Hamlet defense feedback from a top 20 provisioner: Critical problems and solutions

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Originally Posted by Quesse

That is not true.

Fatigue directly limits XP gain due to no xp being given when gathering is unsuccessful. In essence it is the same fatigue as DoW/DoM had but just implemented differently. Your xp gain decreases over time and eventually reaches zero. It is the same outcome.

If it was solely and RMT measure then you would still be able to complete the gathering action and gain XP but the item would simply break. That is not the case.

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wait
no exp is given when you dont gather succesfuly?

i thinks you have no idea what fatigue is then, cuz it sure as hell still gives exp

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Originally Posted by Quesse

That is not true.

Fatigue directly limits XP gain due to no xp being given when gathering is unsuccessful. In essence it is the same fatigue as DoW/DoM had but just implemented differently. Your xp gain decreases over time and eventually reaches zero. It is the same outcome.

If it was solely and RMT measure then you would still be able to complete the gathering action and gain XP but the item would simply break. That is not the case.

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Unsuccessful gathers give half exp of a successful one, so if you are leveling and hit gathering fategue you will level half as fast, also the fategue we did have was influanced by exp, if it was the same fategue you would not beable to get the masses of exp from gathering leves, this is based on how much you gather in one day, not exp based.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Unsuccessful gathers give half exp of a successful one, so if you are leveling and hit gathering fategue you will level half as fast, also the fategue we did have was influanced by exp, if it was the same fategue you would not beable to get the masses of exp from gathering leves, this is based on how much you gather in one day, not exp based.

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gathering fatigue has ALWAYS been based off how much you gather and not exp

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

gathering fatigue has ALWAYS been based off how much you gather and not exp

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I know, but the post I quoted was saying it was the same as DoW/M fatigue, I was just pointing out the flaw in that thought I am actually for gathering fatigue as a measure to prevent RMT knowing compromises must be made, and legitimate players will have to be affected.

Personally I have never hit gathering fatigue, so it doesn't really affect me just yet.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I know, but the post I quoted was saying it was the same as DoW/M fatigue, I was just pointing out the flaw in that thought I am actually for gathering fatigue as a measure to prevent RMT knowing compromises must be made, and legitimate players will have to be affected.

Personally I have never hit gathering fatigue, so it doesn't really affect me just yet.

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actualy, the fatigue they got, we also got too, and it wasnt technicaly called fatigue, but surplus

This may only be prevalent in fishing, but if you fail to land a jig and you get a message that says "the fish got away", you don't get any xp. It's only if you get the message that says to jig in another spot and THEN you fail that you get xp.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

This may only be prevalent in fishing, but if you fail to land a jig and you get a message that says "the fish got away", you don't get any xp. It's only if you get the message that says to jig in another spot and THEN you fail that you get xp.

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yeah that was different then what fatigue does

also, in fishing, that only happens on the first "jig" if you get past the first, youll get exp even if you fail

Well while long, it gave me a lot of info so thank you for the post OP. :)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

actualy, the fatigue they got, we also got too, and it wasnt technicaly called fatigue, but surplus

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I know everyone got it, but it was mainly the DoW/M that voiced complaints, and it was officially called fatigue, we just called it surplus, because it said we gained surplus exp.

From the 1.18 patch notes:

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[dev1120] The fatigue system and surplus points have been abolished.
Any surplus points accumulated before the patch will be lost.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.18-Notes

I think the OP post was well thought out and very constructive! A+ and I agree with you on your points for sure. I do like the firecrackers I got though, lol.

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

I was a top 20 provisioner for Hamlet Defense on Durandal and I wanted to give my complete feedback regarding the event.

For the supply phase I spent an unhealthy 12-18 hours turning in botany items. This was over a two day period, and I also spent a good chunk of time crafting while I waited to get out of botany fatigue. Despite this, I was only able to secure the #15 position, and being that I fell from position 12, down to 17, and was able to get back up to 15, I barely secured the spot.

What did top 20 provisioner do? Top 20 provisioner allows one to have a second chance at another item when talking to the Militia Captain. This is a chance, and not guarenteed. So after you spend the better part of your waking two days doing botany, you can't actually collect any reward unless you involve yourself for a third day. So in total, to receive your provisioner rewards you have to spend three total days completely focused...

