So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

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Isn't this is what you have been promoting?
I am just going to get my pop corn and diet coke ready for tear flooding this forum once the feature is installed
/sunglass

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Partially, yes. But here's the thing, we don't know specifics. As we have seen from NUMEROUS game promotions, any idea can be presented in a way that will cause hype... but what the actual implementation of that idea and the hype surrounding it may be two very different things.

For all we know, this lotto could really be an auto allocation system based upon neighborhood and house type, and you enter the queue and eventually get your house and it happens to be called a "lotto".

We simply do not have enough information at this time.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

We all know how a lotto works we don't need it explained its not complicated. Has been said already you have been warned enjoy the Lynch mob :D

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Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

https://media.tenor.co/images/d270f8...94ee1fa039/raw

Tbh, this set of changes raises more questions than it does provide answers as (again) we need more information. Specifically:

• Does the lotto system come with the abolition of the flip timer?
• Are they going to split the FC and personal houses by cloning all the wards, deleting the duplicate FC houses out of one set (making it personal house only) while doing the same for personal houses (making it FC only) in the other set?
• Are we going to have wards that are mixed, FC only, and personal only moving forward?
• How does buying a lotto ticket work?
• Can I buy more than one lotto ticket for a house?
• Will I expect to see a refund of some kind from the lotto system?

As I have been saying throughout this thread, the chicken little overreaction to Yoshi-P mentioning housing is completely unwarranted because all he's effectively said is "things will change" and we don't have any additional data (or if there is, please link it).

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Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

https://media.tenor.co/images/d270f8...94ee1fa039/raw

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Yep, That's Right play dumb early and play dumb loudly. Wont save you just like it has not saved from your past support of bad idea's.

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Yep, That's Right play dumb early and play dumb loudly. Wont save you just like it has not saved from your past support of bad idea's.

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You know I'm pointing at the truth, and you can't handle it, so you're gonna blame me for all of the game's problems instead of facing that truth: You are reacting to almost no information with emotionally driven panic instead of thinking critically about what has been said.

I'll continue to make suggestions, and we'll see how it goes. That's how a growth mindset works.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

You know I'm pointing at the truth, and you can't handle it, so you're gonna blame me for all of the game's problems instead of facing that truth: You are reacting to almost no information with emotionally driven panic instead of thinking critically about what has been said.

I'll continue to make suggestions, and we'll see how it goes. That's how a growth mindset works.

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Lol My responses are far from emotion driven :P we know how a lotto works you are ignoring that for a dream land idea it will be something different. But hey you are under the belief that rng deciding who out of the 100's if not 1000's of players per world. Will get one of the small number of homes that are up for sale will make things better. Well then not even Spock from Star trek could fix your Illogical thought process.

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Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

https://media.tenor.co/images/d270f8...94ee1fa039/raw

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"Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame. Wonder who's going to be front and center? Those in support of a lottery system. lol Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!

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Lol My responses are far from emotion driven :P we know how a lotto works you are ignoring that for a dream land idea it will be something different. But hey you are under the belief that rng deciding who out of the 100's if not 1000's of players per world. Will get one of the small number of homes that are up for sale will make things better. Well then not even Spock from Star trek could fix your Illogical thought process.

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Nah, Spock would be too mentally damaged to be considered Vulcan after looking at yours first =P

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"Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame. Wonder who's going to be front and center? Those in support of a lottery system. lol Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!

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They will learn the hard way and be wiser or continue down the road of not listening.

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"Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame.

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Nothing new there... the weak will always blame someone else rather than be introspective.

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Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!

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The complete lack of information on what SE is doing with regards to supply opens up an entire spectrum of possibility. On one end of the spectrum, if nothing is done to address the housing supply issues then the lotto will definitely make things worse.

However, it may end up being a wash if (for example) SE also does the following with the update:

• Each ward gets 20 wards that are personal house only, and another 10 that are FC only
• Island Sanctuaries is a strictly better replacement for gardening
• Players get a workshop through Garlond Ironworks that is an exact duplicate of the FC workshop

The point here is that we don't know, and the more measured (and mature) response is "what was said on the live stream is interesting, but we need more information" rather than the hysterical reactions many have posted on this thread.

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They will learn the hard way and be wiser or continue down the road of not listening.

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You should learn one truth: The first truth you must learn to be wise is "I know nothing". Only once you understand what you do (and do not) know, only then will you gain wisdom.

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The complete lack of information on what SE is doing with regards to supply opens up an entire spectrum of possibility. On one end of the spectrum, if nothing is done to address the housing supply issues then the lotto will definitely make things worse.

However, it may end up being a wash if (for example) SE also does the following with the update:

• Each ward gets 20 wards that are personal house only, and another 10 that are FC only
• Island Sanctuaries is a strictly better replacement for gardening
• Players get a workshop through Garlond Ironworks that is an exact duplicate of the FC workshop

The point here is that we don't know, and the more measured (and mature) response is "what was said on the live stream is interesting, but we need more information" rather than the hysterical reactions many have posted on this thread.

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You know, I tend to find myself on the opposing side of your takes regarding housing more often than not, but...this is fair. More than fair. I've already judged it and my opinion probably won't change unless they actually do the unexpected and address the supply issue. Past experience has taught me that they probably won't. Will they this time? Like you said, we don't know. I suppose taking the wait and see approach is best regardless of how anyone feels about a lottery system. I am, however, extremely confident in my personal take on the situation.

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You should learn one truth: The first truth you must learn to be wise is "I know nothing". Only once you understand what you do (and do not) know, only then will you gain wisdom.

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Drop the truth garbage look at your reply to Vahlnir and waste some brain cells on it as you just pointed out what we know and you don't.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Drop the truth garbage look at your reply to Vahlnir and waste some brain cells on it as you just pointed out what we know and you don't.

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They aren't completely wrong though. We don't know everything. I'm pretty sure we can guess what the outcome will be, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. At best...maybe 98.9%. :p

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They aren't completely wrong though. We don't know everything. I'm pretty sure we can guess what the outcome will be, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. At best...maybe 98.9%. :p

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We don't know which is right but its also obvious. Lotto system would not be needed if they could meet demand. Only promise a lotto system makes is you will get a house when rng decides be that a day, a month or 2 years down the road.

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We don't know which is right but its also obvious. Lotto system would not be needed if they could meet demand...

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Right, so here we are back at the beginning of this vicious cycle. lol Past experience has dictated that they won't do anything, but we don't know if they will do anything or not this time because it's a brand new system we know almost nothing about. However, they have done nothing to alleviate the actual problem so far, so...back to the start and it begins again. All signs point toward complacency, but we don't know enough yet. My head hurts.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Look at the Cacpot its a lottery and their are players who have played it daily since release and never won the jack pot. Ask yourselves do you want that kind of absurd rng choosing who gets a house?? I don't..

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I know I don't. lol

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Right, so here we are back at the beginning of this vicious cycle. lol Past experience has dictated that they won't do anything, but we don't know if they will do anything or not this time because it's a brand new system we know almost nothing about. However, they have done nothing to alleviate the actual problem so far, so...back to the start and it begins again. All signs point toward complacency, but we don't know enough yet. My head hurts.

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I speak from a personal perspective I have a fc and personal yet still search for empty plots. Partly for fun and for some friends. Here on Lamia I have seen at best in one week maybe 15 total plots open. Now thinking about how many FC's wants homes how many players want personals...then throwing the idea of letting a lotto decide. Pure cringe, This hole thing is like trying to squeeze a square peg in a round hole..

Look at the Cacpot its a lottery and their are players who have played it daily since release and never won the jack pot. Ask yourselves do you want that kind of absurd rng choosing who gets a house?? I don't..

