicly announcing a new MMO counts as "development") so it's closer to 5 and a half.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/18/sq...-fantasy-xi-2/

EDIT: As for you Jen

http://www.vg247.com/2010/08/24/ffxi...s-square-enix/

They kinda didn't account for the PS3 not having the memory of a PC? It's probably a memory problem because of how horribly coded it is.

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and besides the engine the game was built on, that this group built, was finished in september 2007. kinda hard to have a game in development on an engine that does not even exist yet. also the 1.0 version of the crystal tools system was not what is even in use in game it was the updated version of that engine the game was built on although i cannot find out what the completion date of version 1.1. i have found the version this game uses was first used in sept 2009, but sure it was completed before then.

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Originally Posted by Shai

People need to learn the definition of trolling. I know what you were replying to. I'm saying, for the time he made XI, that was enough. For XIV, it's not enough. Does that have anything to do with you? If not, why take it personally. It's called having a conversation. I'm adding my thoughts. I'm not attacking you.

Also, to anyone asking about Tanaka's vision (like this needs to be said or done) try reading the thread or clicking on the link I'm about to post.

Tanaka's Vision

Take a look and see if there's anything in there Tanaka promised you that you'd rather have than larger monsters.

The bottom line is (for a lot of people) this new battle system we've waited 6 months for better be something, because if it's another broken promise or ridiculous run around, I'm guessing this game is as good as done. Yoshida has yet to produce a vision. He's yet to tell us what he even intends to do with the battle system, though we were promised that we would hear from Akihiko Matsui in the "near future" and that was over a week ago.

Perhaps he means "near future" relative to when the game will be good and not in the general sense of the term, or it was just lost in translation.

I liked where Tanaka was going with this broken piece of crap of a game more than ... the hints and vague comments about where Yoshida is taking it. Trust me, I'm a rampant Tanaka critic. I think he ran XI into the ground for too long and I think he made some pretty giant mistakes with XIV, but when I read about the game he intended to make I like what I read. When I read the game Yoshida intends to make ... oh wait, I haven't read that yet. 5 months and still waiting.

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Tanaka may have had vision, but vision doesn't make shareholders happy profit does Yoshida's must be to make this game profitable or they might as well shut this down.

Square has made this mistake before Vision VS Profit, with the Spirit within which I think caused there fall thus causing the merge, lets hope they don't drag Enix with them this time. If they do who should they merge with this time.

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Originally Posted by Shai

People need to learn the definition of trolling. I know what you were replying to. I'm saying, for the time he made XI, that was enough. For XIV, it's not enough. Does that have anything to do with you? If not, why take it personally. It's called having a conversation. I'm adding my thoughts. I'm not attacking you.

Also, to anyone asking about Tanaka's vision (like this needs to be said or done) try reading the thread or clicking on the link I'm about to post.

Tanaka's Vision

Take a look and see if there's anything in there Tanaka promised you that you'd rather have than larger monsters.

The bottom line is (for a lot of people) this new battle system we've waited 6 months for better be something, because if it's another broken promise or ridiculous run around, I'm guessing this game is as good as done. Yoshida has yet to produce a vision. He's yet to tell us what he even intends to do with the battle system, though we were promised that we would hear from Akihiko Matsui in the "near future" and that was over a week ago.

Perhaps he means "near future" relative to when the game will be good and not in the general sense of the term, or it was just lost in translation.

I liked where Tanaka was going with this broken piece of crap of a game more than ... the hints and vague comments about where Yoshida is taking it. Trust me, I'm a rampant Tanaka critic. I think he ran XI into the ground for too long and I think he made some pretty giant mistakes with XIV, but when I read about the game he intended to make I like what I read. When I read the game Yoshida intends to make ... oh wait, I haven't read that yet. 5 months and still waiting.

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Yeah, but it wasn't a open conversation. It was me replying to one post informing said poster that Tanaka has played more than just FFXI and FFXIV. You are now going on your own personal rant. Maybe find a comment more related to your agenda. None of what you said even should be a springboard to me saying Tanaka has played Everquest. It will be expected that you will reply with more rants.

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Originally Posted by Joeking

Tanaka may have had vision, but vision doesn't make shareholders happy profit does Yoshida's must be to make this game profitable or they might as well shut this down.

Square has made this mistake before Vision VS Profit, with the Spirit within which I think caused there fall thus causing the merge, lets hope they don't drag Enix with them this time. If they do who should they merge with this time.

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You say that (and that's easy to say) but give me evidence of Yoshida making the game profitable.

Compare and contrast Yoshida's last list to the one I provided. Which one sounds better to you?

Tanaka, Dec 2010 vs Yoshida, Feb 2011

Notice I had to go back to February just to find Yoshida's because it was 5 Letters ago (3 mo ago).
Notice everything in Tanaka's letter would have been done by February (March at the latest) if he'd stayed on.

So all Yoshida's done is work on this battle system, then the battle system better be pretty good - because if it's just XI and/or WoW's battle system slapped together and thrown into XIV, I imagine "shareholders" aren't going to be too happy about that, either.

