Glaring issues that were NOT addressed in 2.1

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Originally Posted by Siven

2. I have literally never repaired my own gear, despite always having dark matter and the ability to do so. There is NO reason to repair gear, it is such an inconvenience that whatever negligible amount of gil is saved is worthless.

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I didn't originally as well but once you get multiply classes up to 50 the repairs will get costly and while I still find the self-repairs a bit cumbersome (especially since that idiotic "update" of the armory where the majority of the gear is now greyed out beyond recognition - what moron thought of that? why can't we keep the original red / green crosses as before??) the savings between 60 - 75 percent on repair costs (if you purchase dark matter from NPC) or even more if you purchase Dark Matter using your spare GC seals made me to change the mind plus "convenience" of being able to repair anytime & anywhere (asuming you carry enough dark matter) is IMO ballancing out the inconvenience of changing the classes to be able to repair. The saving on the cost of repair will add quickly over the time.

That said - I'd still welcome the option to be able to repair without need to change to the respective crafting class - you can still dissallow the repairs in the dungeons to keep it same as now as you can't change classes there.

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Originally Posted by HEC

especially since that idiotic "update" of the armory where the majority of the gear is now greyed out beyond recognition - what moron thought of that? why can't we keep the original red / green crosses as before??

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I much prefer this change. It is far, far easier to tell which equipment I can use on my current class when the items that can't be equipped are greyed out, as opposed to just having a different icon on them. The green and red crosses are still there and represent that your current class can't equip that item but at least one of your other classes can (green cross,) none of your classes can equip that item (red cross,) or your class can currently equip that item (no cross.) I can't stress enough how much easier it is to manage my armoury inventory now compared to before, and that's not even taking into account the ability to sort it and the gear set icon.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Hey all,

The team has also been looking into a better incorporation of Chocobo Companions including allowing you to register for Duty Finder while having your companion out, as well as riding your companion while he's called. While the timing for these hasn't been decided we'll keep you aware when we hear more.

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The chocobo improvements are much needed and greatly appreciated. I
Are the chocobos getting any content like quests, gear story or anything to make the grind worth it?

I LOVE the idea behind companions but they really aren't needed for anything at the moment.

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Originally Posted by HEC

the savings between 60 - 75 percent on repair costs (if you purchase dark matter from NPC).

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It's basically like this. A Tier 5 item at 60% will cost 80 gil to repair at the NPC. G5 Dark Matter is 80 gil as well. That's the break even point. That same item at 20% costs 160 gil. Yet still only 80 for Dark Matter.

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Originally Posted by Meimei

Ability to track/untrack quests, anyone?

It's one of the most basic MMO features of all time, why is it still not in this game?

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This ^^^ Plus only displaying quests for the class/job you are currently playing. That goes for tracking and map markers please !!!

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

Whether you have a player skipping the cutscene by pressing escape or because he has them disabled in an option makes _ZERO_ difference on newer players being targeted. Look, I was level 50 within the first two weeks of launch, and when I did my Castridium/Praetorium, I had people yelling at me to skip cutscenes (and missed a few bosses). Since they designed the game where you have to finish the story to reach end-game content, they NEED players at the level cap to queue for these dungeons. And forcing them to manually skip cutscenes every 5 minutes isn't a good way to entice people to help newer players finish their storyline.

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And this is what they're doing with the Duty Roulette. Since the changes to Wanderer's Palace dropping mythology, and the discovery of WP speed runs, CM/Prae are barren places now. People would go there simply for spiritbonding. DR is supposed to help inject life to these places, so people can finish their storyline quests too.

Yelling at people to stop watching cutscenes would stop when cutscenes are no longer skippable. They will probably complain about that, but they can't force people to skip cutscenes, when they can't skip it themselves.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

Hell no it wouldn't. I would seriously never queue Cast/Prae again if I was forced to click through 5-10 minute long cutscenes, effectively doubling the place's length. A better option is making it so players can't be kicked from a dungeon if it's their first time clearing it.

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This is mainly my gripe with the new Duty Roulette: Main Scenario too. They advertise gil and 200 Philo stones reward for queueing for one of these 2. Any player who wants these rewards really expect to just clear the dungeon in 20 minutes, get out and have their reward. They don't give 2 hoots about the actual intention of the DR - to help the newer players. Newer players be damned, I just want my 200 Philos. I can't care less if they're unhappy for me forcing them to skip their cutscenes. This is unfortunately how the MMO community is - nobody has time for newer players, nobody has time to wipe and learn fights together, and everyone just makes ridiculous expecations for their parties. I doubt there's anyone out there who sincerely wants to help new players in these dungeons, and let them watch their cutscenes. I for one would let them watch their cutscenes, but chances are unless the other tank is someone like me, you can expect the newer players to get left behind, since these dungeons can be tanked by 1 man anyway.

