It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The addition of features such as Trusts strongly erodes the 'It's an MMO' argument. Plenty of players go through the game these days doing their own thing and avoid player interaction where possible. By your logic, Trusts should never have been added to the game.

Should the OP's suggestion be implemented into the game itself there would be some players who made use of it and others who do not - so you wouldn't be missing out at all. You'd still have the potential for people to admire your glamour (assuming they even noticed it in the first place).

Ultimately, it's a matter of compromising. Which is exactly what led to Trusts being added to the game.

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That is utterly and completely wrong sir. Trusts were added to the game because of absolutely ridiculous que times.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

*Stares at OP's main's lodestone, where they're currently wearing a cutesy, yellow dress and Krile's hood as a PLD*
*sees they're part of what appears to be a glamour-based FC*
Something smells fishy here... >x>

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Yes, I Co-lead a glamour based FC. We have glamour events often, and I love the galmour system.

When I mentioned "I know people who Glam dresses on guys and all of them, literally every single one of them does it to troll,' it's SPECIFICALLy, BECAUSE I lead a glamour based FC and people on my server know us to be fashionista. (So most people who are very serious about glam hang out with us)

I do not hate glamour. But I do hate that I cannot choose to hide player glamour, when so often player glamour is used to rile, upset and troll people.

PS, 99%of my glamour are other plate peices, you just so happy to see my profile when I was messing around with stuff. That does not change the facts that I love glamour, and also feel like I should be able to hide some people 'EXPRESSING' to the community they only want to be obnoxious.

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Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia

Yes, I Co-lead a glamour based FC. We have glamour events often, and I love the galmour system.

When I mentioned "I know people who Glam dresses on guys and all of them, literally every single one of them does it to troll,' it's SPECIFICALLy, BECAUSE I lead a glamour based FC and people on my server know us to be fashionista. (So most people who are very serious about glam hang out with us)

I do not hate glamour. But I do hate that I cannot choose to hide player glamour, when so often player glamour is used to rile, upset and troll people.

PS, 99%of my glamour are other plate peices, you just so happy to see my profile when I was messing around with stuff. That does not change the facts that I love glamour, and also feel like I should be able to hide some people 'EXPRESSING' to the community they only want to be obnoxious.

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So, anecdotally to you, people who have garrish and gaudy glamour do so solely to rile and entice a reaction from others? And because of this you want to request a system that undermines any effort people have in expressing and displaying such things for others to see based solely on the notion that a small percentage of others are ruining it for everyone else?

Like I get what you're asking, but...

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Originally Posted by Joven

I would say that glamours aren't "canon" in the sense that, unless it's a quest/class related piece of gear, no character reacts to what you're wearing. If you roll up in a man-kini and Namazu head no NPC exclaims something like "what an...interesting outfit you've chosen." Just because it's a side quest doesn't make it part of the world as a whole. It's a grey area of existing within the game, but only as something as a game function, not as a world function.

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And most NPCs don’t react to what species you are so I can traipse all over Eorzea as a giant purple lizardman with no one so much as batting an eye despite the fact Auri are almost never seen in Eorzea. Even factoring in Au Ra not being in ARR, the fact Yugiri was trying to minimize showing her actual species still says a lot about how unusual it is.

It is exceedingly rare to have race acknowledged period, whether it’s logical or not (Raen and majority of Xaela NPCs treat PCs the same as any other race, even though logically with the latter at least there should be some familiarity but apparently there’s only 2 or 3 that give special dialogue to Xaela players). As such, the only reason NPCs don’t react to completely silly glams is simply because how the heck would you even code recognition of ridiculous glams? Actually, try defining “ridiculous glams” to a parser of all things. It’s not worth the effort to code in and so NPCs are blind to it.

No one comments on Jandelaine’s more major changes either even though Aesthetician is definitely canon. No one’s going to comment on what you did to your hair (even if it’s the giant pomp in some crazy color) or any facial plastic surgery you do.

I stand by that glamours are canon simply because they are at least somewhat acknowledged just like Jandelaine is acknowledged. I actually like that this game incorporated them into lore instead of simply making them “just is” like WoW’s transmog system. “NPCs don’t react at all” is very poor argument because they never respond to anything that involves customization period.

