SE, Temper Activation Rate

[Rayik]

I'm sorry did someone say something?

[saevel]

Wow, the biggest babies in this thread crying aren't even RDM's in the first place. Cry us a freakin' river.

RDM melee is not about "competing with War or MNK." That was never the point. If anyone honestly thought that was the idea behind RDM melee, you're about a mile off the mark. Get out of our threads.

RDM melee is about strengthening one aspect of a hybrid job. The extra damage is supplemental, and will never "compete" with what a WAR or MNK does.

And a BLU(Scuro) wanting Temper instead of us getting it? No coincidence that same player has a BLU themed sig. Wow. AoE CW burning armies of mobs at a time and you still want more?

I welcome Temper, and look forward to adding it to RDM's toolbox of versatility.

I mentioned this several times, the detractors don't play RDM neither do they want RDM to have a melee update. What they wanted was SE to give RDM a buff to be cast on their (detractor's) favorite jobs. In essence they wanted an indirect buff to everyone except RDM.

And somehow people said I was wrong for calling them out.

[Rayik]

I mentioned this several times, the detractors don't play RDM neither do they want RDM to have a melee update. What they wanted was SE to give RDM a buff to be cast on their (detractor's) favorite jobs. In essence they wanted an indirect buff to everyone except RDM.

And somehow people said I was wrong for calling them out.

You worded it better than I could.

The DRK forum isn't as emo as this forum has become.

[cidbahamut]

I mentioned this several times, the detractors don't play RDM neither do they want RDM to have a melee update. What they wanted was SE to give RDM a buff to be cast on their (detractor's) favorite jobs. In essence they wanted an indirect buff to everyone except RDM.

And somehow people said I was wrong for calling them out.

You keep saying this but that doesn't make it true.

I am a Red Mage. I disagree with you. I think Temper being castable on other players would be pretty rad, because I'd like the spell offer more utility than "helps me farm dark rings".

You do nothing to support your position, but instead spout rhetoric designed solely to discredit those who disagree with you. Please stop it. It's getting old and it just makes you look silly.

[Supersun]

You keep saying this but that doesn't make it true.

I am a Red Mage. I disagree with you. I think Temper being castable on other players would be pretty rad, because I'd like the spell offer more utility than "helps me farm dark rings".

You do nothing to support your position, but instead spout rhetoric designed solely to discredit those who disagree with you. Please stop it. It's getting old and it just makes you look silly.

The difference between you and them though is that you will actually play the job instead of just using your dual boxed second toon to cast temper on your real jobs.

[Shiyo]

I'm RDM main, I will literally almost never melee :/

I can just change to kannagi NIN if I want to melee... RDM is not a melee job.

If I want to nuke I'll play SCH(@95 cause not playing sch without blizz5/fire5 <_<)

If I want to shoot things I'll play gandiva RNG

If I want to enfeeble, buff, support, back up cure, crowd control, nuke a bit, I'll play RDM

derp

[cidbahamut]

The difference between you and them though is that you will actually play the job instead of just using your dual boxed second toon to cast temper on your real jobs.

Yes but how can you tell the difference between those who will be dualboxing and those who won't? Because you're not going to be able to tell the difference just because someone does or does not agree with you about Temper. This is why I object, because Saevel keeps making sweeping generalizations in a provocative manner while adding nothing to the discussion other than flame-bait.

[Cursed]

The difference between you and them though is that you will actually play the job instead of just using your dual boxed second toon to cast temper on your real jobs.

rrrriiiiighhhtttt..... Because RDM getting Temper is going to make everyone who dual boxes suddenly drop WHM as their second dualboxed job, amarite?
Try again.

And of course, we all wanted temper to be castable on others, because that's the only way its worth anything at all. Self casting temper isn't going to bring RDMs out of the MH.

So be it for my mule, or for RDM mains, Temper isn't doing anyone any favors, and it sho as heeeeyaaal aint going to allow any of youz lolRDMs ever melee anything that requires more than 2-3 people in the first place.

[Septimus]

Personally, I think Temper should be self-cast only, but cause an Aura effect on the RDM that the rest of the party gains the effect if they are in decently close proximity.

But I would like new spells to cause RDMs to get party invitations if we are indeed running out of spell slots.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Personally, I think Temper should be self-cast only, but cause an Aura effect on the RDM that the rest of the party gains the effect if they are in decently close proximity.

But I would like new spells to cause RDMs to get party invitations if we are indeed running out of spell slots.

It's been suggested before a JA that copies buffs on the RDM to the party, though it may be over-powered.