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    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    My problem will be deciding between Keeping Aftermath up, or using a Decent WS for over-all damage. (Retribution can hit some pretty wonky numbers, especially with the right WS Gear).

    Might have to run a few different tests in the long run.
    I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.
    Probably stick to keeping Aftermath up then (Myrkr recovers MP), Just use Mass MP Gear as "WS" gear, since its a % Recovery.

    I think its doable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I think your main problem will be MP. Since being in full melee gear would lose out a lot on perp gear.
    Yeah you'll probably be tied in to Myrkr, or at the least Spirit Taker.
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
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    Don't worry about other WS options besides Myrkr. SE is promising a way around the BP timer cap. Likely by the time you get all gear, BPs will operate as a function of mp recovery (basically at WS speed). No WS is going to replace a BP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Don't worry about other WS options besides Myrkr. SE is promising a way around the BP timer cap. Likely by the time you get all gear, BPs will operate as a function of mp recovery (basically at WS speed). No WS is going to replace a BP.
    Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds
    Even if they did he would be completely out of MP is ~45 sec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds
    Funny, we've fallen back on WAR stealing credit for a group again, huh? This time in tank mode, but never killing off anything and never spending any time WSing.

    Focus please. Unbuffed, so back to 360 MP every 23 seconds. Will SE allow avatars to double BP rate for a price? Likely. More than 1000 mp/minute? Not likely.
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    Oh wow. You know what would be really awesome? Attaching "additional effect: reset spells and abilities" to the L95 version of Myrkr. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Funny, we've fallen back on WAR stealing credit for a group again, huh? This time in tank mode, but never killing off anything and never spending any time WSing.

    Focus please. Unbuffed, so back to 360 MP every 23 seconds. Will SE allow avatars to double BP rate for a price? Likely. More than 1000 mp/minute? Not likely.
    Except you can't get 100% TP in 23 seconds. More like 45 seconds. Lets be realistic here. You got to add the time it takes away from casting cure on yourself from getting AoE spammed, Blood Pacting, and all those misses you will have.
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    Why yes, I do in fact believe that it is stupid to compare a hybrid job to a one-trick pony like whm or war. Even in 2006, when stupid was fstill fresh, they invited SMN to main heal because it had buffs and DD.
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    Last edited by Dallas; 08-17-2011 at 04:19 AM.

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