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You have yet to explain why bot operators would want a house when that represents millions of gil they could be selling to players.

You also seem to forget you can't just push out a stream of level 1 bots to buy a ticket. Any character still needs to meet purchase eligibility requirements including the deposit fee for the plot, which we assume will be the plot purchase price (it wouldn't make sense to bother with a deposit fee if it wasn't).

Is some bot operator going to tie up over 3 billion gil for the sake of getting a single house? Of course not. They're going to be selling that gil for real money.

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More thoughts about the mentioned changes, this time with respect to house flipping.

FC wards - house flipping will continue whether FCFS or lottery. Those who want to buy the house would be buying the FC.

Private wards - house flipping will run rampant in the FCFS wards if there is no purchase timer. House flipping might be killed in the lotttery wards depending on relocation rules.

If relocation can bypass the lottery, then there will be house flipping to relocators. If it can't, then flipping would be effectively killed in the private wards. There would be no way to bypass the lottery.

I don't see flippers resorting to selling their service accounts as a way to sell private houses because most players would want the house on the character they already have. I suppose it's still possible in the case of a player who sees owning a large house as the ultimate prestige item to show off (they could always rename/Fantasia the character to their liking after purchase) but I would put it at extremely unlikely.

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Yeah that's not very well thought through counter argument, agreed. If they go with a lotto system, I would hope there would be something in place to recognize a ticket holder has already purchased multiple homes in the past and disqualify them. (Though this would have to flag an account rather than just a character. Flippers would just delete and recreate characters.) But only for FC housing, which is the primary method of reselling houses atm since placard timers make it so you can't demo to let someone else purchase the plot.

Housing hoarders do this as well. I know of one person who has bought up 25+ FC houses on 4 different Crystal DC so far. Mostly in the last month and a half and likely will go for more. And SE just turns a blind eye to this sort of thing.

Also they didn't mention relocating at all. Which is the *second* way resellers are continuing operations. They buy up mediums, larges and small properties that are desirable, then sell relocations into those plots (and relocate into an open plot, taking it from people who are already there clicking).

So honestly, I'm waiting to see how they plan to do this before I decide how to feel about it.

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Ask yourselves do you want that kind of absurd rng choosing who gets a house?? I don't..

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And how do you know we're going to have absurd RNG with choosing a house?

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Housing hoarders do this as well. I know of one person who has bought up 25+ FC houses on 4 different Crystal DC so far. Mostly in the last month and a half and likely will go for more. And SE just turns a blind eye to this sort of thing.

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Throwing some numbers out there, just make all house owners pay upkeep costs of like 50k gil/week for each small personal house, 100k gil/week for a medium personal house, 200k gil/week for a large personal house, or 1M gil/week for a small FC house, 2M gil/week for medium FC house, or 3M gil/week for a large FC house. If they can figure out how to pay those costs for all the houses they own, the can keep them. If they can't, that's their problem.

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And how do you know we're going to have absurd RNG with choosing a house?

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*facepalm* Lottery=rng Next ignoranace loaded question please

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*facepalm* Lottery=rng Next ignoranace loaded question please

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Quit dodging the question. How do you know it's going to be absurd RNG and not something that's just meh RNG?

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Quit dodging the question. How do you know it's going to be absurd RNG and not something that's just meh RNG?

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Rng is Rng and rng gets worse the more variables you have. "here's your sign" - Bill Engval

Explain how RNG of a lottery system is going to fix housing? Explain how its going to ensure players who have waited years are not going to get screwed and watch it give a house to someone who has only played 6 months? Explain how its going to keep things fair for all players no matter how long they have played? Give every player assurance they will get a house so long as they meet the requirements, Assure them rng in your beloved lottery wont screw them over for months or years. Lets see the big witty brain of truth you got answer all this.