The 3 days demanded of the provisioners is only good if people continue to do Hamlet Defense. As the day went on it became harder and harder to get players, because no one was getting rewarded despite putting in several hours of combined effort. Eventually it got to a point where I was throwing rag-tag combinations together trying to get a kill, but for the last 5-7 hours I didn't secure another defense, simply because the players were losing interest; on the very first day the content was available...

Problem 1:
Phase 1 has negative effects on your life in order to receive the reward; and if you don't make it in the top 20 for the extra chance, what's your motivation to turn in items?

Potential Solution 1:
Shorten Phase 1 to 24 hours.
Add thresholds players can cross to turn in items, once they turn in the maximum threshold their contribution to the hamlet is complete, and they secure the extra bonus. This can keep this a 2-4 hour event rather than a 2 day event; and encourages everyone to contribute - not just the players who have 3 days in a row available.

Problem 3:
Players aren't happy with the reward ratio at poorer performance levels. This will hurt the future of gatherers supplying because the adventurers aren't participating, and it will make players less likely to reach the current provisioning top 20.

Solution 3:
Increase the chance of reward to keep players motivated to participate; otherwise it's just going to collapse on itself.

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Hi Platinum,

Fantastic post.

Very well thought out and I totally agree with you. I hope Yoshida-san & Team looks at your post and we see some improvements.

I participated in the 1st round (and saw you shouting for groups) and am participating in this 2nd round now (after the buzz has died down) and even trying to put in a solid ~6+ hours a day, for 2 days in a row, isn't enough to break the Top 20 on our server. You mentioned you had to drop 12 - 18 hours to get there. Yikes.

So without that (but still contributing a solid amount), we got in some solid wins (in the ~25,000 - 30,000 range), but everyone in our party received... Dark Matter for the entire day.

Of course drops should be rare, but hearing reports from Doctor Mog (breaking 40,000) and one of my friends (a Top 5 Contributor and breaking 40,000) getting NOTHING but Dark Matter is really discouraging. :(

Part of it is that there just aren't that many Militia Items right now and maybe they want to extend the "rarity" & Time Sink aspect of it, but it's quite sad to see how things are progressing.

I think most of your suggestions would resolve many of the issues with Hamlet Defense.

I definitely agree that having a Turn-In Threshold (where once you turn in enough Items, you "cross" that Threshold and are guaranteed a 2nd Chance at an Item), is MUCH healthier and more satisfactory than *having* to break the Top 20, *and* then participating in a winning Hamlet Defense just for a *chance* at a drop. With a Maximum Threshold, players can then reach that limit and then take a break and do other things. It also allows more players to get a chance at a 2nd / Better Loot Pool.

The amount of time investment to break the Top 20 (via Gathering & Crafting), and then spending a 3rd Day in a row spamming Hamlet Defense with wins just for a small chance at a Militia Item is too punitive and discouraging for many.

And as you say, the Drop Rates are too low. If ONLY the Top 20 Contributor gets a realistic chance at a drop, what incentivizes *anyone else* (especially those that are only Disciples of War / Magic) to participate and help out?

For Fun? Maybe a few times... then they'll get bored and stop.

I don't think anyone's asking for Dzemael Darkhold-like drop rates (basically 100% from Batraal), but the Drop Rates are practically nil right now and even being in the Top 20 doesn't guarantee you much of anything.

One last solution is an ongoing Cumulative Running Point System (so you Earn Points that you can trade in for Items). At least with a Point System EVERYONE has a chance to work their way towards a goal (some rare / nice Militia Item) and they know they're making progress & not wasting time.

Especially with a 50 Hour "Lockout" Period (Supply), before the actual Defense starts. There's more than enough of a "Time Sink" with this limitation already, without the need for infinitesimally small Drop Rates.

Here's to hoping we get some attention on this.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Airget

Like looking at it like this one could say, no one will want to gather on Monday/Tuesday cause the battle is on a Wednesday, but Thursday Friday is better since it's on a Saturday. With such a short duration to the battle, to gather items to reach the Top 20 just to be able to make use of it for 3-4hrs just isn't worth it. In the concept that say you did gather on MT to get Top 20 then on Wednesday you get home at 6 and maybe get a party going on at 7, then you only have 5hrs to make use of it, if you have til 12am to do it lol.

