Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Korpg]

Raz, I offered proof. You can choose to reject a drawing at your own risk.

If you want the parses, go to zam, find it in the sticky. That was back in the Martial vs ridill days. The gap in haste and weapon has narrowed. No, I won't make you shut up.

The picture is better. Free advertising. You have to look at that and know it worked in 2006. Same playstyle, MUCH easier game.

Your proof is on the website notorious for bad information? And you want us to believe it? I would believe your information if it was on wiki, and even then they are falling down to Alla notoriety now (outdated information instead of incorrect information).

[Razushu]

Raz, I offered proof. You can choose to reject a drawing at your own risk.

If you want the parses, go to zam, find it in the sticky. That was back in the Martial vs ridill days. The gap in haste and weapon has narrowed. No, I won't make you shut up.

The picture is better. Free advertising. You have to look at that and know it worked in 2006. Same playstyle, MUCH easier game.

Your willingness to ignore the obvious astounds.

[Karbuncle]

This makes a lot of sense, at least to me. You may already have Razed Ruin and Co. on for your pet, +90% HP makes generic AoEs much less threatening, there's rarely a profound need for an extra source of healing, leaving to change jobs can be problematic, etc.

Outside of Abyssea, the meaningful content is mostly Voidwatch and re-vamped older content. Bonking most of that stuff seems ill-advised and I'm not sure what point bonking GoV monsters would have. Maybe you could bring Havartidangler to bear against some Decent Challenge stuff in city dynamis zones?

Perhaps, Kinda need Dynamis for my mandau :P, I don't think i could stomach Zerging mobs without procing there (which would be required for a decent test? I don't know, could work it out, but all the waiting to proc would skew it cause it would give time for BP timer to come up between fights).

On Razu:

I kinda agree, But I don't think it'd be a big problem, Like i said, I'll likely do an Outside and Inside test, I'm just vastly curious where a SMN melee would stand in both terms of DD vs a Real Melee, and DD vs our Avatars. I suspect great things to come.

[Razushu]

I kinda agree, But I don't think it'd be a big problem, Like i said, I'll likely do an Outside and Inside test, I'm just vastly curious where a SMN melee would stand in both terms of DD vs a Real Melee, and DD vs our Avatars. I suspect great things to come.

Then theres no problem, a baseline test(outside), and one in the best scenario(Abyssea) could yield some interesting results in comparison. Although I'm more waiting for the baseline than the other.

I'm looking forward to seeing:

Avatar Vs. SMN

Avatar+ SMN Vs. WAR

*SMN(no pet) Vs. WAR

*This one because it will be the truest test of a mage(SMN in this case) meleeing.

[Karbuncle]

My problem will be deciding between Keeping Aftermath up, or using a Decent WS for over-all damage. (Retribution can hit some pretty wonky numbers, especially with the right WS Gear).

Might have to run a few different tests in the long run.

[Korpg]

My problem will be deciding between Keeping Aftermath up, or using a Decent WS for over-all damage. (Retribution can hit some pretty wonky numbers, especially with the right WS Gear).

Might have to run a few different tests in the long run.

I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.

[Karbuncle]

I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.

Probably stick to keeping Aftermath up then (Myrkr recovers MP), Just use Mass MP Gear as "WS" gear, since its a % Recovery.

I think its doable...

[Razushu]

I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.

Yeah you'll probably be tied in to Myrkr, or at the least Spirit Taker.

[Dallas]

Don't worry about other WS options besides Myrkr. SE is promising a way around the BP timer cap. Likely by the time you get all gear, BPs will operate as a function of mp recovery (basically at WS speed). No WS is going to replace a BP.

[Leonlionheart]

Don't worry about other WS options besides Myrkr. SE is promising a way around the BP timer cap. Likely by the time you get all gear, BPs will operate as a function of mp recovery (basically at WS speed). No WS is going to replace a BP.

Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds