Why You Shouldn't Use Fracture

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Originally Posted by Sebastien

I don't follow your math. Fracture costs 80 TP per GCD, not 30.

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You're ignoring the 50 TP regained with every GCD. I specifically said *net* TP loss and the net TP loss for Fracture is 30 (80 -50). You have to look at resource consumption as it compares to resource regeneration. Looking at cost in a vacuum means nothing. It's for this exact same reason that Overpower stops looking as amazing as many people seem to think it is and Flash looks a lot *better*: Overpower has a net loss of 80 TP per GCD whereas Flash provides a net *gain* of 50 TP per GCD. Ignoring TP regeneration is going to skew your results massively.

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(btw does your 300 potency include the 100 potency upfront damage, in addition to the dot? Does it account for the extended duration? I can't find any source to confirm that number.)

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Yes. The initial hit goes for 100 potency while the DoT ticks 10 times (once every 3 seconds) for 20 potency, for a total of 300.

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The ability isn't broken and shouldn't be ignored.

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I'm not saying it's broken. I'm saying it's not useful. The damage that it provides does not make up for the dramatically increased cost. TP cost should not be measured as a deviation from 0 but as a deviation from resource regeneration.

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Originally Posted by Soulburn32

i never said I wasn't using them when they were not off cooldown thanks for making assumptions.

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And I never said that you weren't either. I said that the justification you were using is flawed *because* you're already using those abilities.

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The best use of OGCD is between GCD skills. I simply stated the sweet spot for me was if an OGCD was ready when using RoH as it has the longest animation and you can use OFGD skills to clip that animation.

For instance RoH -> Spirits -> Fracture
IS Faster Than
RoH -> Fracture

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Except that it's not. The animation of Halone still finishes shortly before the refresh rate comes up. The limiting factor on using on-GCD abilities isn't animation: it's the GCD itself. Using off-GCD abilities doesn't magically shorten the GCD.

Your sweet spot exists solely within your mind. In reality, it doesn't exist and, in fact, comes with the explicit DPS loss due to increased resource consumption that I referred you to before.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

You're ignoring the 50 TP regained with every GCD.

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Just a quick correction, I'm pretty sure you regain 60 TP per GCD while in combat. Still doesn't invalidate your point though.

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Originally Posted by CurlyBruce

Just a quick correction, I'm pretty sure you regain 60 TP per GCD while in combat. Still doesn't invalidate your point though.

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It's 60 TP every 3 seconds (the same server time that DoT damage is applied). Since the GCD is 2.5 seconds, the TP gained per GCD is 50 (60 * 3 * 2.5.

Alright fine it may not technically be faster using a mouse and kb setup and smashing the crap out of the button until the skill can be executed.

But using a gamepad the skills flow alot better when using OGCD skills between GCD skills and RoH is the worst for animation time leaving you with a small gap to get the next skill in without button mashing.

So there, that is why I would rather clip RoH instead of say Fastblade even if I happen to have an OGCD skill ready.

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Originally Posted by Soulburn32

Alright fine it may not technically be faster using a mouse and kb setup and smashing the crap out of the button until the skill can be executed.

But using a gamepad the skills flow alot better when using OGCD skills between GCD skills and RoH is the worst for animation time leaving you with a small gap to get the next skill in without button mashing.

So there, that is why I would rather clip RoH instead of say Fastblade even if I happen to have an OGCD skill ready.

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Look, you're 100% wrong, just accept it and move on.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

You're ignoring the 50 TP regained with every GCD. I specifically said *net* TP loss and the net TP loss for Fracture is 30 (80 -50). You have to look at resource consumption as it compares to resource regeneration. Looking at cost in a vacuum means nothing.

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That is kind of bizarre logic, and it does not tell you the damage per TP or damage per GCD. However, if you apply your logic consistently, the conclusion is still identical. Fracture deals significantly more damage per TP and significantly more damage per GCD than your main threat rotation does. It is absolutely a DPS increase to use it. However, it is a TPS (threat per second) loss. Therefore - use it when you can afford to, threatwise, and don't use it otherwise. It's exactly the same logic as shield swipe for PLD.

To bad warrior has a wasted trait in fracture (imo). I would much rather have all the class traits increase abilities that are used all the time, and not so much on situation abilities.

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Originally Posted by Sebastien

That is kind of bizarre logic, and it does not tell you the damage per TP or damage per GCD. However, if you apply your logic consistently, the conclusion is still identical. Fracture deals significantly more damage per TP and significantly more damage per GCD than your main threat rotation does. It is absolutely a DPS increase to use it. However, it is a TPS (threat per second) loss. Therefore - use it when you can afford to, threatwise, and don't use it otherwise. It's exactly the same logic as shield swipe for PLD.

