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Thread: BST nerf please

  1. #141
    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    NIN/DNC can solo their own Kannagi. Must be over-powered! As can DRG/Mage if they know what they are doing!

    However, the point is: Sure BST can solo just about anything. A 'naked BST that didn't even bother to learn about the job' can't. A BST that can solo just about anything has a ful pet -PDT set, -MDT set, Pet DD set and (wait for it...) yes a BST that wants to solo these really hard mobs will actually have a melee set. This is because a decent BST will actually be meleeing along side their pet, or on a mob with really dangerous AOE just running in to WS, and using snarl. A decent BST will have an idle set with a huge amount of auto-regen.

    A naked BST isn't getting the most out of their reward.
    A naked BST is going to take (even) longer to kill stuff.
    A naked BST sucks.
    A naked BST will often be seen sampling what the floor tastes like.

    Sure a BST can solo most stuff, but it's not as easy as the OP makes it out to be, and what's more, it can take forever to do so.
    A poor BST in our LS pretty much solo'd his own Masamune without asking anyone for help. He spent a lot of time online, and it still took him months. We only helped when we noticed we were in the same zone as him for whatever reason and spammed a few pops for him, or helped him out on procs.

    Party of the right proc jobs/well-geared people is and always will be > BST solo.

    BST solo is fine if you are in the (un?)fortunate position to be able to play more often than most of your friends, so you are online by yourself a lot, or just if you have no friends; but you're much better off asking friends to go along, let them lot whatever you don't need and get it out of the way as fast as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    My jobs are all 99, and jugs are stronger then the master by a huge margin. Needs to be nerfed. And 3/5 jobs i have geared are solo jobs and better then BST.
    Maybe the Abyssea haters are right, after all. Looks like any idiot CAN level everything to 99 and pump out all the Empyreans and Relics they want. You're much better evidence that it doesn't take brainpower to get through FFXI than a naked BST soloing old content is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Maybe the Abyssea haters are right, after all. Looks like any idiot CAN level everything to 99 and pump out all the Empyreans and Relics they want. You're much better evidence that it doesn't take brainpower to get through FFXI than a naked BST soloing old content is.
    Sad but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    wow at ppl scared of the truth, BST pets have more HP then a galka MNK, hit almost as hard if not hard as a 2h DD, have pretty decent evasion, and can be cured every 1m? 90s? for just as much as cure 5 and 6. And you don't think it shouldn't be nerfed at all? pets like a fusion of MNK/THF/WAR with the bst spamming reward and stuff like a WHM. If you don't think thats not too OP yo are wrong.
    lol, quoted for how bad a liar you are.
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    Yeah, he really has no clue at all, there is no way a naked beast can solo everything, even a decently geared beast has trouble keeping pet alive fighting NMs in abyssea. Only a select few NMs where beast has little trouble keeping pet alive, for most of the majority, you really have to geared well and spent time making -pdt axes, multiple sets too, which forced you to level your axes. As well as completing some of the mini add ons missions. Even then 75 seconds is eternity when certain NMs go absolutely crazy at 25% and can tear through pet very easily. No way naked beast will succeed.

    These beast haters pretty much jealous over two things, that bandwagon beasts can farm dynamis, and that the same bandwagon beasts can solo a few of the bcnms. One in particular is for mnk black belt, that's about it.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 07-29-2012 at 03:18 AM.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Yup he is a troll allright, with zero comprehension of what a beastmaster job is all about, if you read all of his posting is nothing but ranting and trolling the beastmaster job. Zero credibility whatsoever.
    Now, now, personal attacks just because you don't want your training wheels taken away. Learn to play the game and gear jobs/put effort into them, even if they don't nerf it Seekers of Andoulin is based on Lv99, BSts will be put back in their place by then at the latest since "endgame" will no longer be 75 based solo content. All i see is bunch of BSTs crying because they dont wanna go back to being where they belong: with PUP and DRG. And lol at ppl trying to defend BST by bringing up how other jobs perform in abyssea, its ABYSSEA everyones OP in aby since that is its purpopse. Bring up a valid arguement from someone more credible then a bunch of abyssea boomers who cant function outside abyssea or VW with anything other then BST on content over 75. I've been playing since NA release and im well aware of game mechanics, BST is gonna go back down its just a matter of when, i just wanna spur the process along faster,
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    To put the success of this troll thread in terms of kittens, a picture of Captain Fluffs sleeping has taken over Google Image Search. Even searches using the names of adult film stars just turn up images of Captain Fluffs with those names as captions.

    To put the success of this troll thread in terms of super-villains, it already took over the earth a year ago. We are all working on a ten-mile-high monument to its evil crotch right now. Not because the super-villain is obsessed with his or her crotch, but because all other evil monuments to evil stuff have been completed years before the set date in the evil timetable.

    The combination Adolf Hitler Mustache Museum and Dismembered Kitten Mausoleum was installed in Jerusalem last Tuesday, six months ahead of schedule because the terror of the slaves outweighed their disgust by several orders of magnitude.

    To put the success of this troll thread in terms of cutesy bakeries, there is a currently a cupcake the size of the moon orbiting the earth right now. People are taking trips to it on a rocket-ship just for one bite each. The space cupcake tastes more delicious than heaven itself.

    To put the success of this troll thread in terms of pancreatic cancer, your mom is dead.

    For better or worse, though, this is just a troll thread and success just means a bunch of banal posts.

    It is pretty ridiculous that at least one person has opted to climb on board this troll train seriously, rather than just claiming stuff with yellow names or accidentally leaving another Notorious Monster in a bad spot or something.

    People who are bad at Final Fantasy XI soloing stuff badly is one of the few issues a bro can fix with his or her own two hands. Try it. It is cathartic.
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    Last edited by SpankWustler; 07-29-2012 at 05:10 AM. Reason: Weird future and past perfect tenses. Must have still been drunk when I woke up. That would also explain the fantasy about a giant cupcake.

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    uh idk where u get ur info but im a well geared bst and vrtra's pets very much so attacked my pet i get so sick of hearing u baby whine about bst. i leveled mine the hard way back in the day in caedarva mire so maybe recheck ur info b4 u cry in public :P.
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    pump out all u want lmao. yea if u got years to devote to a fake weapon so sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Now, now, personal attacks just because you don't want your training wheels taken away. Learn to play the game and gear jobs/put effort into them, even if they don't nerf it Seekers of Andoulin is based on Lv99, BSts will be put back in their place by then at the latest since "endgame" will no longer be 75 based solo content. All i see is bunch of BSTs crying because they dont wanna go back to being where they belong: with PUP and DRG. And lol at ppl trying to defend BST by bringing up how other jobs perform in abyssea, its ABYSSEA everyones OP in aby since that is its purpopse.
    Then stop being a hypocrite, most endgame content nowadays ARE NOT solo content, naked beast cannot do these and will not win them. They barely get invite as it is now. And let's be honest really, we all know your reason posting this are dynamis farm, where most perle gear beast took over your camp. No need being an idiot here and keep posting idiotic opinion.
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