[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Dale]

[QUOTE=bazookatooth;562995]

My point was that the Beast Master pets tank much better than the other pet jobs. It was a simple point and I'm not sure why it has you so lost.[/quote[

Because not only is it not true in the case of pup, but it doesn't matter because Pup can tank and SMN doesn't need to. BST also has higher Axe skill than any other pet job. Also irrelevant to the conversation. You can go on and debate it all you want, but it doesn't matter.




No, you made this statement:



And someone pointed out that all pet jobs have been doing that (pups by actually tanking and SMN by recalling pets). You took that off on some irrelevant tangent about emnity generation which does not change the outcome. Pet jobs have historically been able to kill things just like bst does albeit using slightly different methods (Because they are different jobs). Sometimes more or less successfully depending on the NM.

But the reason I responded was because it was both false (Pup can tank) and intentionally misleading (Smn doesn't need / want to tank like a bst pet) and I just don't like people spreading FUD.




That's probably because people spread FUD all over the net about how pup sucks and other people believe it. Kind of like how you are basically telling everyone that they shouldn't play anything but bst right now.

Besides, the real tanking debate should be about the fact that PLD is miles ahead of NIN and RUN on everything but that stupid death rabbit in zitah.

Not sure where to even begin with this.

When you are discussing the ability of a pet to tank - then yes - enmity is definitely a relevant factor and not an irrelevant tangent.

Beast Master pets can tank even in parties (not just solo) because they create a lot of enmity with their crazy damage and can live while doing it due to their high defenses. Try doing that with other pet jobs. You are going to be disappointed.

In other words: there is no slightly different method that is going to make up the difference. The Beast Master pets are just superior in terms of tanking ability. When you have a pet that can both do great damage and tank - plus you have the added luxury of being able to stand back out of harm's way - that is just too much. You are officially a one man party at that point.

Paladin is a solid tank but I don't think they are miles ahead of RUN on everything except some rabbit in Zii'Tah. RUN has some innate advantages over Paladin when it comes to resisting elemental damage and that can give them the edge in quite a few fights.