Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Raksha]

In regards to support capability, we’re thinking more in the direction of adjustments that will differ from white mage.

Instead of just simply adding a high-tier Cure, we’re looking into making it so scholars can raise their performance further by enhancing the effects of stratagem use and regen-type magic. However, this doesn’t mean that we won’t be adding a high-tier Cure later down the line.

Tank: I'm in the red! Medic!
SCH: I got this. (casts regen-type spell)
Tank: What was that?
SCH: Don't worry, you'll be good as new in five minutes.
*tank dies*

While this isn’t impossible, we would need to change the magic rules and it would take some time to do so. Additionally, we would need to consider the fact that other jobs would then be able to do this as well and adjustments would be necessary.

Giving WHM AoE RR3 would be a pleasant side effect. I say do it.

We would like to look into adding an effect to storm spells so that the magic critical rate will increase for the respective element when you are under their effects.

Nice, I guess, but Magic Crit never really impressed me because of the randomness.

We are planning to add a higher tier Gravity as a spell to reduce an enemy’s evasion. We will also be looking into spells that give the effect of subtle blow.

Gravity II and Auspice II? Surely you're not giving those to SCH?

{Spell that increases WS damage}
Though careful adjustments are necessary in regards to balance, we would like to look into this.

Not sure what the point is really, though I guess it kinda fits with Immanence.

{Decoy}
Balance wise, there is a chance this is possible if it only covers a single enhancement effect. It would probably have a weak effect against special abilities that remove multiple enhancement effects at once. In the case that this were made into an ability, when considering the stats, the recast timer would probably be quite long.

Don't think I understood this, are they asking about a buff that protects your other buffs from dispel? Sounds neat but situational.

For sphere effects, there would be no way of handling the opposite enfeebling effects, such as Slow versus Haste effects. This makes it an extremely powerful spell, so from a balance perspective it will not be easy to do.

Who the hell is asking for Sphere effects? And why isn't Sphere: haste exactly the same as regular haste?

{Pet stuff}
This is something that seems like it would be better suited to explore with pet jobs than scholar.

/facepalm

{SCH specific spells}
You all have been posting a ton of ideas about this!

We are currently looking over all of them and considering each and every one. Please give us a bit of time so we can work on some plans.

First time for everything I guess.

[Karbuncle]

I hear being a dick to the messenger always helps and makes them feel good.

You people have gotten 3 different updates, Visit other jobs forums who have gotten 0 and then come back and complain.

Some of the questions are derp but at least you're getting answers.

[Coldbrand]

I'd have to agree with the Scholars who think they should be the ones getting Ultima considering its non-elemental nature. Even if it has a huge recast, you need to put Ultima in this game. It's mandatory to meet the credentials of a true FF game.

[Siiri]

I hear being a dick to the messenger always helps and makes them feel good.

You people have gotten 3 different updates, Visit other jobs forums who have gotten 0 and then come back and complain.

Some of the questions are derp but at least you're getting answers.

Seriously, can any other job get some answers? It's been all scholar all the time. Not the community reps causing this, they just reporting what they given. We are in serious need of other updates though besides scholar.

[Tarumage]

I hear being a dick to the messenger always helps and makes them feel good.

You people have gotten 3 different updates, Visit other jobs forums who have gotten 0 and then come back and complain.

Some of the questions are derp but at least you're getting answers.

Getting responses to derp questions doesn't really help us out.

[Raksha]

I hear being a dick to the messenger always helps and makes them feel good.

You people have gotten 3 different updates, Visit other jobs forums who have gotten 0 and then come back and complain.

Some of the questions are derp but at least you're getting answers.

I wasnt being a dick to the messenger, I was critiquing the questions and answers. Where do you see me "Being a dick to the messengers"?


I assume the other jobs Q&A are cooking, but since I don't have any control over which question gets answered I can only respond to what's been released.

Like I said in the other thread, It's not my fault they wasted 3 posts worth of questions when they really only needed half of one.

[Airget]

<_< hope they actually take my idea on SCH into account it would actually give them unique support abilities that WHM and BLM don't have but I guess we'll wait and see what they decide to do with SCH lol. A 3 parter with SCH though honestly nothing really caught my eye overall with what they said, if they gave us more examples as to SCH specific spells that aren't 2hr related then perhaps they would've been more informative, but it does feel more like a wait and see response to each question lol.

Though I do agree I don't see SCH getting Cure V since WHM V VI is what makes them unique, you have to off-set unique abilities in certain ways.

SCH Idea

I wasn't going to post the above link however I do wonder if they actually looked at it. IMO I think this would support "In regards to support capability, we’re thinking more in the direction of adjustments that will differ from white mage."

The basic premise behind this idea is the ability to cast spells that can turn enfeebles into status enhancements as well as grant immunity to said enfeeble til the spell wears off. The limit is basically you can only have one type of this enhancement up at a time so you can't be hit with Bad Breath and have a SCH cast all the "backfire" spells on you to pump up your capabilities.

Then on the Flip-side with Elemental magic I figured why not create a unique shield that can absorb a specific magic type of damage. Basically you use a strategm that turns your next elemental spell into a player target which "hits" them and the damage that it would've been is now the elemental magic shield you have. The limit with that is you can only have 1 magic shield active at a time so it would mainly be useful against mobs that stick with one elemental magic rather then those that use multiple elements.

But ya, I hope they give us an actual taste of spells that they have in mind cause it is true,if you just improve regen it really won't do much for SCH unless you can buff it up to actually be viable in an HNM situation.

[Karbuncle]

I wasnt being a dick to the messenger, I was critiquing the questions and answers. Where do you see me "Being a dick to the messengers"?

This part just seemed like you were implying they never ever give our responses to the devs:

First time for everything I guess.

In response to them "giving all the feedback" to the team. I could be reading you wrong, But it sounded like you accusing them of not doing their job. which is kinda being a dick, considering everything they do for us.

Getting responses to derp questions doesn't really help us out.

Like 2-3 of them were derp, out of about 20? Thats a good ratio considering the 0/0 that jobs like PLD, BRD, and WHM (to name a few) have gotten.... A lot of those questions hinted at new abilities/spells SCH would get...

I thought the info was good... left room to speculate but provided a lot.

not saying you can't facepalm about some of the very derp questions (Like say, RNG got one saying "I want 100% Rapid shot" which was WTF), just the comment i quoted above, if im reading it was, was incredibly unnecessary.

[Raksha]

This part just seemed like you were implying they never ever give our responses to the devs:



In response to them "giving all the feedback" to the team. I could be reading you wrong, But it sounded like you accusing them of not doing their job.

No, I was saying it's nice that the dev team is finally considering our suggestions, not that the mods weren't doing their jobs. I <3 the mods.

And seriously, maybe 5 of the questions over all 3 posts were things which people have actually wanted responses to.

I'll be the first person to say that SCH isn't all that bad off. And that PLD and others need way more work than we do.

[Karbuncle]

No, I was saying it's nice that the dev team is finally considering our suggestions, not that the mods weren't doing their jobs. I <3 the mods.

And seriously, maybe 5 of the questions over all 3 posts were things which I have actually wanted responses to.

I fixed the last part for you... They got the questions from somewhere so someone wanted them answered... If anyones to blame its the other languages/threads/forum-sections where they got these incredibly derp-rated questions from.

Either way, If thats the case, Obviously i retract my statement, When i read that last past it sounded like you were saying what i explained above.

I just see a lot of pointless bashing of Community reps around here, and that last one seemed off. Nothing more, continue your business then!