No excuses, No saying you have no clue or don't know, no saying SE needs to figure it out. You been pushing this idea now make players believe its a good idea show them all that Hype you have for it. Time to step up and address the cons of a lottery system and ease people concerns.

Here's and idea that's been presented before pro's and cons. WAIT LIST!!

You put your name on the list. Players near the top get offered any homes that are up and then it moves down the list from there.
Pros
No random selection
No Concern if someone has more gil then you
No wondering if you will ever get a home
You are assured a house soon as you are close enough to the top. If there are 5 homes up then the top 5 players get them and the list moves down.

Cons-
Have to wait your turn
First come first serve on the list
No promise you will get the plot and size you want. Size can be fixed with a size selection. Plot just got to live..

Few other things about it that need to be addressed but its better then a lottery where you don't know the outcome..But if you like the idea of a 6 month old player getting a house first try after you have tried 105 times..enjoy your punishment.

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Honestly this will back fire hard. people might think it sounds cool at first but you can all but guarantee that it wont take long before people are crying at the fact they never win.. seeing threads crop up like i bought lotto tickets on 50 plots and have lost every time this suxxxx

i honestly think its a stupid idea becasue the reality is it doesnt do anything.. and ets be real it SE.

people are going pickfault with the implementation no matter how they do it...

the super rich people can buy 50 tickets.... i can barely afford one..
the super rich people can bid on 50 different plots. i can barely afford one...

or if your only allowed 1 bid. it'll be i put a bid in on this small plot but this medium plot became available and now i cant bidon that plot..

no matter how they do it it won'tfix anything

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People have tried to warn the community about the flaws of a lotto system. But people are desperate and some got their fingers shoved in their ears going LALALALA. I am just going to sit back and enjoy the fireworks and mountains of salt.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

Throwing some numbers out there, just make all house owners pay upkeep costs of like 50k gil/week for each small personal house, 100k gil/week for a medium personal house, 200k gil/week for a large personal house, or 1M gil/week for a small FC house, 2M gil/week for medium FC house, or 3M gil/week for a large FC house. If they can figure out how to pay those costs for all the houses they own, the can keep them. If they can't, that's their problem.

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A lot of people have said they'd be fine with a leasing system if it meant the demo timer was scrapped. As it could then allow players to take those breaks that yosji p keeps saying g they can but the reality is they can't...

Using the numbers you gave as an example I could then chuck a couple million gil to pay the next 6 months rent and then drop my sub and take that break till the next patch goes live. I'd be totally fine with that.. as long as its capped at say 6 months (1 patch cycle) to stop players just chucking 10 years rent in advance and then quitting and never coming back..

Least then players could actually take those breaks yoshi keeps saying they can.

It is obvious that the only issue SE was focused on, at least in the immediate, was that players were sitting clicking on a placard for a stupid amount of time. The lotto system solves that issue and that issue alone. However, statically getting a house will be extremely more difficult as the pool of players you will be competing against will increase both because of the recent influx of new players and the lack of a "dissuasion" that was the time sink of old housing savage. Meaning any player can spend 2 minutes getting a ticket, so instead of competing against the 10-15 players clicking the placard, you're competing against a most likely exponential amount of more people.

That coupled with a most likely less supply, because of the FC wards and personal wards. i don't see them adding that many new wards due to data issues (which people don't seem to grasp). The people who have houses will be grandfather'd in if their house happens to be in a now FC or personal ward. So all in all, you are even less likely (on the surface) to get a house in 6.0 then now.

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A lot of people have said they'd be fine with a leasing system if it meant the demo timer was scrapped. As it could then allow players to take those breaks that yosji p keeps saying g they can but the reality is they can't...

Using the numbers you gave as an example I could then chuck a couple million gil to pay the next 6 months rent and then drop my sub and take that break till the next patch goes live. I'd be totally fine with that.. as long as its capped at say 6 months (1 patch cycle) to stop players just chucking 10 years rent in advance and then quitting and never coming back..

