Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Kiori]

Read 7 pages and that was all I could take...I don't see how this will get rid of BST from dynamis as the rest of you all seem to believe...BSTs will still kill fast, and if TH isn't an option...they can at least use a strong, more hard hitting pet to kill even faster now. I was always under the impression that BST only got as high as TH2 with the pets, surpised to find that it's TH3. BST will still be there soloing mobs, and there will forever be a player base hatred.

If you're a BST, you hate groups. If you're in a group, you hate BSTs because they are soloing.

In these situations, both groups are going to try and horde mobs, who's going to win this? The group will win because a BST can't hold hate 100% the time on multiple mobs without it flickering yellow/red. Each party member can hold one effeciently.

[detlef]

To go along with this adjustment, we will be easing up on the materials required to synthesize “Lucky Broth” which created with the basis of the Treasure Hunter effect in mind.

I would like to point out that it is unfortunate that the Lucky Broth recipe is going to be changed as a side effect. Abaia are one of the only legendary fish that actually have a practical use. As Dipper and Falcor are still going to be the only jugs with any TH at all, why is there a need to change Falcor's jug recipe?

[Vivik]

I would like to point out that it is unfortunate that the Lucky Broth recipe is going to be changed as a side effect. Abaia are one of the only legendary fish that actually have a practical use. As Dipper and Falcor are still going to be the only jugs with any TH at all, why is there a need to change Falcor's jug recipe?

For maximum derp!

[Scribble]

The only adjustments TH needed were for clarity and purpose.

Inb4 BST average 2% less coins than they were capable of farming prior to the changes.

[Aldersyde]

I would like to point out that it is unfortunate that the Lucky Broth recipe is going to be changed as a side effect. Abaia are one of the only legendary fish that actually have a practical use. As Dipper and Falcor are still going to be the only jugs with any TH at all, why is there a need to change Falcor's jug recipe?

Because a legendary fish, that can only be reliably caught with an ebisu and found in one lake in one zone, shouldn't have been introduced as a crafting material at all. You can already make a lot of money fishing up other stuff, even if you only npc all of them.

But don't worry, SE likes kicking bst in the balls. I'm sure that the abaia will stay part of the recipe. And instead of changing the lesser chigoe component of the yuly recipe, they'll drop the shell bug mat from it.

[Glamdring]

OK, my take on this whole thing. I have both beast and thief at 99, and I usually farm on thief... for Despoil. Because TH has no appreciable effect at any tier above 3, I need the yelds of steal/despoil to allow me to outperform any of my jobs /thf, or using a pet.

When I farm on thief, I'm currently gearred giving me a base TH5, and working on the gear to get to TH7. However, my thief with TH5 is no better than my beast with TH3 (actually TH2, since thief didn't out-perform my 85 bst/dnc in drop rates). This is in no way related the the awesomeness of beast thief jug pets, it's due to the way that Treasure Hunter DOES NOT improve with higher levels. I know SE has stated-time and again-that testing has shown that TH is working; I submit that 3 more drops in 5,000 kills is not an acceptable improvement with 2 extra TH tiers. In fact, my observation is that every time TH "builds" the drop rate in fact goes DOWN.

This solution is misguided. The cure is not to lower the TH of a pet that IS a 90+ thief and has thus earned TH3, it's to fix the effect of additional tiers of the ability. DAMNIT, THERE'S A REASON SO MANY PEOPLE REFER TO IT AS "PLACEBO HUNTER"!!! When I can do just as well, if not better as pup/thf than as thf/dnc farming this should be a clue. Let me put this simply, TH2 should not be equal to TH5+ in yield. Put your efforts into REAL, MEASUREABLE, PRECEIVABLE effects of this highly over-rated Job Ability; I want to see equivalent yields to Gil Hunter in terms of drops, not something that has to be trended over thousands-if not more-kills to be seen.

[Granny]

In all honestly there should be something a bit more worth while about getting a ebisu, than being able to fish up fish to make other people ebisu lols. It seemed like SE finaly did something worth while adding abaia for a synth... . Rememeber other jugs take higher end materials to synth like turtle jug needing dragon meat and so forth. With the amount of people with ebisu now at least on my server there has and prob never would be a shortage of abaia and or lucky broth, it's currently selling for almost always 30% less than ladybugs per stack.

[Juilan]

I read through this and I strongly understand that SE hates BST, the GMs do nothing about people sniping staggered monsters at 1% health in dynamis, even if you only have two monsters... You can actually get jailed for greif for yelling at the guy. (Broken system) Big whoop our pets have TH3, the only thing you're doing with saying bring a THF for TH is making the zones even more packed and keeping people going in longer because most people want a cut of the currency, or you can have that one bst come in for an extra week in the end... I have a better idea for fixing the currency issue, find a way to force the value of each currency down to 1k, that way you dont get the people going in for money... Have a vender in the past sell you currency for 4k a pop in past zones using AN... that'd rejuvenate campaign and actually give people a reason to use the expansion now that the only use of those world wide NMs is to get hermes sandals... campaign is miserably slow xp compared to a capped book burn or abyssea, but god for bid you change the balance like that. I'm sure I speak for most of the BST here when I say this, the pet TH+ gear should require some effort to get, but should not be a .000001% drop rate off a monster (LIKE YOUR STUPID VW DROP RATES DURP)

[Glamdring]

I would like to point out that it is unfortunate that the Lucky Broth recipe is going to be changed as a side effect. Abaia are one of the only legendary fish that actually have a practical use. As Dipper and Falcor are still going to be the only jugs with any TH at all, why is there a need to change Falcor's jug recipe?

because it took a full stack of Lucky with TH3 to PAY for the god damn fish? TH1 won't cover the cost. THINK people...

[deces]

So Square Enix wants every Beastmaster to take the worst hair cut possible, and if we do some VW or legion that we cant even proc in, we get a .000001% chance on getting 1 level of the TH they Indian gave us. I dont think I'm gona swallow this msg covered rotten shit. Beastmaster functions like a wheel going down the road And here comes a huge pot hole; the PDF nerf and we hit and it pits a dent in the rim. But were still rolling and another pot hole the road: ruinator nerf, and we are barely still upright and even before we could build up speed all of this happens in under course of a mile. Pet: Treasure hunter nerf.. ? Ta da its broken here comes the pit crew: ES as they put on a Square wheel That they say "This one is BALANCED" at what point do we get out of the car, look down the road, and slam the door? Here is an idea If your gona reinvent the wheel, at least make it round and better than before.