It also does not help with the new player's immersion. They can't be kicked and that's fine (kicking for "being new" or "watching cutscenes" is against the ToS anyway), but they can still be left behind, not able to enjoy the boss fights, not knowing what's going on.

Just to state this, even WoW didn't have meaningful stats on the character sheet in the beginning. it was overwhelming use of player ui that caused that change in WoW and it will probably follow suit here when we get custom ui.

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Originally Posted by juniglee

This is mainly my gripe with the new Duty Roulette: Main Scenario too. They advertise gil and 200 Philo stones reward for queueing for one of these 2. Any player who wants these rewards really expect to just clear the dungeon in 20 minutes, get out and have their reward.

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You are looking at this entirely the wrong way. The DF is there for one purpose only - to put bodies in the queue for dungeons/scenarios people aren't queueing for so they can be completed and progress the storyline/reach endgame content.

If you are looking for a group to do the storyline and be able to watch all the cutscenes as you progress, you already have an option for that - the Party Finder. Make a group, check the box that says no cutscene skipping, and summarize what you are looking for. It will take longer than just queuing the DF, but that's the price you pay for having overgeared players help you breeze through it.

Trying to somehow force charity by penalizing players repeating content is the worst possible approach - and don't forget that there are full groups in DF Cast/Prae that aren't even there for the storyline. I guess it's cool to punish them just because they need philosophy.

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Originally Posted by Nica

nothing about the music? at this point I've heard the battle theme so many times that I actively despise that piece of music now.

And I'm reminded of that fact every time I hear the brief zone/dungeon music, which only makes me hate the battle theme even more, it's like having a mp3 player full of great music that refuses to play anything other than "it's a small world".

Repeatedly.

Forever and ever.

Even after you're reduced to a shell of a man, curled up in fetal position in the corner while mumbling pleas for it to end.

...even if you know it won't.

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Well the open world battle theme was designed to be the same everywhere I think...except it adopts instruments that kind of coincide with the normal background music of the area you're in.

As far as Dungeons go...yeah I wish the opening music would loop. I'm happy the Hard Mode dungeons have the original music that blends together between passive and active modes so well. Love it.

What's wrong with "It's a Small World!?"
And if you don't like it why is it on your mp3 player? :p

I'm kind of reluctant to suggest this, as housing is ridiculously priced and out of reach of most players, but it would be cool if the implemented the option to build repair stations for your property.

I was thinking, if you had the station, you could click on it and just repair the stuff you have the ability to repair based on your craft level, without the tediousness of changing jobs. While you're locked in, people can click on it and sent you repair requests.

I was trying to think of a similar function for crafting where you would be able to access your retainers inventory too, but I don't know how that could work with the different gear you would have for different crafting jobs and such. Would be nice though.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

4. Chocobo companions are beyond useless. They steal EXP, they are terrible at all their roles, and they are a logistical nightmare once they are summoned (you can't mount, you can't queue for anything, etc). They take forever to level, and you can only kill open world mobs with them - which are already mind numbingly easy even at 50. And once you level your chocobo, all you can do with it is...kill more world mobs? Why bother?


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Chocobos are only as good as the person controlling them. There are commands, if you use them, they can be very good healers, and tanks. I have 2 rank 6. One tank, one healer. Love them both.

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Originally Posted by juniglee

And this is what they're doing with the Duty Roulette. Since the changes to Wanderer's Palace dropping mythology, and the discovery of WP speed runs, CM/Prae are barren places now. People would go there simply for spiritbonding. DR is supposed to help inject life to these places, so people can finish their storyline quests too.

Yelling at people to stop watching cutscenes would stop when cutscenes are no longer skippable. They will probably complain about that, but they can't force people to skip cutscenes, when they can't skip it themselves.

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If CS cannot be skipped, I can really foresee people queuing CM/Prae will drop drastically. The 200 Phil is not worth is if you are forced to watch every CS, getting a group together and SR some would be much better if that is the case. People will do whatever is fastest for them to get what they want, not what is the nicest to people around them.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Hey all,

We brought up some of the issues raised in this thread and wanted to share the responses with you now:

In regards to showing the chance for critical hits, the team remarked that there are currently no plans to display this in the UI. Players can assume simply that as the stats that affect this grow larger, the effect will become greater.

