Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Metaking]

well unless se puts out the th pet item with the patch blu will be above pets, and also not all of are traits are weaker att+ def+(lol) refresh triple attack, and even if are th is only half as effective we got a belt with th+1 on it so........ 1.5 th goooooooooo

[Kristal]

BST's have had their say.. can it be time for PUPs and SMNs to rejoice now?

※The current focus of this adjustment is for familiar pets, but in the future if automatons and avatars are given Treasure Hunter, we will be adopting the same policy.

I'm guessing/hoping a Metal Detector attachment for automaton, and Cait Sith for SMN! And that Pet: TH+ is put on an earring slot.

[Sp1cyryan]

An issue was discovered in which the Beastmaster job was inadvertently made effective. This issue will be addressed in a future content update.

We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

If I went through and quoted all the silly, complaining, whining, dumb posts in this thread I would be here all week. That being said I honestly hope the Dev team has learned to ignore 90% of the posts on the forum.

TH does not make a job effective. Did no one ever play THF a few years ago? Remember that old "hey go hit the mob and stand around so you dont lolfeedthemobTP" deal they had?

RNG gets its own brand of TH and then can later up the level of TH - Everyone yawns.
BLU gets TH1 from setting spells - Everyone yawns
BST pets get lowered to a base of TH1 with the mention of TH+gear for pets? - 'HOLY SH!T OMGWTFBBQ I AM QUITING THIS GAME SE STINKS BLAH BLAH CHICKEN LITTLE THE MTHFKNG SKY IS FALLIN' OH LAWDY LAWD! SAVE US!'

As if TH was even something that mattered to BST. As if people started leveling BST over THF for TH. As if TH was a focus of BST. As if this is a significant event in the first place. As if Dynamis will suddenly end and be empty without every Perle BST and their mother running around with a Dipper or Falcorr.

[Camiie]

If I went through and quoted all the silly, complaining, whining, dumb posts in this thread I would be here all week. That being said I honestly hope the Dev team has learned to ignore 90% of the posts on the forum.

You mean the ones that disagree with your opinions right?

TH does not make a job effective. Did no one ever play THF a few years ago? Remember that old "hey go hit the mob and stand around so you dont lolfeedthemobTP" deal they had?

BST is regarded as a soloer. TH makes soloing for gear/items more effective.

RNG gets its own brand of TH and then can later up the level of TH - Everyone yawns.
BLU gets TH1 from setting spells - Everyone yawns
BST pets get lowered to a base of TH1 with the mention of TH+gear for pets? - 'HOLY SH!T OMGWTFBBQ I AM QUITING THIS GAME SE STINKS BLAH BLAH CHICKEN LITTLE THE MTHFKNG SKY IS FALLIN' OH LAWDY LAWD! SAVE US!'

I didn't see that post, could you link it for me?

As if TH was even something that mattered to BST.

It does matter since it's an ability our pets were given.

As if people started leveling BST over THF for TH. As if TH was a focus of BST. As if this is a significant event in the first place. As if Dynamis will suddenly end and be empty without every Perle BST and their mother running around with a Dipper or Falcorr.

I leveled BST for fun and solo ability. When they added pets with TH they added to that for me. Taking it away subtracts from those aspects. Yes having TH and potentially getting whatever I'm after faster is a nice bonus to both.

BST's have had their say.. can it be time for PUPs and SMNs to rejoice now?

I'm guessing/hoping a Metal Detector attachment for automaton, and Cait Sith for SMN! And that Pet: TH+ is put on an earring slot.

I'd die from shock if they gave something even slightly beneficial to SMN. I don't know if that's extra incentive for them to do it or not. Good luck to the PUPs though!

[Mavrick]

If I went through and quoted all the silly, complaining, whining, dumb posts in this thread I would be here all week. That being said I honestly hope the Dev team has learned to ignore 90% of the posts on the forum.

TH does not make a job effective. Did no one ever play THF a few years ago? Remember that old "hey go hit the mob and stand around so you dont lolfeedthemobTP" deal they had?

RNG gets its own brand of TH and then can later up the level of TH - Everyone yawns.
BLU gets TH1 from setting spells - Everyone yawns
BST pets get lowered to a base of TH1 with the mention of TH+gear for pets? - 'HOLY SH!T OMGWTFBBQ I AM QUITING THIS GAME SE STINKS BLAH BLAH CHICKEN LITTLE THE MTHFKNG SKY IS FALLIN' OH LAWDY LAWD! SAVE US!'

As if TH was even something that mattered to BST. As if people started leveling BST over THF for TH. As if TH was a focus of BST. As if this is a significant event in the first place. As if Dynamis will suddenly end and be empty without every Perle BST and their mother running around with a Dipper or Falcorr.