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Sebastien has the right of it.Fracture is a dps increase but tps decrease. Should only be used when hate is not an issue (for example, medium length encounters, encounters with low aoe healing, etc). Great time for fracture is heart and post heart titan (as you'll have a massive lead by then over your healers and aoe damage actually slows down cus stomps are lessf requent). Even earlier in the fight is doable, as you'll regen tp during jumps and the like anyway.

Fights like turn 1 and 2, you have to move often enough, and the fights are short enough, that tp isn't a limiting factor (have to dodge lights is what I'm refering to in turn 1).

Turn 4, again you've got a lot of movement, and basically every wave is a dps check, so pretty solid reason to use fracture.

note: I'm a paladin, but the logic is the same for both classes. That said, never use fracture if you cannot ensure you will maintain threat.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

It's 60 TP every 3 seconds (the same server time that DoT damage is applied). Since the GCD is 2.5 seconds, the TP gained per GCD is 50 (60 * 3 * 2.5.

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Ah, okay I had a feeling that's what you were going with but just wanted to make sure.

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Originally Posted by Sebastien

That is kind of bizarre logic, and it does not tell you the damage per TP or damage per GCD.

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It's only bizarre logic if you don't understand resource management and are ignorant of anything more than the most simplistic models and constructs. Going off of base cost while ignoring how much you regain while using it is going to give you a horribly flawed picture. Damage per TP isn't an important value; you want to look at net loss of TP per potency (which is what I've been going off of). The more something costs compared to your resource generation, the higher the opportunity cost for using it is. Overpower isn't expensive because it costs about twice as much as your single target abilities; it's expensive because it costs more than *5 times* as much in practical terms.

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Fracture deals significantly more damage per TP and significantly more damage per GCD than your main threat rotation does.

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The first part of this is what keeps going over your head. Base cost means nothing without context. If base resource generation was 100, none of this discussion about cost would matter regardless of what damage per TP was. Damage per TP means *nothing* because Damage per TP lost per GCD is what's actually important. The second isn't actually all that true. It's true *somewhat*, but Fracture's contributions are negligible: it might deal ~80 more potency on the surface (you're almost never going to get all 10 ticks because the ticks are based off of server time, which means that, unless you hit it at *exactly* the server tick, you've got dead time on both sides) but that potency, distributed across the 13+ GCDs it would be applied over and accounting for the 2150 potency dealt over that time frame, the "benefits" of Fracture amount to a whopping 3.7% of total DPS. Factor in the buffs and everything else that Fracture doesn't benefit from or interferes with and it gets lower.

Fracture isn't worth it if you plan on fighting for longer than 2-3 minutes or less than 45-50 seconds, and even when you *do* use it, the contributions are small enough that you won't notice. The statement that it increases your DPS is semantically true and that's about it. In reality, you won't see real, practical increases to your damage *even when you use Fracture at the optimal time*. That's the entire point of this. Fracture has no real practical use for PLD *or* WAR: it costs a crapton more, decreasing your damage dealing capability over the long term, and adds so little damage that you won't even notice it.

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Originally Posted by PessimiStick

Look, you're 100% wrong, just accept it and move on.

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Maybe so, but the game does play differently on a game pad compare to mouse and kb. Clipping RoH does flow better than clipping other skills.

While the math may not hold it up 100% if a computer bot did everything, sometimes gameplay flow is more important than doing everything 100% correct.

On the original topic, yes fracture does appear to be worthless.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

Such snip
Wow
So wall
(doge)
"..adds so little damage that you won't even notice it."

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This is silly. With that logic its almost like saying "Oh, this gear upgrade is only 1 str 1 it and 1 def/mdef. Its so miniscule i shouldnt upgrade at all cause i wont see the benefits." All in all, if you -can- increase anything viably.. Do it. Even if it's a small amount. In this case, if threat isn't an issue, use Fracture. If you're getting low on TP, halt its use. Don't just not use it because you think you'll run out too fast. Maximizing dps whenever you can is the best thing you can do, even if its "so little that you wont notice it".

P.S. No one is saying you are wrong. We're just suggesting different methods of play. There is no need to get hostile with people debating as it brings a greater knowledge to all and informs those who are too shy to ask these question.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

Correct me if I'm wrong fracture is even worse than in your proposed case because the damage over time cannot crit, so it's even less damage per TP.

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Wait, I think DOT can crit? that's how the BRD's DOT + bloodletter cooldown works no?

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Originally Posted by Kitru

Fracture isn't worth it if you plan on fighting for longer than 2-3 minutes or less than 45-50 seconds

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So pretty much every single target encounter currently in the game except Titan?

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Originally Posted by Kitru

It's higher damage, but it's higher damage in a purely semantic context that's really so little that you can ignore it.

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As long as everyone understands that your argument against Fracture is effectively just laziness.

In an infinite TP situation where you have a threat lead, Fracture is worth using every 30 seconds. In a semi-limited TP situation, it's worth using every time Berserk is up so you only get boosted Fracture. In a very limited TP situation, it's not worth using.

There's no absolutes for those. ANY fight which you finish with more than 20 TP remaining is a fight where you could have potentially slipped in an extra fracture. Some fights have pauses for TP regeneration, some fights take longer with different group setups.

It's 100% fine to say that over long TP-starved fights, Fracture is a DPS loss due to TP starvation. But it's lazy and irresponsible to tell people to never use it, because in situations where TP isnt an issue, Fracture is the highest damage single target move a warrior has.

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Originally Posted by SofiyaGlaston

This is silly. With that logic its almost like saying "Oh, this gear upgrade is only 1 str 1 it and 1 def/mdef. Its so miniscule i shouldnt upgrade at all cause i wont see the benefits." All in all, if you -can- increase anything viably.. Do it. Even if it's a small amount. In this case, if threat isn't an issue, use Fracture. If you're getting low on TP, halt its use. Don't just not use it because you think you'll run out too fast. Maximizing dps whenever you can is the best thing you can do, even if its "so little that you wont notice it".

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First off, nice strawman. There is a *significant* difference between an explicit stat increase and a less than half percent increase in damage due to using a specific skill that ends up costing you more over time. The difference between your gear argument and my Fracture argument is that those are an explicit improvement in performance; Fracture is a purely semantic improvement: it's true, but not true in any practical sense because of the size of it.

If you use Fracture during a fight and, at any point during that fight bottom out your TP, Fracture ended up being a net TP loss, regardless of when or how you use it. The lost GCD is going to cost more than the marginal increase in damage that Fracture provided over the normal combos.

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P.S. No one is saying you are wrong. We're just suggesting different methods of play. There is no need to get hostile with people debating as it brings a greater knowledge to all and informs those who are too shy to ask these question.

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The only people I'm getting hostile with are the ones that have no idea what they're talking about and are trying to claim that my math is wrong (i.e. the guy that thought that looking at TP loss/GCD made no sense when base TP cost is actually what's nonsensical if you're not an idiot). For everyone else, it's exasperation because the entire *point* I've been making is that, while Fracture, as a question of damage generated in a single GCD, is a good ability, over the long term, where TP cost actually matters, it is a DPS *loss* of a pretty substantial amount. Speaking about using Fracture because small improvements are still improvements is ignoring exactly how little Fracture actually improves your DPS. It's a small enough increase that vacillations in performance based on lag, RNG, and how distracted you are at the time have a greater impact and, in my experience, if any of those factors account for more than what is being talked about, you can ignore it completely because those factors are always present. It's like saying that you can make a bullet hit harder by running at your target before you shoot: sure, it's *true* from a purely semantic standpoint but, from a practical standpoint, there is no difference whatsoever and you're just doing it to do it rather than because it actually makes you perform better.

Telling people to use Fracture will not increase their DPS. In most cases, it will actually cause them to deal less damage over the long haul. Talking about using Fracture when you have all of these specific circumstances, some of which require you to have specific foreknowledge of the fight several minutes past, is like planning on setting a long jump record at the moment of a solar eclipse so that you'll get a boost from the combined gravity wells of the moon and sun acting upon you additively rather than existing in conflict. It's like arguing that calculators need to have pi stored to more than just the first 9 digits. You're going to get the same performance, in practical terms, either way, and you'll get the same real performance whether you opt to use Fracture perfectly or ignore it altogether; you'll get *worse* performance if you use Fracture without the perfect case being true.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

So pretty much every single target encounter currently in the game except Titan?

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Actually, you still wouldn't want to do it on Titan because his transfer phases aren't long enough to reset your TP back to full from where they were burned. Fracture on him is still an explicit DPS loss. The only fight that I know of that actually fulfills the "it's fine to use Fracture" conditions is Ifrit, because his charges are common enough and long enough to reset TP back to full every time.