The team is currently looking into an option to "skip all" cutscenes. The team has also been looking into a better incorporation of Chocobo Companions including allowing you to register for Duty Finder while having your companion out, as well as riding your companion while he's called. While the timing for these hasn't been decided we'll keep you aware when we hear more.

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Wow, this type of feedback from the development team has destroyed any hope i had left.

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Originally Posted by Bankai305

Wow, this type of feedback from the development team has destroyed any hope i had left.

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Ps3 limitations!

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Originally Posted by juniglee

I really hope I am the only one who is unhappy with this pending change.

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You are not o;
I can understand people wanting to skip cutscenes, like a party of free company people that have already done it maybe a hundred times, but the ability to leave someone behind just because it is their first time viewing the cutscene is ridiculous. To suggest one way according to another game, players engaged in cutscenes in a group basis. All players had to be present in an area to start a cutscene. All players were invincible during cutscenes. All players had to agree to skip. If say 3 of 4 people skipped, those 3 would have to wait before regaining control. It's so frustrating to see a cutscene for the first time...only for it to end and be left out of the boss fight .-.
Maybe FF14 could do it by simply not spawning the boss until all party members are not in "Viewing Cutscene" mode?

Edit: I am not against end game players wanting to repeat content a hundred times as fast as possible, but for dungeons from 1-50 that are required by the story line the least that could be done is a way to make people wait on those that actually want to see the story....

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Hey all,

We brought up some of the issues raised in this thread and wanted to share the responses with you now:

In regards to showing the chance for critical hits, the team remarked that there are currently no plans to display this in the UI. Players can assume simply that as the stats that affect this grow larger, the effect will become greater.

The team is currently looking into an option to "skip all" cutscenes. The team has also been looking into a better incorporation of Chocobo Companions including allowing you to register for Duty Finder while having your companion out, as well as riding your companion while he's called. While the timing for these hasn't been decided we'll keep you aware when we hear more.

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On that note..

Let us summon pets during dungeons/trials/everywhere :\

Whs t about the fact that you can no longer manually add people to your Friends List whilst they are in an instance. Now we have to wait till they are out of that instance. Please revert back. Why take away the conveniences?

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Originally Posted by Firesped

Just to state this, even WoW didn't have meaningful stats on the character sheet in the beginning. it was overwhelming use of player ui that caused that change in WoW and it will probably follow suit here when we get custom ui.

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Yes, and it was used overwhelmingly because it was useful!
At least Blizzard acknowledged that showing players actual stats is helpful. This is just basic stuff that FFXIV should have had from the beginning. Giving us insulting answers when requesting this simple change certainly doesn't help either.

For the love of god, the battle bgm and lack of music has been suggested since ALPHA stages. Drop Soken or tell him to make actual bgm and not some 30 second intro track!

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Originally Posted by Duelle

That said, my point was actually that by being obscure (as put by Ildur), the devs are also giving themselves room to scale and balance boss and special mobs separate from normal mobs and thus requiring different stat caps from players. It also means the devs may be using different rules for said mobs vs normal mobs.

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Well if something like that is the case they could at least gave an explanation along those lines.

Something informative like "We decided not to display crit % because it functions in a dynamic, situational manner that would be difficult to display in reasonably accurate way" instead of a patronizing "Nah, we're not going to do that. But good news: if you put more of that stat in your character it go up!"

I'm hoping that in the future there will be a - Chocobo Dungeon where we can bring in ours and level them up for faster exp. Right now it's just depressingly long lol.

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Originally Posted by Grefia

Chocobos are only as good as the person controlling them. There are commands, if you use them, they can be very good healers, and tanks. I have 2 rank 6. One tank, one healer. Love them both.

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This is a joke, right?

I have a rank 6 DPS one - and he does pitiful damage when I farm high level mobs. He functions as a melee, and he's as slow as he is stupid. 99% of the time I kill the mob as a Bard before he even reaches the target and gets his first DoT up.

As for tanking, you must be doing pitiful damage, because there's no way he can keep up with the burst of _any_ of the DPS classes.

Healing? Wait, you need heals to kill anything in the world? I suppose the healing chocobo has the potential to be the most useful to eliminate downtime when farming, but having farmed as 3 different DPS classes, enemies die too fast and you regen too much inbetween combat for a healing chocobo to make any difference.