And ironically, by your exact same comment, you supported my argument here because if you were hypothetically wearing the actual mankini with a Namazu head, they still aren’t going to react even though you are actually wearing a ridiculous outfit. And yes, the mascot suits are canon considering we have NPCs that wear them. >.>;

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

I am of the stance of live and let live. To me, you are going against that stance by stating people absolutely have to see your glamour and you are opposed to them having any choice to the contrary.

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By that logic you can run outside and change someones clothes for them because you don't like it. Childish to say the least. A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere. square decided that they would now to be portrayed and you are upset about it. Plus I am not forcing anyone to "look" at me. If you hate it so much leave. If it bothers you in your dungeon use trust, or find like minded individuals These are choices you just are too stubborn to use. If you are going to try to block everything you hate, I'd say you need to evaluate you choice in game genres.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

So, anecdotally to you, people who have garrish and gaudy glamour do so solely to rile and entice a reaction from others? And because of this you want to request a system that undermines any effort people have in expressing and displaying such things for others to see based solely on the notion that a small percentage of others are ruining it for everyone else?

Like I get what you're asking, but...

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No. I'm saying that myself, and everyone else, should be able to click a glamour filter and disable glamour if someone is wearing something abrasive, or using glamour only to instigate angst. Just like the profanity filter, if your 'Expressing yourself' is offensive to me, I should be able to protect my gameplay experience (Be it immersion or a desire to not be trolled) with a filter option.

You also imply that anecdotal evidence is somehow invalid. This isn't a topic with an empirical measure. No one can present anything other than anecdotal evidence.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

By that logic you can run outside and change someones clothes for them because you don't like it. Childish to say the least. A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere. square decided that they would now to be portrayed and you are upset about it. Plus I am not forcing anyone to "look" at me. If you hate it so much leave. If it bothers you in your dungeon use trust, or find like minded individuals These are choices you just are too stubborn to use. If you are going to try to block everything you hate, I'd say you need to evaluate you choice in game genres.

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Well. Votekick is also an option. Might need to start giving it a try :)

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

By that logic you can run outside and change someones clothes for them because you don't like it. Childish to say the least. A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere. square decided that they would now to be portrayed and you are upset about it. Plus I am not forcing anyone to "look" at me. If you hate it so much leave. If it bothers you in your dungeon use trust, or find like minded individuals These are choices you just are too stubborn to use. If you are going to try to block everything you hate, I'd say you need to evaluate you choice in game genres.

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In RL I could look away from you or walk away. In the game I may be forced to do a dungeon with you and look upon you. I guess the crux of it again is, obviously this feature is not possible in RL, but an MMO is all about player choices is it not? We can't turn on the profanity filter to silence someone IRL either, but we can do it here. I still don't see how it hurts you just because you can't display your glamour choice for every single person in the game.

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Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia

Well. Votekick is also an option. Might need to start giving it a try :)

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Yeah, so is the report button. Also the statement right before kicking that states you must have a valid reason to kick someone or it is a punishable offence. Though I understand your frustration. You can't argue the fact so instead try to retort with a snarky comeback that comes off mediocre at best.

Considering that the glamour system is part of the lore, there is no inappropriate gear as far as lore is concerned.

As for the request itself, I'm neutral on it, but there might be technical reasons why SE won't do it.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

In RL I could look away from you or walk away. In the game I may be forced to do a dungeon with you and look upon you. I guess the crux of it again is, obviously this feature is not possible in RL, but an MMO is all about player choices is it not? We can't turn on the profanity filter to silence someone IRL either, but we can do it here. I still don't see how it hurts you just because you can't display your glamour choice for every single person in the game.

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Yes, we call this third person also something you would hopefully notice before purchasing. And still you can walk away sir, you can zoom in on yourself, change the angle, you can leave the instance. No one but yourself is stopping you from doing any number of these things.

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Originally Posted by kujoestars

And most NPCs don’t react to what species you are so I can traipse all over Eorzea as a giant purple lizardman with no one so much as batting an eye despite the fact Auri are almost never seen in Eorzea. Even factoring in Au Ra not being in ARR, the fact Yugiri was trying to minimize showing her actual species still says a lot about how unusual it is.

It is exceedingly rare to have race acknowledged period, whether it’s logical or not (Raen and majority of Xaela NPCs treat PCs the same as any other race, even though logically with the latter at least there should be some familiarity but apparently there’s only 2 or 3 that give special dialogue to Xaela players). As such, the only reason NPCs don’t react to completely silly glams is simply because how the heck would you even code recognition of ridiculous glams? Actually, try defining “ridiculous glams” to a parser of all things. It’s not worth the effort to code in and so NPCs are blind to it.

No one comments on Jandelaine’s more major changes either even though Aesthetician is definitely canon. No one’s going to comment on what you did to your hair (even if it’s the giant pomp in some crazy color) or any facial plastic surgery you do.

I stand by that glamours are canon simply because they are at least somewhat acknowledged just like Jandelaine is acknowledged. I actually like that this game incorporated them into lore instead of simply making them “just is” like WoW’s transmog system.

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Jandelaine was handled way better than the glamours were. Even if no-one reacts to your hairstyle having him around is a unique, in world way to update your appearance whereas glamours were basically just "hey, this thing exists, now you can do it." I would have much preferred it to have been added as just a feature as opposed to trying to shoehorn it into some kind of in-world thing that way. That's what sparks these kinds of "debates" as to what is considered real to the world and what is just a feature to use. If glamours would have been implemented similar to how Jandelaine was it would make more sense. Something like the sylphs wanted express their gratitude for all the help you've given them so one of them decides to either teach you how to use glamour magic, or shows up whenever you want to alter your gear.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, we call this third person also something you would hopefully notice before purchasing. And still you can walk away sir, you can zoom in on yourself, change the angle, you can leave the instance. No one but yourself is stopping you from doing any number of these things.

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So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

What happens when they're actually wearing the shisui set? or lets say we get another high level set that is skimpy?

I'd prefer if the dev time was spent on more important things.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

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People on here constantly use the "well you can/'t do this IRL so it should be that way in the game" argument all the time. There's no reasoning with them as they're incapable of separating fantasy from reality. Better to just save your breath.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

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Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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It's simple. If I'm engrossed in the story, and am in the Hades fight for example, seeing someone in a frog suit jars me right out of that immersion.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.

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Originally Posted by Joven

People on here constantly use the "well you can/'t do this IRL so it should be that way in the game" argument all the time. There's no reasoning with them as they're incapable of separating fantasy from reality. Better to just save your breath.

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Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.

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Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia

how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.

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Clever, however it doesn't harm me. I am of the opinion it is pointless to even block it. People will all come to eventually know of/hear it. It is not really harmful in any sense.

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

What happens when they're actually wearing the shisui set? or lets say we get another high level set that is skimpy?

I'd prefer if the dev time was spent on more important things.

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I think they willingly go blind. Like a white haze clouds their eyes until it passes.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking.

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Well.. yes. And if this were real life and/or I was making public critiques of peoples appearances and choices even for their virtual characters that would be deplorable. However as we are speaking of a change that would only affect the perception of the person who doesn't wish to see such things there is no downside to it unless you're the kind of person who can ONLY enjoy themselves knowing that everyone around them is experiencing exactly what they wish people to see.. which I think is pretty obnoxious by most social standards.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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There are still gameplay elements to be required like knowing your partymates positions and possibly skills they are using, so to a point you do need to know that there are players there and what they are doing. However if we're being totally truthful I wouldn't be opposed to a toggle to not render anyone but myself or pertinent other players in the overworld: People doing the same fate or in close proximity who are targeting the same mobs, however that's another thread for a different day.

interesting topic actually. I mean, sure why not, being able to turn off glamour. It doesnt effect anyones gameplay and people still can glamour whatever they want. I wonder why people are against it so much, it has no effect on you. So many people mod glam in this game anyway, and only they can see it (if others have not the same mods as them) so no harm done. And since so many are pro glamour mods, with the argument it has no effect on other players, it should be no problem if people want to turn it off.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.

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"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.

No, I have paid a fortune and grinded countless hours across 3 characters to assemble my glamour collection. You're going to look at my cute outfits until your eyes melt and you're going to like it.

Also... you think you want to see the chaotic mishmash of random/BiS armour pieces underneath people's glamours but you really don't. That eldritch horror was not meant for mortal eyes.

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Originally Posted by Bonbori

No, I have paid a fortune and grinded countless hours across 3 characters to assemble my glamour collection. You're going to look at my cute outfits until your eyes melt and you're going to like it.