Obviously you do not play BST (or maybe you do but you're clueless), otherwise you would've known why THF pets are so popular among BST (hint: it was because of a certain trait). No, BST aren't going to die because of this, career bst aren't Q.Q'n about this or preparing to quit the game, but do try to realize that nerfing a trait on a pet where the trait is the main reason for using the pet in the first place (warranted or not) is a pretty big deal.

It's pretty useless trying to explain the mechanics of BST to someone who has most likely never touched the job and just seems to have just jumped on the bandwagon of people foaming at the mouth in anticipation of a bst nerf because they think it will clear dyanmis of all the perle/pink BSTs. Take a look at all the level 76+ jug pets BST has access to (~15 of them)... Wonder why you rarely see BST (who actually know what they're doing) running around with raptors, Lizards, Apkallu, lolfrog, leeches, flytrap, Fungar, Eft, Coeurl, Mandy, Fly, Lynx, Adamantoise, ect pets? Because those pets are generally useless. They have no defining traits, abilities and/or have low attack power and they fail to stand out over pets like slug, Rabbit, and Tiger.

The main reason why BST use Dipper, Falcorr is for TH (you would know this if you played BST). Sure, those pets have other uses, such as evasion or wind resistance, but Treasure Hunter is the the main reason to use those pets. If BST didn't care about Treasure Hunter (as you suggested) why the hell would they be forking out 80-100k for a stack of these jugs that sell 15~25 stacks daily? The only other pet that cost more is Adamantoise at 300k/stack and they are no where near as popular (you would know why if you played BST) ...

Top this off with the fiasco of the Jug pet poll (once again you would know this if you played bst) where Scorpion (DD pet) clearly had more votes but Falcorr (who didn't even make the top 3) won the votes any way because the developers either ignored the poll or used some sort of strange counting mechanism to skew the polls so JPs would get Falcorr (THF) which is now being nerfed for the sole reason why JPs voted for him in the first place (ie: Treasure Hunter) Then they turned around gave us a completely useless mascot pet (the frog) and the incredibly weak and useless Apkallu, where a stronger DD/Utilitly pet such as Scorpion, Kraken, Dhalmel, Ruszor, or even Slime (which I'm not to fond of) would've been light years ahead in usefulness even if they were toned down.

Treasure Hunter(I) isn't going to be the death of the BST job, nor do I see career BST rallying with torches and pitchforks Q.Q'ng about how they plan to quit because of this update (Take a look at the BST forum where CAREER bst hang out. ) Personally I do not think the nerf is merited but I do not see it being a big deal. Just wanted to point out to the bandwagoners and the clueless that TH was only a big deal for these 2 Pets, not the BST job as a whole, since some people cannot seem to tell the difference.

[primel]

hi bst friends, im jpn player ('-')/

Oh my gods, what shall we do for this crazy adjustments?
In japanese forums, over 700+ replies...

"Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs" written by Mocchi, jpn modelator.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20369
Too many questions and a criticisms, but only ONE reply from square-enix.

Why we all bsts are persecuted as usual?
I like solo playing and Im an adventurer...

Primel, jpn solo bst... dont have other Lv99 jobs and no abys expansion.
--
sorry for my poor english (*^^*)

[deces]

Obviously you do not play BST (or maybe you do but you're clueless), otherwise you would've known why THF pets are so popular among BST (hint: it was because of a certain trait). No, BST aren't going to die because of this, career bst aren't Q.Q'n about this or preparing to quit the game, but do try to realize that nerfing a trait on a pet where the trait is the main reason for using the pet in the first place (warranted or not) is a pretty big deal.

It's pretty useless trying to explain the mechanics of BST to someone who has most likely never touched the job and just seems to have just jumped on the bandwagon of people foaming at the mouth in anticipation of a bst nerf because they think it will clear dyanmis of all the perle/pink BSTs. Take a look at all the level 76+ jug pets BST has access to (~15 of them)... Wonder why you rarely see BST (who actually know what they're doing) running around with raptors, Lizards, Apkallu, lolfrog, leeches, flytrap, Fungar, Eft, Coeurl, Mandy, Fly, Lynx, Adamantoise, ect pets? Because those pets are generally useless. They have no defining traits, abilities and/or have low attack power and they fail to stand out over pets like slug, Rabbit, and Tiger.

The main reason why BST use Dipper, Falcorr is for TH (you would know this if you played BST). Sure, those pets have other uses, such as evasion or wind resistance, but Treasure Hunter is the the main reason to use those pets. If BST didn't care about Treasure Hunter (as you suggested) why the hell would they be forking out 80-100k for a stack of these jugs that sell 15~25 stacks daily? The only other pet that cost more is Adamantoise at 300k/stack and they are no where near as popular (you would know why if you played BST) ...