Least then players could actually take those breaks yoshi keeps saying they can.

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Loop hole with rent even with cap. Players would still pay forward and leave. 6 month cap wont stop them, they would pay leave. In 6 months log in long enough to pay again and leave. Demo timer sucks which I fully understand but it serves it purpose which is too encourage active play. SE wants homes in the hands of active players not players who only play on patch drops. Players who want freedom to take off should invest in and apartment.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

Throwing some numbers out there, just make all house owners pay upkeep costs of like 50k gil/week for each small personal house, 100k gil/week for a medium personal house, 200k gil/week for a large personal house, or 1M gil/week for a small FC house, 2M gil/week for medium FC house, or 3M gil/week for a large FC house. If they can figure out how to pay those costs for all the houses they own, the can keep them. If they can't, that's their problem.

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SE is not likely to implement this weird fixation of yours. Also, I don't think you realize just how much gil people have. I'm watching people buy relocations or FC houses for anywhere from 60 million (for a lvl 6 bare bones FC with a small house in a weird location attached) to 800 million+ (for a large house in a desirable location). Housing hoarders have a lot of gil, that's how they got where they are now. Implementing this weird fixation of yours wouldn't be so much as a blip on their radar.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

Throwing some numbers out there, just make all house owners pay upkeep costs of like 50k gil/week for each small personal house, 100k gil/week for a medium personal house, 200k gil/week for a large personal house, or 1M gil/week for a small FC house, 2M gil/week for medium FC house, or 3M gil/week for a large FC house. If they can figure out how to pay those costs for all the houses they own, the can keep them. If they can't, that's their problem.

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Just stop. You shouldn't encourage "upkeep", this isn't real life where we have to pay mortgages. It's isn't very cool to punish your players for playing your game.

You have to ask yourself:
"What value does this bring the players?"
Paying an upkeep deliver z e r o value.
It doesn't improve anyone's experience.

We already have a demolition timer in the game, that should be a good enough deturent to keep your house, arguably it could be shorter than 45 days, imo.

But this mindset of yours is mindblowing.

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You know I'm pointing at the truth, and you can't handle it, so you're gonna blame me for all of the game's problems instead of facing that truth: You are reacting to almost no information with emotionally driven panic instead of thinking critically about what has been said.

I'll continue to make suggestions, and we'll see how it goes. That's how a growth mindset works.

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Can you start making good suggestions in that case?

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A lot of people have said they'd be fine with a leasing system if it meant the demo timer was scrapped.

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I can see why SE does not embrace this.

"Hey Yoshi, I'd like to stop sending you cash for my house, and start sending gil!"

SE is a business first. The housing model as is keeps subscriptions rolling. I don't think we should ask SE to give up revenue in this way any more than we can ask SE to add 100 wards and not pass the cost along to us.

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Originally Posted by Catstab

I can see why SE does not embrace this.

"Hey Yoshi, I'd like to stop sending you cash for my house, and start sending gil!"

SE is a business first. The housing model as is keeps subscriptions rolling. I don't think we should ask SE to give up revenue in this way any more than we can ask SE to add 100 wards and not pass the cost along to us.

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Yeah but that then comes back to thenfamous quote that housing won't require an active subscription to maintain....

And on top of the other one. That's its ok for players to take breaks between patches which is a quote that comes up time and time again. Evencin an interview around Easter time this year.

Hmif he's going to keep saying that it's OK to take breaks he needs to put systems in place that support his words.

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Yeah but that then comes back to thenfamous quote that housing won't require an active subscription to maintain....

And on top of the other one. That's its ok for players to take breaks between patches which is a quote that comes up time and time again. Evencin an interview around Easter time this year.

Hmif he's going to keep saying that it's OK to take breaks he needs to put systems in place that support his words.

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How long a break should be varies with everyone person. Some feel 3 months is a break, others feels 2 weeks is enough time away. When he says take a break I don't think he means disappear completely until the next patch.

