TH Procing

[Dihlyte]

What happened to TH+ from gear and traits capping at 8? Are you implying that 8 is only the max initial application and gear beyond +8 actually does increase the proc rate?

The initial TH debuff you can apply to the enemy caps at 8.

Procing after 8, to then 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 (14 being the total cap of TH a enemy can be applied by a 1,200 job point THF) is "affected" by equipment.

You cannot "raise" the proc rate, as this is a set value.
You *can* however, prevent its decay.

Decay on TH Proc values happen when your current TH value in traits and equipment are lower than that of the enemies current TH debuff value.

As presented perfectly here:



In other words, you want to be using a total of TH14 value if you wish to proc to 14.

If you wish to proc as high as you can prior to an enemies death, you also want TH14 total.

Anything above TH14 is not helpful, (as 14 is the maximum you can apply, and the "proc rate is set") and anything below 14 is not going to maximize your chances. You can still proc, but your rate will be diminished.

[Catmato]

Procing after 8, to then 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 (14 being the total cap of TH a enemy can be applied by a 1,200 job point THF) is "affected" by equipment.

This thread is the first I've heard of this being true. Is this just common knowledge and I just completely missed it?

[Alhanelem]

This thread is the first I've heard of this being true. Is this just common knowledge and I just completely missed it?

It's only affected in the sense that if you don't have enough, you're at a disadvantage. There's no benefit to having more than necessary.

[Dihlyte]

This thread is the first I've heard of this being true. Is this just common knowledge and I just completely missed it?

Here is the quote from the deve we're gathering our information from.

The part I snip to includes the specific aspect we're referring.

When the value of Treasure Hunter placed on a monster and the value of the Treasure Hunter on your character are different, this will cause the growth rate to vary.

With that said, if you want to increase the Treasure Hunter value, it is best to utilize equipment that has the Treasure Hunter+ effect. By unequipping Treasure Hunter+ gear, you are essentially creating a gap between the value placed on the monster and your character, which results in an inefficient means for increasing the TH value.

There have been requests to make it so that it's possible to switch out TH+ gear after the TH effect is placed on a monster, but as there is a concern that this would reduce the value of equipment with Treasure Hunter+ and also takes away all the hard work some players have put into maximize their Treasure Hunter.

[Catmato]

Here is the quote from the deve we're gathering our information from.

The part I snip to includes the specific aspect we're referring.

That's the same post I quoted here, but I still can't find any source, be it from the devs themselves or from community testing, stating that equipping TH+ beyond 8 has any effect on the proc rate or anything else.

[Dihlyte]

That's the same post I quoted here, but I still can't find any source, be it from the devs themselves or from community testing, stating that equipping TH+ beyond 8 has any effect on the proc rate or anything else.

Please read.

You ask about TH+ 8.

The dev said, and I quote:

when the value of Treasure Hunter placed on a monster and the value of the Treasure Hunter on your character are different, this will cause the growth rate to vary.

TH is essentially a debuff.

When you use TH+8 total, and then proceed to proc to 9, and you remain in only TH+8 total, there is now a difference between your TH value and the enemies TH value.

This will cause the rate to now vary. As there is now a difference between your value, and the enemies value.

If you then proc to 10, and you continue to remain in TH+8 value, there is an even larger difference between your equipment/totals and the enemies total.

This means you encounter a decay, or a loss in your proc rate.

If I am in TH+14, and I proc from 8 to 9, there is no "loss" in difference. As stated by the Developer:

Adding Treasure Hunter+ via equipment, or other means, will not increase the rate at which the Treasure Hunter value grows, as this is a set rate.

So clearly it is being said, that using any TH+ total value below the current enemies value, will not "increase" the rate, but will instead "lower" the rate if your value is lower.

This is a source directly from the developer, clearly stating, that using anything below TH+14 when trying to proc to TH+14 will cause a reduced chance.

Using only TH+8 while trying to proc to TH+10 from TH+9, which:

results in an inefficient means for increasing the TH value.

In other words, it is "important" to use TH+ equipment, removing the need for TH+ equipment,

takes away all the hard work some players have put into maximize their Treasure Hunter.

Thus, they have no plans to change how TH+ equipment affects the system as a whole.

There is your source, that using anything lower than TH+14 will reduce your chances to proc to a total of TH+14 on the enemy.

If you are using only TH+8, trying to proc to 9, 10, any number past 8 will be reduced. As stated by the developer. The source you quoted is the source that says this very information.