any1 else ready to boost to level 60 and skip story?

I'm ready to drop WoW for this.

No because yo can get to 60 in week and hafe that time maybe 7-14days to finsh the story, waste of 45$ in my book.

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Originally Posted by Hazuki87

No because yo can get to 60 in week and it time maybe 7-14days to finsh the story, waste of 45$ in my book.

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Ya but this is why they released it is because people wanted it.

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Originally Posted by Hazuki87

No because yo can get to 60 in week and hafe that time maybe 7-14days to finsh the story, waste of 45$ in my book.

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$45 is two and a half cases of angry orchard, or two big bottles of 151.

Ppl that cry over it, yes, I can see it now, ppl getting kick form partys for being "jump potions noob" and not knowing how to play their job, sad but true.

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Originally Posted by Hazuki87

Ppl that cry over it, yes, I can see it now, ppl getting kick form partys for being "jump potions noob" and not knowing how to play their job, sad but true.

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No more or less then "FATE spam noobs" or "potd noobs".

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Originally Posted by cporter

I'm ready to drop WoW for this.

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Then bring it. Just read up on abilties, some guides to your fav job, don't be afraid to ask questions if you're confused, and play.

I can't wait for people who are too lazy to watch the cut-scenes in the inn cry "spoilers" when people in shout are talking about events of 2.0 and 3.0.

Might as well put packs of 450 tomestones on the cash shop too, why not?

I got other games to play. If I can skip I'll gladly pay.

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Originally Posted by Hazuki87

No because yo can get to 60 in week and hafe that time maybe 7-14days to finsh the story, waste of 45$ in my book.

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I love the story.. But this statement actually made sense to you? 2 weeks to finish a story people may not care about to play with their friends if they are just starting? No. I'm so happy you aren't a dev. It doesn't take long to learn a few button rotation.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

No more or less then "FATE spam noobs" or "potd noobs".

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those people won't be in any advanced content either because they still haven't done MSQ. If you've done MSQ you've at least done some duties. So, you should be a little familiar with how to play.

I want to skip the 60-70 story so I can craft and gather

If I had that buy-able option I would
(edit forgot put my friend said this)

Nope. /10char

If your are planing on playing samurai or redmage from the start i would encourage you to go through the heavensward story to level one.

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Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari

I love the story.. But this statement actually made sense to you? 2 weeks to finish a story people may not care about to play with their friends if they are just starting? No. I'm so happy you aren't a dev. It doesn't take long to learn a few button rotation.

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This is literally why they were added. I like the story, too, but that's the option. If it doesn't interest you, then you have the option.

As long as there are still tools to help teach new players that jumped, who cares? You're going to meet good players and bad players no matter what.

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Originally Posted by savageink

those people won't be in any advanced content either because they still haven't done MSQ. If you've done MSQ you've at least done some duties. So, you should be a little familiar with how to play.

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Advanced content? It is leveling content. MSQ content is leveling content that has little to no checks. You can get through MSQ content spamming moves without any real rotation. You can get as much familiarity running your job through the MSQ as you would just practicing on a test dummy, or you can potentially learn nothing. (People have leveled through the MSQ for several years now and don't have a familiarity with their jobs.)

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Originally Posted by Darkstorms

If your are planing on playing samurai or redmage from the start i would encourage you to go through the heavensward story to level one.

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I hate to say it but from a story perspective, starting at Heavensward makes less sense than skipping it. The end of HW wrapped up a lot of dangling plot threads. If you start at HW you are stuck with Why am I an outcast? Who's this kid I'm always talking to? Who's that guy in the jail? Why am I looking for a bunch of people I've never met? etc. It's like watching Return of the Jedi without seeing Empire Strikes Back. If they are going to skip, SB is a lot cleaner.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Advanced content? It is leveling content. MSQ content is leveling content that has little to no checks. You can get through MSQ content spamming moves without any real rotation. You can get as much familiarity running your job through the MSQ as you would just practicing on a test dummy, or you can potentially learn nothing. (People have leveled through the MSQ for several years now and don't have a familiarity with their jobs.)

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I didn't say it was great experience. But better than fates or soloable dungeons.

Why do you want to skip it?

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Originally Posted by savageink

I didn't say it was great experience. But better than fates or soloable dungeons.

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Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.

You're free to skip past story and whatnot, ignore most of the game, not give a care what anything is about... your decision, I guess. But in my opinion you are cheating yourself, and have no idea what you're missing.

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Originally Posted by Cyreil

Why do you want to skip it?

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Some people do not care for it:

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Originally Posted by Hamada

I want to skip the 60-70 story so I can craft and gather

If I had that buy-able option I would
(edit forgot put my friend said this)

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Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.

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No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

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No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

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Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

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Originally Posted by savageink

but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

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You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

I'm ready. I've got three alts I've never had the time to level through to endgame, and grind (oh so much grind) back up through the MSQ again.

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Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari

Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

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I'm talking about things in the MSQ. And reading about stuff is different then doing it. So, yeah, I'm sure you read some notes about your role and were perfect from day one.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

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And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than Fates and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

I thought this is a good idea for players who lost their account somehow... or simple doesn't want to deal with the leveling.

I was going to get them for my friend who's account was banned because of financial dispute with SE (he said he didn't sub but SE won't refund so he disputed the CC charge and then.. ban

but he absolutely refuses to play FF14 again... even when I bought a copy for him and installed on his PC.

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And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than the MSQ and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

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If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.

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Originally Posted by Cyreil

Why do you want to skip it?

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I'm an experienced WoW player. I'm ready for any MMo.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.

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I was talking about both and you are focusing on one. OK. You tell me how somebody can learn to work properly at their job so they can run dungeons while only having real in game experience running FATEs?

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I was talking about both and you are focusing on one. OK. You tell me how somebody can learn to work properly at their job so they can run dungeons while only having real in game experience running FATEs?

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Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

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Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

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I wouldn't go that far but I'm def ready for basic farming of dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari

Because it's not hard to learn a rotation. It's so simple it's amazing you still can't grasp it.

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And you are ignorable. So from now on I will.

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I was talking about both and you are focusing on one. OK. You tell me how somebody can learn to work properly at their job so they can run dungeons while only having real in game experience running FATEs?

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You mean learn mechanics. The same way everyone does. By doing the dungeon and learning mechanics, but that doesn't mean they don't know how to work their job properly. Or are you saying you don't know your job rotation, skills and workings because you haven't experienced mechanics?

I love paying a company to not play a game.

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Originally Posted by savageink

And you are ignorable. So from now on I will.

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I'm sorry you over complicate simple things. Your problem, not ours.

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Originally Posted by Maliki_Ozari

I'm sorry you over complicate simple things. Your problem, not ours.

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Meh. You have no respect for the genre.

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Originally Posted by cporter

Meh. You have no respect for the genre.

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Interesting statement. Care to elaborate? I don't find learning a rotation to be difficult and to you that translates to me not respecting the genre?

Uh, ok.