The standby phase is just way to long compared to the battle phase and the fact that you lose everything that's gained is just a real kick to the nads lol. It should be more dynamic. Rather then a straight up 50/25. Have the supplies determine how long the fight goes on for starting at a base of 24hrs.

So say the cap was 2mil for rank 2. For every 1mil gathered the forces can fight on for another 12hrs. So not only does 2mil grant you Rank 2 but it also increases the duration of the fight to a total of 48hrs (maybe a cap of 72hr aka 3 days of hamlet active). If it was done like this then I could accept it being brought back down to 0 after all is said and done but to have to have people grind like this constantly every 50hrs just to the current top rank is pretty messed up. It's like they didn't even take the time to setup some sort of system to base how much should be lost after a battle since it is pretty ridiculous to think that ALL the materials are used up once the fight is over.

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Hi Airget,

Great points. Definitely agree.

Spending so much time trying to break the Top 20, only to then have to spend the 3rd Day (if it's a weeknight), trying to reap the rewards of your hard work (and for many, they only get ~3 - 5 hours if they're lucky on a weeknight), is too punitive.

One way is as you mentioned, having the amount of contribution extend the Defense (Battle) Period more than 24 hours. (To get more time to try and win items.)

Or, another way might be to increase the Drop Rate for being Top 20 (or reaching a Max Threshold as the OP suggests), so that even though you can only invest 3 - 5 hours, at least, you have a better chance than what we have now.

Agree 100% about having so little time to take advantage of all your efforts in getting into the top20. In fact, thats why I didnt even bother donating this round. I plan on saving up materials for the next round so I can atleast get a lot of runs in Friday night. My main concern is that I wont be able to find people to do Hamlet with . . . we shall see. I am also very skeptical of Hamlets getting to Lv2 once the other two are released.

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi Airget,

Great points. Definitely agree.

Spending so much time trying to break the Top 20, only to then have to spend the 3rd Day (if it's a weeknight), trying to reap the rewards of your hard work (and for many, they only get ~3 - 5 hours if they're lucky on a weeknight), is too punitive.

One way is as you mentioned, having the amount of contribution extend the Defense (Battle) Period more than 24 hours. (To get more time to try and win items.)

Or, another way might be to increase the Drop Rate for being Top 20 (or reaching a Max Threshold as the OP suggests), so that even though you can only invest 3 - 5 hours, at least, you have a better chance than what we have now.

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Ya a treshold idea would defintely work better then a Top 20, the competition it creates just makes the item sink to huge for it's reward gains, I do hope they touch upon this issue soon cause it it true that the way it stands now all Hamlet will be used for is regaining anima when you are running low on it lol.

But that's also where the idea of the other 2 Hamlets working in a completely different way come in, I do hope they have plans of making the party requirements for those different where the one now can be seen as a Normal party setup. The other one can be seen as a Light party and the 3rd one could be an alliance. At least in this way all 3 Hamelts would have their own unique flavor to them and people who complain about not enough 8+ events will finally have one they can do with others.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Agree 100% about having so little time to take advantage of all your efforts in getting into the top20. In fact, thats why I didnt even bother donating this round. I plan on saving up materials for the next round so I can atleast get a lot of runs in Friday night. My main concern is that I wont be able to find people to do Hamlet with . . . we shall see. I am also very skeptical of Hamlets getting to Lv2 once the other two are released.

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Same here, I turned in once and when I saw that it reset completely I went... hm ya think I'll wait for a weekend lol. They gotta lower the sink a bit, at first the sink looked great because we weren't sure how it would turn out after the battle, but seeing as it resets completely just makes the whole ordeal fruitless when attempting to do it so you can gain that extra chance at an item..

As far as the treshold goes though I would say 200k is a good treshold to gain the benefits since it does seem a majority of people can aim that high, and if they can't do it in the process of a 50hr run then they can just stock up on items and turn them in when they know they are going to be doing a lot of runs.

In perspective 200k=20 stacks of NQ materials, 2 stacks of HQ materials, 2 stacks NQ crafted items of 20 HQ crafted items turned in.