Top this off with the fiasco of the Jug pet poll (once again you would know this if you played bst) where Scorpion (DD pet) clearly had more votes but Falcorr (who didn't even make the top 3) won the votes any way because the developers either ignored the poll or used some sort of strange counting mechanism to skew the polls so JPs would get Falcorr (THF) which is now being nerfed for the sole reason why JPs voted for him in the first place (ie: Treasure Hunter) Then they turned around gave us a completely useless mascot pet (the frog) and the incredibly weak and useless Apkallu, where a stronger DD/Utilitly pet such as Scorpion, Kraken, Dhalmel, Ruszor, or even Slime (which I'm not to fond of) would've been light years ahead in usefulness even if they were toned down.

Treasure Hunter(I) isn't going to be the death of the BST job, nor do I see career BST rallying with torches and pitchforks Q.Q'ng about how they plan to quit because of this update (Take a look at the BST forum where CAREER bst hang out. ) Personally I do not think the nerf is merited but I do not see it being a big deal. Just wanted to point out to the bandwagoners and the clueless that TH was only a big deal for these 2 Pets, not the BST job as a whole, since some people cannot seem to tell the difference.

Well played, sir.

[Spiritreaver]

BST's have had their say.. can it be time for PUPs and SMNs to rejoice now?



I'm guessing/hoping a Metal Detector attachment for automaton, and Cait Sith for SMN! And that Pet: TH+ is put on an earring slot.

SMN is already getting Cait Sith.....at some point.

And at the bold, in short - No.

[Annalise]

Finally, people will stop inviting BSTs over THF for treasure hunter. Wait...

[Sp1cyryan]

Obviously you do not play BST (or maybe you do but you're clueless), otherwise you would've known why THF pets are so popular among BST (hint: it was because of a certain trait). No, BST aren't going to die because of this, career bst aren't Q.Q'n about this or preparing to quit the game, but do try to realize that nerfing a trait on a pet where the trait is the main reason for using the pet in the first place (warranted or not) is a pretty big deal.

It's pretty useless trying to explain the mechanics of BST to someone who has most likely never touched the job and just seems to have just jumped on the bandwagon of people foaming at the mouth in anticipation of a bst nerf because they think it will clear dyanmis of all the perle/pink BSTs. Take a look at all the level 76+ jug pets BST has access to (~15 of them)... Wonder why you rarely see BST (who actually know what they're doing) running around with raptors, Lizards, Apkallu, lolfrog, leeches, flytrap, Fungar, Eft, Coeurl, Mandy, Fly, Lynx, Adamantoise, ect pets? Because those pets are generally useless. They have no defining traits, abilities and/or have low attack power and they fail to stand out over pets like slug, Rabbit, and Tiger.

The main reason why BST use Dipper, Falcorr is for TH (you would know this if you played BST). Sure, those pets have other uses, such as evasion or wind resistance, but Treasure Hunter is the the main reason to use those pets. If BST didn't care about Treasure Hunter (as you suggested) why the hell would they be forking out 80-100k for a stack of these jugs that sell 15~25 stacks daily? The only other pet that cost more is Adamantoise at 300k/stack and they are no where near as popular (you would know why if you played BST) ...

Top this off with the fiasco of the Jug pet poll (once again you would know this if you played bst) where Scorpion (DD pet) clearly had more votes but Falcorr (who didn't even make the top 3) won the votes any way because the developers either ignored the poll or used some sort of strange counting mechanism to skew the polls so JPs would get Falcorr (THF) which is now being nerfed for the sole reason why JPs voted for him in the first place (ie: Treasure Hunter) Then they turned around gave us a completely useless mascot pet (the frog) and the incredibly weak and useless Apkallu, where a stronger DD/Utilitly pet such as Scorpion, Kraken, Dhalmel, Ruszor, or even Slime (which I'm not to fond of) would've been light years ahead in usefulness even if they were toned down.

Treasure Hunter(I) isn't going to be the death of the BST job, nor do I see career BST rallying with torches and pitchforks Q.Q'ng about how they plan to quit because of this update (Take a look at the BST forum where CAREER bst hang out. ) Personally I do not think the nerf is merited but I do not see it being a big deal. Just wanted to point out to the bandwagoners and the clueless that TH was only a big deal for these 2 Pets, not the BST job as a whole, since some people cannot seem to tell the difference.

You really love BST. You know how I know?

No, go ahead, and take a guess.

You seemed to enjoy going on a tangent that mostly was not direct to what I was even talking about.

But, fight on dear beast champion of truth and justice with your over eagerness. By all means paint me as someone who knows nothing of BST and has never touched it. Starting your post off with that really makes me believe you be a very creditable person right out of the gate.

So do we reach the point where we talk about how these forums are about how every job wants everything and to be the best?

Too soon?