Will We Ever Have More Light Party Content?

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Originally Posted by WHS

So were getting one new form a content "Amdapor Township" and 2 rehash of an old dungeon "Braflox & Halatali" ? And a Leviathan fight on 2 difficulty levels. Anything else mentioned yet?

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All you have done here is demonstrate that you have never even tried Haukke Manor HM or Copperbell Mines HM, and thus most people won't take anything else you say seriously. Good going.

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Originally Posted by farnfarn64

Have you played Final Fantasy games? There are few mob designs and most are reskins when you get to different areas.

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No, and apparently if I had, I'd have known what I was getting for my dollar when I subbed to FFXIV ARR in August.

Thanks for clarifying that Felis, guess the devil is in the minute details as far as comparison of 'same' dungeon.
Perhaps I should have used the words, "incredibly similar gameplay" instead of 'exact same dungeon'.

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Originally Posted by Autymnfyres

Thanks for clarifying that Felis, guess the devil is in the minute details as far as comparison of 'same' dungeon.
Perhaps I should have used the words, "incredibly similar gameplay" instead of 'exact same dungeon'.

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Still wrong......try again......

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Originally Posted by Autymnfyres

Thanks for clarifying that Felis, guess the devil is in the minute details as far as comparison of 'same' dungeon.
Perhaps I should have used the words, "incredibly similar gameplay" instead of 'exact same dungeon'.

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Hmm?
You can say this to every dungeon. Kill trash mobs, defeat 2 mid-bosses, don't die on the end-boss
Or what do you mean? Because the mechanics can't be it.

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Originally Posted by Autymnfyres

And to add the proverbial insult to injury is taking EXACT SAME DUNGEONS with little notable variances aside from increasing mob health and dmg and calling it Hard, Harder, Hardest, Extreme, Fantastically Difficult....NEW DUNGEON>Come one, come all and look forward to it: NEW CONTENT.

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Blatantly obvious you haven't played them. Because they are not even remotely similar. The only thing that is the same is using some of the scenery. Otherwise they are completely different dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

Blatantly obvious you haven't played them. Because they are not even remotely similar. The only thing that is the same is using some of the scenery. Otherwise they are completely different dungeons.

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Funny enough, when they make Tam Tara hard it's guaranteed it'll be the part cut off from 1.0/ARR Alpha, same with Toto Rak. Copperbells actually just reincorporated many sections that existed in 1.0 (It used to be an open world dungeon.)

Much like there's a lot in Satasha that was cut off as it incorported parts of Cassopeia Hollows and I think Turnbeard cove or something like that, so iin a sense Autymn isn't far off that it's the exact same dungeons, because they're just readding bits they cut off from their initial design in 2010-2012.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Funny enough, when they make Tam Tara hard it's guaranteed it'll be the part cut off from 1.0/ARR Alpha, same with Toto Rak. Copperbells actually just reincorporated many sections that existed in 1.0 (It used to be an open world dungeon.)

Much like there's a lot in Satasha that was cut off as it incorported parts of Cassopeia Hollows and I think Turnbeard cove or something like that, so iin a sense Autymn isn't far off that it's the exact same dungeons, because they're just readding bits they cut off from their initial design in 2010-2012.

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Grasping at straws :)

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Funny enough, when they make Tam Tara hard it's guaranteed it'll be the part cut off from 1.0/ARR Alpha, same with Toto Rak. Copperbells actually just reincorporated many sections that existed in 1.0 (It used to be an open world dungeon.)

Much like there's a lot in Satasha that was cut off as it incorported parts of Cassopeia Hollows and I think Turnbeard cove or something like that, so iin a sense Autymn isn't far off that it's the exact same dungeons, because they're just readding bits they cut off from their initial design in 2010-2012.

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The monsters in Copperbell Mine 1.0 were not the same like in the ARR version. In 1.0 it was most time Diremites and Ants. You wanted to farm Formic Acid? You went to Copperbell Mine.

Now to the map:
1.0
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...Pitswtrmrk.jpg
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...carywtrmrk.jpg

ARR (normal mode)
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...ines_-_Map.png

Also here I don't see a similarity

And please, Cassiopeia Hollow have nothing to do with Sastasha. Maybe you mean Shposhae

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Originally Posted by Felis

And please, Cassiopeia Hollow have nothing to do with Sastasha.

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It's pretty obviously a mix of Cassopeia Hallows, Sphoshae and Misbeard Cove. It's obviously not 100% identical (like not every map in ARR is to it's original) but it's pretty obvious, but then again, I still go over all of my 1.0 recordings so maybe it's just from seeing my run throughs of these zones I spotted the similarities and obvious asset reusage, maybe you just didn't play 1.0?

It's even stated in-game it was repurposed as a Pirates den lol.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

It's pretty obviously a mix of Cassopeia Hallows, Sphoshae and Misbeard Cove. It's obviously not 100% identical (like not every map in ARR is to it's original) but it's pretty obvious, but then again, I still go over all of my 1.0 recordings so maybe it's just from seeing my run throughs of these zones I spotted the similarities and obvious asset reusage, maybe you just didn't play 1.0?

It's even stated in-game it was repurposed as a Pirates den lol.

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I'm talking about the map design, the mechanics and the enemies, not the environment like stone textures or plants.
Shposhae because the big glowing shells and the Coerl NM, Misbeard Grove maybe because the pirates, but Cassiopeia Hollow? Cassiopeia Hollow was mostly only a big cave. The only interesting in Cassiopeia Hollow were the plants.

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Originally Posted by Autymnfyres

******Just why?****** I do not remember the other mmo's I played ever BLATANTLY copying prior dungeon/raid mobs and particularly not bosses. Like literally not. And if there were some resemblance, it was questionable enough for players to actually debate it.

I do not understand why there are not more people here who dislike this. Quite cheap. Superb designers on the team, yet you rehash so literally as to just dye the mob's armor/exterior a different color and give it a new/different name. *Shakes head. And to add the proverbial insult to injury is taking EXACT SAME DUNGEONS with little notable variances aside from increasing mob health and dmg and calling it Hard, Harder, Hardest, Extreme, Fantastically Difficult....NEW DUNGEON>Come one, come all and look forward to it: NEW CONTENT.

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Seriously? Did you even play the HM dungeons? They are nowhere near the same dungeon. The location is the same, it has a similar theme, that's it. It probably take them half the time to develop a HM dungeon as a new dungeon since they don't have to create all the exterior artwork. I would rather they do that and bring more dungeons to us in quicker time. This is whining just to whine.

Why add more dungeons? So people can roulette pharos sirius 2.0 and then drop as they see its new content.

Also "I do not understand why there are not more people here...." Because you are just wrong. That's how that works.
(ie rants about something doesn't get support, then cries about people not seeing things the way you see them)

That about sums it up.

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Originally Posted by IgnisFatuus

the only exceptions are FF VIII and FF IX which don't feature color swap enemies. since then SE has basically devolved their production quality in this regard.

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I don't remember how things worked in FFIX, but in FFVIII, though they didn't have color swapped enemies, the same enemy appeared in several zones with the only difference being it's level.