I use them, if you want to move from town to town they are a lot cheaper than teleporting. And as most of my gil is vanishing into repairs and DoH equipment at the moment, I am being a cheapskate and use the airships ;)

That said, an option to skip already seen cutscenes would be a nice thing.

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Originally Posted by Obreck

Well if something like that is the case they could at least gave an explanation along those lines.

Something informative like "We decided not to display crit % because it functions in a dynamic, situational manner that would be difficult to display in reasonably accurate way" instead of a patronizing "Nah, we're not going to do that. But good news: if you put more of that stat in your character it go up!"

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I'll agree with this.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

This is a joke, right?

*snip*

Healing? Wait, you need heals to kill anything in the world? I suppose the healing chocobo has the potential to be the most useful to eliminate downtime when farming, but having farmed as 3 different DPS classes, enemies die too fast and you regen too much inbetween combat for a healing chocobo to make any difference.

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They are great for leveling companions, my wife and I duo with ours out and alternate them between dps and healer as needed (typically only need healer for fates where we pull a bit too much aggro lol) You need to take your "at endgame" tunnel vision off I think. Are fates or leve's useless? No; they are a leveling tool, consider chocobo's as more than just a tool to help you farm stuff on your geared out lvl 50 job. Or would future adjustments to leve's and fates be a waste also?

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

This is a joke, right?
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he does pitiful damage
he's as slow as he is stupid.
As for tanking, you must be doing pitiful damage
Healing? Wait, you need heals to kill anything in the world?

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You are comparing chocobo skill to your own. They are not intended to out-dps you. They are tools to assist. And they do that very well. As for pitiful DPS.. lol I'm a healer. If it is a fate boss I'm trying to solo, it takes a while, but I can usually manage just fine. On my dps, I use chocobo as healer only. But at 50, you don't really need them for anything other than fate bosses (and occasionally, treasure chests.) I think they are more helpful to your alternate classes as you level them. Having a rank 6 at level 10 is OP. Since I am leveling all of the classes, the chocobo makes it go much faster. But again, if your chocobo sucks.... Look at your skills to control him. You can make him move out of aoe. You can make him switch targets... Or if you don't like him, don't use him.

Oh, another thing chocobos are good for! Ever been out gathering and noticed no one was farming those boarskins? Smack them with your hatchet once, then let choco kill them while you continue gathering. lol

I posted our concerns in this thread to the Live Letter topic here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...neral%29/page3

Please go there and Like the questions so Yoshi P is more likely to answer/respond to them.

1 has merit but as several have mentioned it's just how square does things and tbh doesn't bother me too much (though in regards to the pvp bard thing I do think they should let the bards know). %s for crit/block/parry/dodge while nice aren't necessary to do your job.


2,3,4 FULLY agree. For the chocos I would say they do their jobs fine but not being able to mount (even if for RP purposes we use a non choco mount), no queue, and the fact that they are totally pointless (due to having no "difficult" content at 50 in open world) makes me agree overall

Skipping cutscenes yes I wish it was an option (just give us a toggle on the duty finder that way if were queueing for something new we check it off and huzzah) the music portion /shrug I played EQ for 15 years with the same battle music it's all the same to me.

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Originally Posted by Grefia

You are comparing chocobo skill to your own. They are not intended to out-dps you. They are tools to assist. And they do that very well. As for pitiful DPS.. lol I'm a healer. If it is a fate boss I'm trying to solo, it takes a while, but I can usually manage just fine. On my dps, I use chocobo as healer only. But at 50, you don't really need them for anything other than fate bosses (and occasionally, treasure chests.) I think they are more helpful to your alternate classes as you level them. Having a rank 6 at level 10 is OP. Since I am leveling all of the classes, the chocobo makes it go much faster. But again, if your chocobo sucks.... Look at your skills to control him. You can make him move out of aoe. You can make him switch targets... Or if you don't like him, don't use him.

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I will admit, my DPS chocobo has been useful for doing higher level enemies in the Hunting Log when I've been grinding other classes, but that's where his usefulness ended. For fates, chocobos are still not a good use of a party slot because they still leech mob exp and a human player is better.

I'd like to see one of two things done with chocobos - make them equivalent to a player and allow them to actually fill roles in groups (and even DF). Or leave them as they are but allow them to be summoned without taking up a group slot (like current Arcanist pets).