That's still 200 synths at max in a 50hr process so being able to get 200k every other run wouldnt' be that imbalanced and as for materials if you were to get 5 of x materials a cut every 4 cuts, that's about 400 cuts if you were to get said materials 4/8 cuts which would still be 100 trees lol.

I think my math is right, hopefully they do something like this since the sink will still be there but it won't be as overclocked as it is now.

We had 3 of our ls members in the top 20 and beat the defense phase I think around 10 times today. Nothing but dm and prism's from the chest. And only a few off hand tools for the people in the top 20 which is by no means nothing to write home about for stats...and one of our members was number one in the top 20 also.

I realize that they can't give a fantastic drop everytime but come on SE this is alot of hard work and time people put into this, lets give them what they deserve for their hard work, otherwise it's just another meh content...

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Originally Posted by Sartori

We had 3 of our ls members in the top 20 and beat the defense phase I think around 10 times today. Nothing but dm and prism's from the chest. And only a few off hand tools for the people in the top 20 which is by no means nothing to write home about for stats...and one of our members was number one in the top 20 also.

I realize that they can't give a fantastic drop everytime but come on SE this is alot of hard work and time people put into this, lets give them what they deserve for their hard work, otherwise it's just another meh content...

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14 runs today(so far), we had 3 drops so far with top 20s in the party

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

14 runs today(so far), we had 3 drops so far with top 20s in the party

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Anything good though?

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Anything good though?

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Sledgehammer, Mortar, and Bracelet(and lets be honest in the end though, a drop is a drop when they are all rare)

I agree with Platinum. During the preparation phase I fished for 10 to 12 hours, both days, and secured a spot in 6th for the provisioner's list. I haven't done a stretch of fishing that long since I got my golden rod, and it definitely is unhealthy. The reward system doesn't help that fact at all. I know that when Limsa gets its hamlet, I'll be repeating my long stretches of fishing for a chance at that fishing hat, but I'm not looking forward to how it'll affect me.

Props to the OP. Very well thought out post.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

I know that when Limsa gets its hamlet, I'll be repeating my long stretches of fishing for a chance at that fishing hat, but I'm not looking forward to how it'll affect me.

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Wait, do you know how to get the various hats?!

Assuming they are guild-to-region specific, that should mean the Botany hat is already accessable...

More info prz!

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Wait, do you know how to get the various hats?!

Assuming they are guild-to-region specific, that should mean the Botany hat is already accessable...

More info prz!

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I don't have any info, it's just an assumption. Yoshi said the fish hat wouldn't be available until 1.22a, which is when Limsa is getting its hamlet defense. I figured that meant that each region would have its own hat, so Gridania gets the BTN hat, Ul'dah get the MNR hat, and Limsa gets the FSH hat.

That's what I'm assuming though. I don't know for sure.

Aleport and Golden bazaar are bolth being added on the 10th, their list of achievements were already confirmed by someone. (something about a "dat ass party")

Just a quick note, the max level you can get hamlet up to right now is level 2. When they up that (and I have no idea if that will be in an a/b patch, or in 1.23) they can readjust the point system, or add different items that have more value for turn-in to compensate.

I have a feeling the loot table from the captain (top 20 npc) is functioning as designed, but I fear that the loot table for the chest is incomplete, unintentionally.

Bayohne, i would really appreciate a confirmation of this, as non-top 20 people are starting to not want to do hamlet anymore... I am sure that was not an ideal (or even planned) result.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I have a feeling the loot table from the captain (top 20 npc) is functioning as designed, but I fear that the loot table for the chest is incomplete, unintentionally.

Bayohne, i would really appreciate a confirmation of this, as non-top 20 people are starting to not want to do hamlet anymore... I am sure that was not an ideal (or even planned) result.

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It is fairly depressing. You spend the better part of two days doing your best to stay on the list, and you're rewarded with dark matter... I got more dark matter just from all the fishing I was doing.

You'd think the captain would be more appreciative :P.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

It is fairly depressing. You spend the better part of two days doing your best to stay on the list, and you're rewarded with dark matter... I got more dark matter just from all the fishing I was doing.

You'd think the captain would be more appreciative :P.