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I guess that sums up the argument of the opposing side right there.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

It's simple. If I'm engrossed in the story, and am in the Hades fight for example, seeing someone in a frog suit jars me right out of that immersion.

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Make a party of 8 friends. I mean you did say something along the line of player choice. You have the choice to do this. Not only that your immersion won't be broken. And it bothers you it doesn't harm you. Lets not try to make the impact of the frog seem bigger then it is. Make your own party join a strict glam FCs (they actually exist). You have choices you just refuse to use them.

But there is also many people making glamours that look amazing, some people put a lot of work into the glamours they make and I feel like it would be boring to not see people's glamours.

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

But there is also many people making glamours that look amazing, some people put a lot of work into the glamours they make and I feel like it would be boring to not see people's glamours.

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and.. so you wouldn't use the option. This isn't making anyone do something they don't want to.

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

But there is also many people making glamours that look amazing, some people put a lot of work into the glamours they make and I feel like it would be boring to not see people's glamours.

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Well then I bring up the modding argument again. So many people use mods, the glam so many people put in a lot of thought into is either way a) looking completely different on their part or b) is so broken on their screen that your character is actually naked. Yet so many people say "mods are okay because it doesnt effect the other players gameplay" and neither would do an option to hide someones glam.

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Originally Posted by Joven

"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.

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Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

Honestly, I’d personally like an option to hide all other players. Not just some, but literally ALL. I get it, it’s an MMORPG, but I’m way more interested in the “RPG” part, rather than the “MMO.” Inside dungeons and the like it’s fine, but outside I’d love to go through the MSQ after an update without watching the NPCs just get bombarded by huge crowds. It’s immersion breaking and INCREDIBLY annoying.

I play the game for the story so I’d love it if this were an option.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

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You replied to another poster on here about

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere.

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that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

I feel like after a week of using it you would find out just how boring and mismatched everyone looks that you would end up turning it off. Most people enjoy seeing people's glams or they don't care, seems like a waste of devs time to me.

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Originally Posted by Joven

You replied to another poster on here about that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

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What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
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noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
/ˌsiməˈlerədē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

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Ha, someone is getting a tad overly touchy. It's not that important to get so worked up about.

No-one is denying anyone's character their "identity". You can still glamour as much as you want and other people can see it, just not the ones who opt to use the feature. You can still interact with other people and unless you go out of your way to say "hey, what do you think of my glamour? Isn't it amazing?" nobody is going to know or care about your character's "identity" but you.

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Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia

That's the beauty of it being an option. You don't have to 'Go for it.' It'd be my choice, and you wouldn't know about it either way. You get to live your best life being a fem ro wearing a sailor outfit tanking with a fish in your main hand, and I get to play the game without being disgusted looking at you!

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You're not wrong. Choice is everything. It literally effects nobody but the user who decides to turn off other persons glam. I'll admit i've seen some horrendous glams. Those frogmen costumes freak me the hell out and make me feel super uncomfortable. If i had a way to turn that off, i'd love to - Without affecting anyone else.

Don't mind this idea since its just your preference to your game, but I think it might impact computer performance because it need to load both the glamour and the original models of everyone around you.

There have always been "silly" things that people can glamour since the beginning of the game. un-genderlocked dresses oh no! Was it a problem when female characters glam the wedding dress and do combat content? Technically that might be immersion breaking but I've never seen anyone care about that. But now it's a problem since men can wear dresses. In a fantasy world. This is an MMO. Also there's trusts now if you want to do dungeons fully immersed.

Honestly - no, thanks.

People do their glamours the way they do so people would see their characters just like this. No matter how much people say about glamour being not a content, it takes a big place in community.

No matter how much I don't like all the hundreds of characters running around in bikinis and subligars, I have no right to hide their glamours. Those're their characters and that's how they want them to look.

Also, how is this supposed to work in the first place? If it will be a system where you can replace some concrete items with another items - you do realise that somebody could wear on you something what you don't want your character to wear? If it's something like "toggle = character in starting gear" then maaaaaybe it could work. I quess you can say "I don't care how my character looks to others" but honestly, then you should care even less about how others look to you.

Another question - will it work just on one character or on simply everybody? In 1st case such system is just too much expensive to implement imo, and in 2nd it can ruin literally thousands of glamours around you (including your own, on top of that).

And the last one: how is this different from modding, in fact?