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As long as everyone understands that your argument against Fracture is effectively just laziness.

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How hard is it to understand "less than half of a percent"? It's not a question of laziness but whether there's even a point to using it. From a mathematical standpoint, there isn't because the difference in performance is so small. It's the value that gets cut off when you measure with significant figures. The value that Fracture adds is less than that. It gets eaten by the math so that there's no difference.

The argument against Fracture is cost:benefit. The benefit is effectively 0. The cost is a nearly 10% increase in TP consumption over time. It's not laziness to say that you should stop using the ability that gives you no real benefit while costing you more.

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Originally Posted by Sapphidia

It's 100% fine to say that over long TP-starved fights, Fracture is a DPS loss due to TP starvation. But it's lazy and irresponsible to tell people to never use it, because in situations where TP isnt an issue, Fracture is the highest damage single target move a warrior has.

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You're ignoring the fact that there aren't really many fights where you can say that TP isn't an issue.A "long TP-starved fight" is any fight that lasts longer than 2.5 minutes, just by looking at the baseline consumption a WAR manages. If the boss isn't going to be dead in less time than it takes for Berserk to recharge a second time (or Unchained if you opt into using that at the start), you shouldn't be using Fracture at all and every boss that you face end game is going to last that long or longer.

The problem with what so many people are saying is that they're using qualified definitions rather than quantified ones. "Long TP-starved fight" sounds like a lot longer than 150 seconds, but it's not really. Unless you opt into standing around and not doing anything, you *will* end up running out of TP on any fight worth mentioning, so it's not really a question of it being a "long TP-starved fight" but rather a "fight" in general.

Stating that Fracture should not be used in the absolute case is like stating that Shield Swipe should not be used in the absolute case. Sure, Shield Swipe does end up being a slight DPS increase when you use it (it's dirt cheap for the damage that it deals and it deals slightly more than the average damage that the Halone combo does), but you'll find a lot of PLDs that will tell you that there's not really a point to using it and tell you not to use it in the absolute case: it just doesn't provide enough of a benefit to justify itself. Whatever gains you might experience by using it are so marginal that there's no practical difference between using it and not using it. The same is true for Fracture.

It's not a question of laziness or simplicity but whether there's even a point.

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

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Originally Posted by SofiyaGlaston

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

(In before the obligatory "LERN2MATH!" response...) :cool:

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Not sure what you're implying..

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Nothing to worry about, honest.

[*Munches Popcorn*] :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Kitru

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Originally Posted by SofiyaGlaston

There is no need to get hostile with people debating as it brings a greater knowledge to all and informs those who are too shy to ask these question.

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The only people I'm getting hostile with are the ones that have no idea what they're talking about and are trying to claim that my math is wrong

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"Dammit, out already??" :eek: :mad:

[*Opens Second Bag*]
[*MunchMunch*] :)

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

"Dammit, out already??" :eek: :mad:

[*Opens Second Bag*]
[*MunchMunch*] :)

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I've got some cookies, wanna try some?

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Originally Posted by Wyndam

I've got some cookies, wanna try some?

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Cookie math is the best kind of math... :D

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Originally Posted by Kitru

Stuff

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Apologies, it seems I was unclear. I was saying that you can effectively use Fracture in pretty much every ST encounter currently in the game except for Titan. It's hardly as situational you make it out to be.

Also, I don't really see anyone seriously questioning your math but better is better is better my friend there's no two ways about it. If you are in a fight where you won't bottom out TP then there's no reason not to use Fracture... at all. Period. Any other argument to the contrary is born out of laziness.

Lastly, you should probably correct the blanket statement in OP that no class should use Fracture since it's unequivocally false.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Apologies, it seems I was unclear. I was saying that you can effectively use Fracture in pretty much every ST encounter currently in the game except for Titan. It's hardly as situational you make it out to be.

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Or Garuda. Or probably anything in Coil. Or the final boss of AK if your DPS isn't high enough. Or DW if it lasts to a third repel. Or the first boss in AK. . .

You know Kitru's math failures would be sweet if she actually realised a tanks job is to hold aggro not to blow through their TP pool which could lead to potential loss of aggro.

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Originally Posted by Grembo

i r smert

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Better than a failure that doesn't even know what Kitru's arguement is.

They're saying it's a TP loss in a long fight and 'blowing through' TP would be along the lines of spamming Overpower not doing your standard rotation (which if there is no pause you will eventually run out of TP becuase of the cost of the SE chain).

TP loss = DPS loss = Enimty loss

If you were seriously going for threat per TP fracture would be near the bottom of your list, do you even realize that?