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ive had a 30% drop rate from him so far, kinda hard to tell if thats the norm til ive done this multiple days on top

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ive had a 30% drop rate from him so far, kinda hard to tell if thats the norm til ive done this multiple days on top

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Yeah, I'll admit I only got one win, only tried it about 4 times too, so I'm not the best source of information. I'm waiting on Limsa's to pour my energy into.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Yeah, I'll admit I only got one win, only tried it about 4 times too, so I'm not the best source of information. I'm waiting on Limsa's to pour my energy into.

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my group is now 3/16 with drops, so id say its pretty decent

Out of 19 wins last week (hamlet level 2) I got 3 items from the captain. the rest of the party got... nothing.

It's dead already. No shouts, nobody @ hyrstmill.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I have a feeling the loot table from the captain (top 20 npc) is functioning as designed, but I fear that the loot table for the chest is incomplete, unintentionally.

Bayohne, i would really appreciate a confirmation of this, as non-top 20 people are starting to not want to do hamlet anymore... I am sure that was not an ideal (or even planned) result.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

♪ And I was like Bayohne, Bayohne, Bayohne, oooooh, like Bayohne, Bayohne, Bayohne, oooooh ♪

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Okay, the siren's call has been released! <waits anxiously for Bayohne to bite>

So my group finished the night 5/21 on drops

not too bad at all

sounds about right for a top 20 contributor, but we went 0/21 on the chest, im curious how bad the drops from it really are

imho they should be equal. the only bonus for top 20 should be a 2nd chance at the same stuff.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

Hardcore gatherers and crafters can consistently get in the top 20, more casual DoL/DoH can stockpile items for days / weeks and then turn em all in whenever they have enough time to do so to get in the top 20 every once in a while.

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/nod
finally someone claim down and think a little.
you don't have to rush into battle. You can always give all you have at last moment.

But I hate this top-20 system... even hate it more than ifrit/garuada loot system.
should use primal token system.
win 10 battles to exchange one item, it's really not too much to ask...

The core issue is the chests not properly rewarding everyone on a level playfield.

I seriously doubt the fact that doh/dol have a new timesink is a big deal, when dow/dom can also spam chocobo escort for points.

Especially since when Hamlet defense parties are majority DoW/DoM, the event ends more quickly. Faster runs = more runs in the same amount of time, which results in more rewards. That is probably exactly why doh/dol have the top 20 feature, so they are somewhat balanced in attaining rewards.

...Of course this is all assuming the chests get the same proc rate as the Captain presently has ><;

HQ mats and items seems to give way more points. Going to test how much next time round.

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Originally Posted by Picoman

HQ mats and items seems to give way more points. Going to test how much next time round.

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I can already tell you that.

10 NQ DoL Mats = 1,000 points
10 HQ DoL Mats = 10,000 points
1 NQ DoH Item = 1,000 points
1 HQ DoH Item = 10,000 points

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I agree with the op, I was mining for 6hrs today and only got 55k points, that only got me to 15th, and about 2hrs later I was down to 20th, the top on Gungnir at my last check had 400k points now if that was from mining (because I know the numbers for that one) that would be over 40 stacks of kidney ores, in the time from them accepting items to when I handed mine in that must have been someone who was getting items all day (not sure how its possible) or a bot.

Right now this system is enouraging botting with this competition, so we don't have to stay at our screens all day imagine this to a linkshell because I can "hmm I guess I'm going to try and get in the top 20" "lmao the only way you will do that is with a bot running 24/7" "I can't believe that" starts mining for 6hrs and gets 60k points "omg how has the top guy got 400k points" "prolly a bot like I said".

It will need looking into or as said before people will just use it to get anima and not as it is intended, I know the thought behind this, if everyone wants to get in the top 20 we will be getting the higher lvls, but if this involves 12-20hrs of gathering and crafting and people still arent top 20, they will give up and be asking what the point is.

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THIS:

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Originally Posted by Airget

I personally didn't bot, my 4th place value came from lucky HQs synths and gathering a lot of +1 spruce branches, since +1s grant 10x reward. I was hoping to see if 1-3 did anything special but seeing as it doesn't I'll prolly just aim for top 20 while gathering during the week and then turning it all in one big haul before a weekend fight starts since that's when I can do the maximum amount of hamlets.