PS - and by shareholders I mean me.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

Yeah, but it wasn't a open conversation. It was me replying to one post informing said poster that Tanaka has played more than just FFXI and FFXIV. You are now going on your own personal rant. Maybe find a comment more related to your agenda. None of what you said even should be a springboard to me saying Tanaka has played Everquest. It will be expected that you will reply with more rants.

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Did you miss this segue: "Also, to anyone asking about Tanaka's vision"

I'm not ranting. I'm not even talking to you. You corrected someone. Good for you.
Consider my discussion with you over. Feel free to try and antagonize me further.

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Originally Posted by Shai

You say that (and that's easy to say) but give me evidence of Yoshida making the game profitable.

Compare and contrast Yoshida's last list to the one I provided. Which one sounds better to you?

Tanaka, Dec 2010 vs Yoshida, Feb 2011

Notice I had to go back to February just to find Yoshida's because it was 5 Letters ago (3 mo ago).
Notice everything in Tanaka's letter would have been done by February (March at the latest) if he'd stayed on.

So all Yoshida's done is work on this battle system, then the battle system better be pretty good - because if it's just XI and/or WoW's battle system slapped together and thrown into XIV, I imagine "shareholders" aren't going to be too happy about that, either.

PS - and by shareholders I mean me.

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Buhahahaha someone must forget about what Tanaka really did... ALL THE TIME IN FFXI! Oh look at all this stuff I am promising, date passes, we don't see product, 6 years later, we still don't see product... man Tanaka what a great vision of lieing to your users.... and then He doesn't even mention those promises ever again hoping we forget about it... and we don't and he doesn't come through for us...

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Originally Posted by Shai

Did you miss this segue: "Also, to anyone asking about Tanaka's vision"

I'm not ranting. I'm not even talking to you. You corrected someone. Good for you.
Consider my discussion with you over. Feel free to try and antagonize me further.

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lol then why quote me? You are weird. Like a screw it loose. Ah, well. XD

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sweet ^^

So much rage in your posts... u mad bro?

Btw, I know this might be hard to accept but... Tanaka's vision ended the minute the game was released. Everything you see on that list is an attempt to fix errors done 1-2 months prior. It's no longer a vision so much as it is a restoration effort.

Secondly, the reason Yoshi-P decided to work on combat was because of the player poll... Remember when we, the players, voted and said that was the most important thing to fix/rehaul? Selective memory is cool.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

Buhahahaha someone must forget about what Tanaka really did... ALL THE TIME IN FFXI! Oh look at all this stuff I am promising, date passes, we don't see product, 6 years later, we still don't see product... man Tanaka what a great vision of lieing to your users.... and then He doesn't even mention those promises ever again hoping we forget about it... and we don't and he doesn't come through for us...

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Sure, but look at what I linked and look at the "December" portion. Were any of that lies? I also said "no later than March" which gives him the benefit of having a quarter of a year to get it together rather than 2 months. How many times has Tanaka said "I'll get you something" and then didn't. I can think of 1-2 times in XI explicitly. How many can you think of and name?

Yes, he lied about things he could have done but didn't want to (for some reason). I'm not saying he didn't mess up, or that he didn't break promises. He did. But everything on that list on the December side was in this game before Yoshida took the reigns... and everything after it (unless he was setting up Yoshida to look the fool) has nearly been forgotten or pushed off to some unknown date and time, so Yoshida can "fix" systems without telling us how or when he plans to do so.

Tanaka has some serious bad things about him. I'm asking which of the two lists I gave you sounds better. It's not a loaded question. You already know which I think is better. Tell me honestly, which YOU Yoshida fans think looks better.

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Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

So much rage in your posts... u mad bro?

Btw, I know this might be hard to accept but... Tanaka's vision ended the minute the game was released. Everything you see on that list is an attempt to fix errors done 1-2 months prior. It's no longer a vision so much as it is a restoration effort.

Secondly, the reason Yoshi-P decided to work on combat was because of the player poll... Remember when we, the players, voted and said that was the most important thing to fix/rehaul? Selective memory is cool.

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You mean when an overwhelming 40% voted we wanted more story content? More quests and lore? That they wanted more content added to the game? Battle came in 2nd and I realize developmentally why Battle takes precedence. I've had this same conversation over and over. Page 8 of this thread is like a rehash of 1-3. Read some of my earlier posts.

It's right here: First Producer Letter

Note: Battle is #2. Content is #1. Story content specifically.

Yoshida.... all the way, he said he going to implement what Tanaka's projects first along with his own... It's going to take awhile because he is trying to make it optimized as well.... It will take awhile, that is why he, Yoshida has not promised us dates.... Tanaka promised us a complete product at release in all his interviews for a year A YEAR!!!! and what did he have to show for it.... Look at this pretty, laggy, empty, only leve's and a few quests to do, game... HAVE FUN!!! I think he knew he was already getting the axe before any of us did and just stopped caring.