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Just stop.

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Can you start making good suggestions in that case?

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You only hate them because my suggestions screw over the land barons that you worship and adore.

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Explain how RNG of a lottery system is going to fix housing? Explain how its going to ensure players who have waited years are not going to get screwed and watch it give a house to someone who has only played 6 months? Explain how its going to keep things fair for all players no matter how long they have played? Give every player assurance they will get a house so long as they meet the requirements, Assure them rng in your beloved lottery wont screw them over for months or years. Lets see the big witty brain of truth you got answer all this.

No excuses, No saying you have no clue or don't know, no saying SE needs to figure it out. You been pushing this idea now make players believe its a good idea show them all that Hype you have for it. Time to step up and address the cons of a lottery system and ease people concerns.

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Did it ever occur to you that you're fixating on a (likely) trivial part of what Yoshi-P said and missing the more significant part because you are having a knee-jerk reaction to RNG?

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

SE is not likely to implement this weird fixation of yours. Also, I don't think you realize just how much gil people have. I'm watching people buy relocations or FC houses for anywhere from 60 million (for a lvl 6 bare bones FC with a small house in a weird location attached) to 800 million+ (for a large house in a desirable location). Housing hoarders have a lot of gil, that's how they got where they are now. Implementing this weird fixation of yours wouldn't be so much as a blip on their radar.

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No, but it makes it harder (mechanically) to maintain the ward of FCs, while largely being invisible to the average person. There's plenty of other MMOs that have housing systems that don't screw over the players this badly that have rent. Given how badly SE has screwed up housing, maybe it's time to start bringing in some of the mechanics that people on this forum hate (likely because it would be invisible to the average player but screw them over) because those mechanics may actually help solve the issue.

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Yeah but that then comes back to thenfamous quote that housing won't require an active subscription to maintain....

And on top of the other one. That's its ok for players to take breaks between patches which is a quote that comes up time and time again. Evencin an interview around Easter time this year.

Hmif he's going to keep saying that it's OK to take breaks he needs to put systems in place that support his words.

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That's the main reason why I want to see a rent timer, as getting rid of all the weird timers (especially the ones that keep getting paused and exacerbate the supply issue) would make the housing system far better overall. Sadly, too many have been traumatized by the current system to see that point.

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Did it ever occur to you that you're fixating on a (likely) trivial part of what Yoshi-P said and missing the more significant part because you are having a knee-jerk reaction to RNG?

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Until you answer those questions far as I am concerned your a waste of forum space. If you are going to make suggestions then you better have the brass to address concerns which you clearly lack.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

How long a break should be varies with everyone person. Some feel 3 months is a break, others feels 2 weeks is enough time away. When he says take a break I don't think he means disappear completely until the next patch.

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thats generally exactly what he means as its typically stated in response to the big content droughts players experience between patches..

expecting a dev to add systems that support there words isnt unreasonalble. so adding systems that let players take breaks and keep there house until the next patch is not an unreasonable request. and if its keeps his old promise of housing not being tied to subsctription status then it'll only increase his credibility

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Originally Posted by Dzian

thats generally exactly what he means as its typically stated in response to the big content droughts players experience between patches..

expecting a dev to add systems that support there words isnt unreasonalble. so adding systems that let players take breaks and keep there house until the next patch is not an unreasonable request. and if its keeps his old promise of housing not being tied to subsctription status then it'll only increase his credibility

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Well the Devs have backed themselves into a corner with one way out, the way they don't want to take.This is a double edge sword people want to take a break and keep their house but have unused homes freed up. That's the issue with a rent system it would be affordable to all players which just makes it more easy to abuse. Its a case of you can't have your cake and eat it too with this housing system. I have never actually said this on the forum but..I detest the current system I hate seeing others players not able to get homes. I don't like or want players with or without homes punished just so the other side can benefit.