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Smart people will stockpile mass quantities and focus on HQs over a week or two so as to guarentee a place in the top 5 by turning in an obscene amount of items at once.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I was in the top 20 on Durandal as well, and our LS was regularly pulling off 40k scores out of a theoretical 45k cap at Hamlet Level 2.
Out of 19 of these wins, the chest dropped nothing but dark matter and the occasional ixali currency. For every LS run. the type of chest was random, we saw bronze silver and gold on occasion, but the consistency of the rewards from chests was blatantly lopsided, in that Chest rewards netted at the top available tier was dark matter and a small amout of presently worthless beastmen crrency... but completing Hamlet Defense with under 15k points score rather consistently rewards a "consolation prize": Magicked Prism (Indigo Star).

My wager is that they have a chest loot list in mind for people in the following tiers:

Tier 0 Under 15k-----chance at Indigo star
Tier 1 15k-30k-------?
Tier 2 30k-45k-------?
Tier 3 45k-60k etc etc

The problem is, they may not have anticipated that before May 10th (when Aleport and Gold Bazaar go live), that people would be regularly exceeding tier 1 and tier 2, so the loot list for the chest was coded to give generic Ixali currency and dark matter, and the worthwhile gear would be added in 1.22a .

If I am wrong on this, I will likely not be participating as often, nor I wager, will a large majority of the server populations.

TL;DR -- If the only way to get anything but dark matter from the chests is to perform poorly, where is the motivation for groups to keep going at it, especially if they aren't in the top 20?

Goddess, I hope they fix this soon.

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Duuuuuude, how do you explain the militia gear people have already obtained, then?

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Originally Posted by PeaceWalker

Thanks for the reply. Are you saying that you will not be able to log/mine any item at all? or just get useless items?

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The gathering fatigue is hidden. It is based on a point system. You start off for example at 1000 points. Every item obtained gathering drops your point count by one, by the time you get to 500 points for example, you obtain items with more difficulty. By the time you get to 0 points you wont be able to dig anything up. Over time the points replenish so you have to do an eye opening amount of gathering to ose all your points imo.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I'm willing to give SE the benefit of the doubt for now, there is a good chance the loot system isn't completely fleshed out and working properly.

We can only hope that in the next patch the score will directly reflect the colour of the chest that spawns and that will in turn increase the likely hood of loot dropping.

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Jinko, you and I both know this will never happen for the simple reason that it is logical. Sorry to burst your bubble ; ;

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Out of 19 wins last week (hamlet level 2) I got 3 items from the captain. the rest of the party got... nothing.

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Is there a problem officer...?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

So my group finished the night 5/21 on drops

not too bad at all

sounds about right for a top 20 contributor, but we went 0/21 on the chest, im curious how bad the drops from it really are

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Did the 5/21 come from the officer?

I'm assuming the officer gives out secondary rewards apart from the chest to those who ranked top 20 in supply missions, correct?

This is from (at this point) at least 40 Linkshell completions, both Level 1 and 2. Scores at level 2 were consistently over 40k, those at level 1 over 20k.

Chest Rewards Confirmed:
Magicked Prism (Indigo Star) [only if completion score is less than 10,000-15,000]
Dark Matter Grade 5
Random Ixali Currency (very rare)

Captain rewards confirmed: [exclusive to top 20]
Dark Matter Grade 5
Militia Barbut
Militia Bracelets
Militia Wristlets
Militia Sledgehammer
Militia Mortar
Militia Culinary Knife

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

This is from (at this point) at least 40 Linkshell completions, both Level 1 and 2. Scores at level 2 were consistently over 40k, those at level 1 over 20k.

Chest Rewards Confirmed:
Magicked Prism (Indigo Star) [only if completion score is less than 10,000-15,000]
Dark Matter Grade 5
Random Ixali Currency (very rare)

Captain rewards confirmed: [exclusive to top 20]
Dark Matter Grade 5
Militia Barbut
Militia Bracelets
Militia Wristlets
Militia Sledgehammer
Militia Mortar
Militia Culinary Knife

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Great, so the gear is more or less dependent on being in the Top 20. Thanks Duuuude