Wow, I thought more crit meant your crit % goes down. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

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Originally Posted by Peptaru

If it doesn't make it simpler, heading toward too simple which I already think it is but give others the benefit of the doubt for, then why are people asking for it cuz it would make things simpler? Your logic eludes me.

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It doesn't necessarily make it simpler, but does tell you when you make a gear choice that has no substantial benefit. Good example is these 2 quotes.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

...and when you have no idea if 11 determination is better than 11 skill speed, it becomes frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

It is blatantly obvious, if you can do any sort of math whatsoever, that 11 determination is better than 11 skill speed.

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Squenix has always had their stats break off into tiers and don't have gradual increases in small numbers. In this case if 11 determination doesn't increase the total to the next % breakpoint but the 11 skill speed does then the skill speed actually has a benefit since the 11 determination will have no effect on actual damage dealt. If both raise the value high enough for another % then the determination wins, and if neither raises it then it's up in the air. It does no one any good just giving us a bulk number when I can obviously use a calculator and add them up myself. What I want to see is whether I can get another % increase in a stat without having to put the new item on and beat on a training dummy with a parser for an hour.

Squee, why can't we see the boss's HP in a numerical percentage?

WHY? WHY?!

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Squee, why can't we see the boss's HP in a numerical percentage?

WHY? WHY?!

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Innovation!

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Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden

Simpler.

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Like I said, simpler. Thank you :)

Whats sad is several of these features were present in alpha. Originally you could select which quests you could track, or track none at all. They dropped that in beta 3 I believe. The chat transparency was an option in alpha as well. Also in beta 3 I recall Yoshi mentioned the ability to party for story missions, but that never happened. They have removed a lot of features that were available in early builds, features that players want, which truly boggles the mind.

In regards to showing percentages for stats, there is no technological or even logical reason to not do this. Even in a dynamic system there is a predictable algorithm at work. The game has a function say f(x) = pLvl +acc -MobLvel, where the output is the hit percent.Note that is probably not the hit percent function. In reality a player only cares about their ability to affect a change on a target their level or higher. A lvl 50 would never care about their ability to crit a lvl 1 marmot. EQ2 understood this in 2007 and their stats said chance to do x on y lvl target.

There are features from 1.0 that should return, list based inventory for example. Managing a 120 slot inventory of icons is a pain in the ass, especially when you have 12 raw xxx along with rocksalt and xxxstone, that all look alike. Having to hover over the icon to see what it is is tiresome.

To address the cut scene skipping. Auto skip is a must. I have yet to see a convincing argument against this. Many do not care if a player wants to watch it. I personally grew tired of them after seeing them once. Sure people may vote kick over it, but people are just as likely to vote kick because someone has yellow hair or a silly name. The logic that everyone must watch or stop a run because someone has yet to see them is just silly. People will either wait or they wont, giving an auto skip option will not change that. If anything forcing players to watch them every time is more likely to cause players to choose not to run heavy cut scene zones.

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Originally Posted by Jonjon

Sure people may vote kick over it, but people are just as likely to vote kick because someone has yellow hair or a silly name. The logic...

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The juxtaposition of a discussion of logic following the most illogical thing in this thread is not wasted on me, well done sir or madame! 8/10!

If you were serious, you should maybe remove the part where you try to discuss logic after such an illogical statement.

I added a 7th. I can't believe I forgot about the awful tab targeting that still hasn't been fixed or addressed.

and who still believe in Yoshi? lmao i mean the game is getting worse and worse the lag havent improve at all Odin/Behen had crash the server multiple times and they havent fix it. they decided to create 2.0 with more errors then it used to be in 1.X. to also add the journal u only can have the last 5 quest u have accept but it doesnt let u put new ones if u dont go and turn them in? it was in BETA and they took that off? how i see this game going instead of going up it keep going down

What I can definitely agree with, there are WAY too many reasons to be in a Duty now in 2.1, than there was in 2.0. That's a good thing, but being restricted from doing things, ESPECIALLY sending private messages to others while in them is simply retarded. I go into a Duty, suddenly I need to send a private message to a friend about something. The Duty takes 40 minutes to an hour+ to complete, especially if it's CT. Suddenly I'm out of the Duty, but now the person I'm trying to contact is in a Duty because it took me so long to get out. Now I'm standing there doing nothing because everything I need to do for the week is inside of a Duty, waiting on this person to get out. Suddenly just to send a single god damn PM, I gotta wait 2 hours.

There is just no reason for this at all. If the excuse is "We don't want people bothering you while you're on duty", then you may as well disable FC and LS chats as well.