BST nerf please

[Demon6324236]

So? is there anything wrong with that?

Yes, there is something very wrong with any job which needs no gear or skills to perform well.

[Luvbunny]

Yes, there is something very wrong with any job which needs no gear or skills to perform well.

Well some people who rather not do much effort in playing this game, for them, there is Beastmaster job to play if they choose to not engage, be forever gimped, or lazy. THIS APPLY to pretty much ALL JOBS in the game, don't single out just Beastmaster. OPTIONS is great, not everyone love to not engage and spam reward food, tons of other rather fight directly and engage the mob. There are 4 pet based jobs with various degree of play style for everyone out there who wants to have pet fighting alongside them. Yes beast master offer easy way out options, and rated the easiest compare to the other three pet based jobs with Pup being the most difficult and time consuming, Summoner second and Dragoon third. Options is great for this game. Not being pigeon hole on one role is good. Being able to solo hard bcnm with just a jug pet and pet food, OMG PRICELESS!!!!!

[Demon6324236]

Then your idea of balance greatly differs from mine. To me any job you play no matter what should take effort and skill to actually be good, there should be no easy handout job for lazy people to play so they can get things easy. It has nothing to do with thinking someone is pro or awesome, simply balance, the job can do well where other jobs would be complete losers, in a way that is both lazy and unfair. BST pets have s high amount of HP compared to players, good damage, good eva, their defensive stats with their HP make them very powerful alone. The master should simply be stronger, and the pet be made weaker to accommodate it, the pet should not be able to do things alone while a master watches and waits.

[Rezeak]

O crap a pet that can rely on it's pet to kill things.... nerf it.

Honestly BST is great for OLD content but sux at newer content (Nyzle v2, Legion, Odin V2, VW) so why take it away from it.

[Demon6324236]

O crap a pet that can rely on it's pet to kill things.... nerf it.

Honestly BST is great for OLD content but sux at newer content (Nyzle v2, Legion, Odin V2, VW) so why take it away from it.

Reasons were explained in my last few posts. Honestly BST would be somewhat ok as a DD in VW I'm sure if they made the Master stronger as I suggest. The merit Axe WS is STR based, seems to do some nice damage, with enhanced masters that would be even stronger. It wouldn't be a Heavy DD but it could some good damage and supply an extra proc as well. Now that they fixed the hate problems for BST it wouldn't be problematic for that reason either.

As for NNI, thats because only Heavy DDs, SCH, and perhaps BLU, are good for it, everything else basically gets ignored. Legion I have yet to really try so I wouldn't know, and Odin again, I haven't tried, so I wouldn't know.

[Luvbunny]

The master should simply be stronger, and the pet be made weaker to accommodate it, the pet should not be able to do things alone while a master watches and waits.

Hello, there is such job already, it is called Dragoon!!! It is exactly like you describe it, and if you want more control, Puppetmaster to a degree. What is it that you do not understand about beast master job? Or you are too dense to get that beast master use jug pets to tank and deal damage, end of story, get with the program.

[Natenn]

Well some people who rather not do much effort in playing this game, for them, there is Beastmaster job to play if they choose to not engage, be forever gimped, or lazy. THIS APPLY to pretty much ALL JOBS in the game, don't single out just Beastmaster. OPTIONS is great, not everyone love to not engage and spam reward food, tons of other rather fight directly and engage the mob. There are 4 pet based jobs with various degree of play style for everyone out there who wants to have pet fighting alongside them. Yes beast master offer easy way out options, and rated the easiest compare to the other three pet based jobs with Pup being the most difficult and time consuming, Summoner second and Dragoon third. Options is great for this game. Not being pigeon hole on one role is good. Being able to solo hard bcnm with just a jug pet and pet food, OMG PRICELESS!!!!!

SCH and WHM being brought up to compare with BST being a "mindlessly OP' job? Did you playthis game AFTER abyssea got released? Did you read any other posts or did you just see thread name and start being super mad? You can't be a naked/gimp WHM and solo. Nor SCH, my point is BST pets are to OP, so many ppl just get the gimpest gear sets and just let an OP AI pet do all the work. BST is the most mindless and non-skilled job available. I just want SE to nerf to the point where you cant just leech it up and spend a total of 5 minutes at the AH buying awful gear then go out and start soloing endgame so to speak, its a slap in the face of the ppl who actually take pride in their jobs and spend vasts amount of time perfecting them.

[Luvbunny]

Seems like the point is you are just jealous that beast master can have a really good jug pets and pet food and be able to play the game just fine and have a lot of fun without having to do much works on most anything else should they choose to. This is called giving options for any players who have different play style, period. Some may see the game as nothing but fun escapism and do not care about pride or whatever perfecting crap of a pixelated time waster. They just want to get to 99 be forever gimped but still be able to just log and play and have fun. SE is catering to many different type of gamers which is amazing change in comparison, no need to get butt hurt jealous - its just a game. Either level beast master or just do other things that suits your play style.

[Demon6324236]

Jealousy has nothing to do with an unbalanced job.

[Luvbunny]

Yeah this is like thief complaining why Dancer can do self skill chain and Red Mage complaining that Blue Mage is actually the real deal when it comes to melee mage job. Neither are valid argument since each jobs is just that, DIFFERENT. Or how White Mage can do a much better healing compared to Scholar and Red Mage. If you want to play a job where your pet is the main deal, you can be butt naked and still can do the job, play beast master, that is what the job designed for, to play as the master of a beast, using jug pet to take the brunt of the damage and doing pretty much the job. It is not perfect, and it is one dimensional but hey, it works for a lot of people. If you want the master to deal a lot of the damage then play Dragoon, if you want a more balanced pet jobs, there is Puppetmaster, and if you so inclined to play the bastard child of the pet jobs, then Summoner is for you.

You are all complaining that Beastmaster jug pet is over powered... if you take this one out of the equation then you have a gimped dragoon that is neither this or that, worse job than puppet master, and not even as useful as Summoner when it comes to buffing abilities. This is what the Beastmaster job is about, it is designed to be played this way, using jug pets. You should be grateful that SE will not let Beastmaster self skill chain with its jug pets like how Pup can do massive damage with a puppet who has unlimited MP and pretty much buff you into oblivion. You also should rejoice that they will not let pet to buff the entire party like how Summoner Avatar can do this at ease, even they can self skill chain with their avatars. Be happy that Beastmaster strength lies on the jug pet, and as usual a good player will make the master deal massive damage with perfect gears and weapon. At least a perfectly geared Warrior still triumph over Beastmaster when it comes to Axe damage. God forbid next you gonna start calling out for Puppetmaster nerf since that job right now after the updates are quite nifty as you can see with the recent discovery of pup sub... Yeah go figure!!

Would you rather have beast master able to charm mobs again?? Would you? And rule dynamis with charmed mob, and pretty much wreak havoc in abysea if they can charm. They are stuck with jug pets, forever.... and have to pay through the roof for the good jug pets and pet food.