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    Player Gokku's Avatar
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    Current Empy 95 Price

    Trying to get a running total of what heavy iron plates are going for on all severs in hope that SE will see how ridiculous it is.

    Ive seen 3 Bazaars on carbuncle with them 5 mil , 5mil , 2mil

    Carbuncle Total : 7,500,000,000gil - 3,000,000,000 gil

    100k a plate = 150 mil for a 95 *still a little over the top but mythic says hi*
    50k = 75 mil * about the price of a relic atm so not to bad would make it rare enough*
    20k = 30 mil * serious investment not to insane for even an casual player to get*
    10k or lower * 95's..... 95's everywhere would be a dream but never going to happen*

    Requires between 4-8 accounts with MAX gil. Estimated RL value of at least $56,583 USD , to $141,457.5 USD.

    Unless Plates Drop from all content *ala kindred crests style* to the point were plates are costing 100k max to about 50k decent , and a low of 10-20k each. it is completely unreasonable to expect and player to ever complete a level 95 Empy's weapon.

    2nd comparison, Lets say you have a Linkshell who does 3 T3 VW EVERY day with 18 people never lose a kill and get a 50% drop rate on plates. 165 kills of T3 Void watch lets avg 30 mins a kill since t3 can be nasty 82.5 HOURS of voidwatch to complete.

    If you spot any in your servers bazaars please list the price and what server.
    i think i mathed this right... i prob didnt.
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    Last edited by Gokku; 09-26-2011 at 01:25 PM. Reason: typos and editing.
    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    And people complained about mythics.

    Good news, 90 Emps will probably always be better than the other options for most jobs, excluding maybe drk(reilc), sam(relic), and drg(mythic, and probably relic too since rhongo sucks major c**k).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    And people complained about mythics.
    Mythic weapons is a whole different annoying beast. Guess Emps had to cost something other than time eventually.
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    [ If people Actually post i will use this space to keep a running High / low / Avg log of the price]
    *names Removed for privacy*
    Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 100,000
    Fenrir.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 300,000
    Cerberus.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 500,000
    Shiva.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 199,000
    Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,500,000
    Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 950,000
    Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,000,000
    Shiva.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 200,000
    Asura.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 200,000
    Valefor.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,000,000
    Asura.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 399,999
    Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 500,000

    Current GW listing as of 11:12 10/1/2011
    Avg Price across all listed servers: 737416 gil *per plate*
    Avg Price to complete based on all servers: 1,106,124,000 *1.1 Billion Gil*

    Avg Per Sever : * from AH , and FF info bazaar listings per sever* if someone can tell me what the kanji is for metal plates i can check the Japanese side of Bazzar's


    Bahamut * no Listings*
    Min:
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    Shiva *2 listings*
    Min: 199,000
    Avg:199,500
    Max:200,000

    Phoenix
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    Carbuncle * 1 listing found*
    Min: 500,000
    Avg:500,000
    Max:500,000

    Fenrir * 1 listing*
    Min: 300,000
    Avg:300,000
    Max:300,000

    Sylph
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    Valefor
    Min: 1,000,000
    Avg:1,000,000
    Max:1,000,000

    Leviathan
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    Odin
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    Siren
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    Ragnarok * listings 5 atm*
    Min: 100,000
    Avg: 810,000
    Max:1,500,000

    Cerberus * 1 listing*
    Min: 500,000
    Avg:500,000
    Max:500,000

    Bismarck
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    Lakshmi
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    Asura * 2 listings*
    Min: 200,000
    Avg:299,999
    Max:399,999


    Current Cheapest Server : Shiva
    Current Price to Complete on Shiva : 299,250,000
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    Last edited by Gokku; 10-02-2011 at 01:20 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    500k each (4x).
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    I've seen a few for 100k, 200k, and a lot for 500k. I'm going to start buying at 100k, because I don't think the price will ever drop below that.

    The only thing I can think of is that the next update will include more sources (additional WoE chambers, more voidwatch NMs, etc.) but as it stands this quest is almost as daunting as Alexandrite was when mythics were released.
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    I'd buy anything below 200k myself. You say in the Op that 75 M is the price of relics? it requires about 175, 100coins which is pretty much 175M. Farming your own plates is not practical, because voidwatch sucks, the drop rate (50%?) sucks, and you are limited with voidstones.
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    Honestly I don't find this the least bit unexpected considering the vast majority of the feedback on these forums has been either Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are or non-Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are.

    That said, 165 fights isn't as terrible as it sounds if we're talking an old-school Relic/Mythic class weapon, and you can always supplement this with bought plates (I'd never buy over 200k personally =/ I'd optimistically hope for the market to stabilize at 100). It definitely removed the casual player from the equation though, holy crap. Hopefully there's an ODD rate increase on these 95s, and there's something new in store for 99 versions. OTD would be pretty boss.

    Edit: You're not really limited with voidstones. You can always buy Voiddust with cruor/ISP/CP, and you can even trade voiddust so you could buy voidstones from other people if you really wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Honestly I don't find this the least bit unexpected considering the vast majority of the feedback on these forums has been either Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are or non-Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are.

    That said, 165 fights isn't as terrible as it sounds if we're talking an old-school Relic/Mythic class weapon, and you can always supplement this with bought plates (I'd never buy over 200k personally =/ I'd optimistically hope for the market to stabilize at 100). It definitely removed the casual player from the equation though, holy crap. Hopefully there's an ODD rate increase on these 95s, and there's something new in store for 99 versions. OTD would be pretty boss.

    Edit: You're not really limited with voidstones. You can always buy Voiddust with cruor/ISP/CP, and you can even trade voiddust so you could buy voidstones from other people if you really wanted to.
    Just a little something you forgot is that the 18 members of your ally want a plate because they either want it for clink-clink or for their one empy. In other words you are not looking at 165 fights but 165*18=nearly 3000 fights if you dont buy anything. This Is why the only way to get a level 95 weapon is to buy most of it. This why voidwatch is a triple fail event. The gear sucks. The fights have artificial difficulty or drop condition difficulty essentially based on the number of people. And beeing dedicated into voidwatch doesnt give you more chance at the level 95 empy. I mean someone that can play decently can definitely build more than 100k in 30 minutes, nevermind the fact that averaging 30 minutes per fight in unrealistic due to people failing at being ponctual or ready all at once for instance.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 09-27-2011 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    This why voidwatch is a triple fail event. The gear sucks.
    Yeah, a 15% Cure potency, 15% cure cast time body that rdm and sch can equip sucks. So does an Adaman Hauberk-1 with extra DA that mnk/thf/nin/etc can equip. And don't get me started on a damage taken-8% body piece that also converts 1.4% of damage taken to TP, that one is terrible.
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