SE, Temper Activation Rate

[Geabrielle]

Alright, this is getting to be a bit ridiculous. I've had my fun with BLU but I will say it will never have the place RDM does in my affections. Keep hoping that SCH will attain what is a WHMs prerogative and what a BLM will destroy a SCH) on dmg wise while trashing everything a RDM IS NOT. If RDM is so mediocre why cry about it, go back to a job that lets you keep your delusions....

That said, I agree that RDM is not meant to be a main melee job. It is a 'jack of all trades' by the release description, but the community has embraced it as an enhancer/debuffer mainly. It is NOT a buff job; Refresh and Haste does not a buffer make. The role of buffer falls to COR BRD and in some ways SMN. Having the ability to cure, given the skill denoted to RDMS does not a healer make. The true God of Healing is WHM, with SCH backing it up more effectively due to higher tier spell accessibility. RDM is not even a mystical DOTer, that is SCH's forte as they have very powerful helixes and ways to boost them to impressive levels .. and I will laugh at any SCH from the depths of my BLM soul who think they can touch what a BLM does as the masters of elemental might.

Back to the OP: I was a career RDM once, in respect to that I continue to bring my beloved first job up to the higher levels in hopes of what will be good things. I actually enjoy what Temper brings to the table for those who like employing their sword skills for why else would RDM have them?? That being said, I am pleased to read that there will be an adjustment to its 5% rate under improved enhancing skill. It is giving attention to the side of RDM that has been neglected for a very long time ( now if only they would stop mincing and give RDM Fencer! Not on gear, but as a bloody TRAIT! ).

That being said, I also support the desire to see an adjustment in the enfeebling department: PLEASE PLEASE! I began RDM because I enjoyed placing mobs in 'stuck on stupid' mode so my fellow adventurers could rip it to steaming pieces. Paralyzing to insensibility, Slowing its rampage upon my stalwart tank and generally giving it hell to a group advantage. This is falling by the wayside and it makes me terribly sad. Once again, Temper is a good idea by way of satisfying a part of the community who enjoy the path of the legendary Avesta but let us never forget we have a support aspect to take care of... and it needs fixing before RDMs simply hang up for good.

[Scuro]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11485

Vision
Support specialists who excel at transforming their allies from mere mortals into demigods with their enhancements, while rendering once-formidable enemies impotent with enfeebling magic.

We want to see red mages play a more vital role in HNM battles by making enfeebling magic more effective against high-level notorious monsters and their legendary levels of resistance as well as allowing them to better contribute to party member enhancement.

That's asinine. Of course Red Mage isn't a (is meant to be a) good buffer, it's not even one to begin with. A Red Mage is designed to cripple foes with enfeebling magic(where the focus should be) and to enhance it's martial skill through their magic(where we've been sorely lacking). Temper is exactly the way it should be. If you want (Temper should be) a party wide Double Attack (and should recieve further party effecting spells.)go ask a Corsair or a Summoner for it.

Please cease your misinformed slander...

[Daniel_Hatcher]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11485

It's not misinformed, someone that speaks both Japanese and English has already stated that the translation is wrong.

[Scuro]

Didn't see it corrected on the main log, so I doubt its nothing more then RDM denial.

yet if you can supply me with a dev tracker log link, I will be more then glad to retract my statement.

[Supersun]

It's really not.

I mean even something as horrible as google translate and microsoft translate can both catch the section about a Rdm enhancing himself...in the Japanese, French, and German versions...

Besides, are you really implying that SE is as good as translators as you make them out to be? I mean are we really so quick to forgot Sword Skill +d?

While I certainly commend them on their use of colorful language the opriginal text isn't nearly that creative.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Didn't see it corrected on the main log, so I doubt its nothing more then RDM denial.

yet if you can supply me with a dev tracker log link, I will be more then glad to retract my statement.

It hasn't been corrected, like quite a few badly translated posts and haven't been updated until the Devs look into it.

As a side note, the person that told me about it's poor translation doesn't even have RDM levelled so....

[Kitkat]

@Scuro
I fail to see how rdm is party enhancer when originally they didn't get refresh, they don't have general access to bara spells without proper sub, phalanx was originally only able to be cast on themselves until Tier II merits came along. The only spell original to the job was Regen spells, which later were removed to only first tier access and given exclusively to Whm. Even now, a vast majority of the spells rdm has access to for buffing resistance or enhancing melee damage is self target only. How can you misconstrue that a job is specifically meant to buff a party when by default 90% of their spells can only be cast on themselves?

By your definition, whm is more a buffer than rdm is due to having AOE buffs that are enhanced beyond rdm's higher enhancing skill through gear. From boost spells to bar spells, not to mention the ability to enhance party Subtle blow. Rdm doesn't get anything like that. Then you have Cor and brd who get AOE att+, acc+, DA+, Crit+, regain, refresh, etc. With this on the table looking at both base spell list and extended spell list via sub, rdm cannot and will not ever be the "king of part buff" but they are the king of buffing themselves.

This sounds like a self denial/envy that they can't have rdm spamming another rotation spell so they can attack more often cause it shouldn't be just for "lolmeleerdm." I see you seem to be a blu main, have you fully merited diffusion to self buff the party as often as possible just because you are capable of it? Blu gets a slew of nice spell effects that would benefit a party too, does that make them enhancers too or a jack of all trades job that is only capable of doing so? By your reasoning, should blu also fall into the same category of being a supreme buffer because they have the ability to buff the party through a few select spells/abilities much like the rdm? Think on this first before you reply, you'll find that the only one really misinformed is yourself, Scuro.

[Neisan_Quetz]

There isn't a single spell Blu can currently cast you could keep up fulltime with Diffusion.

[Stylin]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11485

Please cease your misinformed slander...

I'm misinformed? What a riot. You can't even debunk the arguments I've presented. I suppose only the North American and UK Red Mages are supposed to be buffers, is that it? Do you even have Red Mage leveled? A Red Mage's buffs are for themselves, one would think you would have figured that out when Composure only worked for self-cast buffs. Our full AF3 + cape doesn't even give the full duration boost, it's barely 2/3rds the duration we give ourselves. As I've already said, Regen, Refresh, and Haste doesn't magically make us some kind of buffer.

SCH has a higher tier Regen, Storms, Regain, and Accession to make their self-buffs AoE.(inb4 snipes about Regain not being worthwhile)

SMN has various abilities through Blood Pact: Ward and Avatar's Favor that are party wide.

A White Mage has a lot of the same spells as a Red Mage in AoE form.

I'm merely repeating things you should already know. Please, enlighten me on how you can sit there and think Red Mage is a buffer job when everything else brings more to the table. Putting blind faith in an inaccurate manifesto is ignorance at best.

[FrankReynolds]

It's really not.

I mean even something as horrible as google translate and microsoft translate can both catch the section about a Rdm enhancing himself...in the Japanese, French, and German versions...

Besides, are you really implying that SE is as good as translators as you make them out to be? I mean are we really so quick to forgot Sword Skill +d?

While I certainly commend them on their use of colorful language the opriginal text isn't nearly that creative.

funny, when i use Google translate, the french version says teammates, and the german version says comrades.