Nope, I just know that a competent group can do VW easily and each member of an alliance can get 1-12 plates (12 in a pouch), meaning this will be a complete joke before long. Especially if crybabies give up very early so there's less desire/competition to snap up plates in bazaars.
Return1 is basically saying spend less time QQ and more time doing VW and working on those plates! Besides lets be honest, like 90% of the people with an 85 Emp were never going to even bother with 90+ trials.
People are pulling an ~1 plate per run on tier 3 NMs from one of the two Voidwatch paths. Another 6 Voidwatch NMs have a chance to drop single plates, but at a low rate so you're looking at ~3-5 per alliance.
Even assuming every Voidwatch NM killed dropped 1 plate no matter what, it would take a full alliance of 18. 84 kills with a full alliance to complete one Empyrean. There are a huge number of Empyrean weapon holders looking to upgrade their weapons. As it is, your entire server will likely get less than 1 Empyrean worth of Plates per week. In contrast, it takes ~50 duo Dynamis runs to complete a Relic. Your server likely farms a Relic worth of currency every day or two.
I think its still a tad early to say. most people are working the jeuno path. i wanna see just how bad zilart paths are before passing judgement
first few weeks after any update is always messy and info is scarce, especially when most people trying to lvl jobs and recap skills before even tackling new content
on a side note i really hate these new drop systems (WoE and VW) SE seems to be trying to push strangers to party together, which is ok but this is not the way to do it. linkshells want to do things AS A LINKSHELL
Someone gets it.
The Abyssea Babies are in for a rude awakening that they actually have to work together in a group and make friends and not be a piece of shit to anyone and everyone while they get everything they want anyway from incredibly weak, handholding content.
If I cared to get an EMP, I don't because I'm an Apoc DRK meaning I have my best weapon, I could get it to 95 easily, because I have people skills that go beyond claiming your nm when it goes yellow and SSing for the lulz, and I have at very least a basic understanding of game mechanics, giving me and my kind an edge over 90% of the population of today's game.
The 95 Upgrade is easily doable but most are blind to it due to their constant QQing and inability to maintain rational strings of thought.
You have a complex of superiority and did not understand that getting an empyrean upgraded has nothing to do with doing voidwatch or being skilled. Just because you do it doesn't mean you have more chance than me at the level 95 empy. It's not enough to kill those NMs just like it was not enough to do salvage for alexandrite. Byrth explained you that you would need 90 fights while each 18 members would give you all their drops. This can't possibly happen as they can sell it and make cash or want to upgrade it themselves. They can also sell it to you but facepalm if you do VW and buy. If you want to farm everything yourself you'll actually need to do 90x18s fights *at least*. I'm not sure if you can build enough stones in on year to get an empy for your whole ally lol.
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I have 28500 Alexandrite that I've collected in the last two months and I still think this trial is bullshit. The supply is low to start with and will get lower when no one cares about Voidwatch anymore. Furthermore, it's entirely dependent on making an alliance to farm incredibly rare sidegrade gear.
It's not like Dynamis, where you can enslave people for years with their dreams of someday owning a RDM AF2 hat and then mentally whitewash it as "people skills" afterwards.
Basically, you appear to have no idea what you're talking about.
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