So you're thinking bassackwards, USING fracture drains your TP faster than not including it.

IDK what everyone is talking about when they bring up 'down time' Turns 1-4 I have not encountered a single period of legitimate 'down time' in a fight. (Meaning so long as I don't fuck up there is always something to hit without pause.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

IDK what everyone is talking about when they bring up 'down time' Turns 1-4 I have not encountered a single period of legitimate 'down time' in a fight.

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Well put. Though I do disagree with not using fracture per the TP per enmity rule of thumb. Is it the most efficient? No. But it negates factors of lag and running from AOE while consistently contributing to the enmity pool. Using it or leaving it out won't break your tank, save your TP/raid, or rate an entire thread-turned-flamewar over it but it does require another factor for you to balance on top of your rotations, boss mechanics, healer requirements, and raid positioning for the sake of squeezing out every last fraction of a percent of DPS/enmity.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

I would be surprised to learn that DoTs are either incapable of critting or don't have some form of crit benefit factored into their damage. You would essentially be turning crit into a worthless stat for the classes that have DoTs make up a substantial portion of their total damage (BRD and SMN spring to mind).

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Dot's can Crit as BRD's Windbite and Venombite have a 50% chance to reduce Bloodletters recast to 0 when the DoT crits, and from my experience on BRD any Crit rate Buffs seem to extend for the entire duration of the debuff even after Internal Release and Straight Shots effect have worn.

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

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Cookie math is the best kind of math... :D

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One cannot argue with that logic, after all "C is for Cookie that's good enough for me... HEY!"

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Let's leave it at that. Some believe it's useful, some believe it isn't.

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Originally Posted by SofiyaGlaston

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Let's leave it at that. Some believe it's useful, some believe it isn't.

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Belief has nothing to do with it, these are cold hard facts.

Fracture is worth using if you can regain the TP expended before the next start of combat. It's worth is a very small and insignificant DPS increase on a class that already does low DPS. On any content that is relatively challenging, it will likely rarely/never be worth using (most challenging content involves longer fights).

You can even apply "challenging" to fresh 50's doing AK, fights will last longer, making Fracture a net loss of damage and enmity if used.

The cold hard facts are that Fracture does more damage and costs more TP. Between a randomly given fight its more efficient (even if its only slight) to use fracture. Dead boss 2-3 seconds faster > dead boss 2-3 seconds later. A boss with jump mechanics (disappearing for an attack) its even better to fracture because you have TP cool time. And to those that repeatedly want to bring up "Oh noes... my TP ran out" here's a tip.. if your TP gets low exclude fracture until you can regen more. Until then, bleed 'em up.

^This is all assuming you aren't having enmity problems.

Situational.

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Originally Posted by SofiyaGlaston

And to those that repeatedly want to bring up "Oh noes... my TP ran out" here's a tip.. if your TP gets low exclude fracture until you can regen more. Until then, bleed 'em up.

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Except that you're still experiencing net TP loss *without* using Fracture. Fracture does not cause you to lose TP. It causes you to lose TP *faster*. As soon as you start having to leave open GCDs where you could have been attacking with them in order to recover TP, Fracture becomes a TP loss and the only way to *regain* TP is to stop attacking because all of your attacks cost more TP than you recover over a given duration. As such, it's not a question of "eh, just stop using Fracture when you get low"; if you ever *do* get low, any time you used Fracture before was a net loss to your DPS. Since any fight worth mentioning will have you get low, you will never find it beneficial to use Fracture in non-trivial content.

What you're forgetting when you say "Fracture does more damage and costs more TP" is that it's not at the same ratio. When you include the 83.33 potency that you get for free, Fracture account for a ~25% increase in damage dealt over a single GCD while increasing TP cost for that GCD by 100%. Fracture is *not* a cost-effective measure at *any* point in time. It gets even worse when you realize that 60-80 additional potency you're getting out of Fracture (as I said before, you can never really guarantee you'll get all of the ticks because the ticks are based off of a given server time, not off of the time that the DoT is applied; more often than not, you'll lose one tick because of this) ends up providing you only 5-6 additional potency per GCD when averaged over time. When you're pulling nearly 300, that 5-6% means next to nothing. It's the difference between using Brutal Swing on CD and only using it when you need to stun.

You can argue that Fracture does more damage and costs more TP so you should use it to increase your DPS all you want, but, until you realize that you need to actually quantify the improvement to provide more than just an ignorant statement to the conversation, you're going to be wrong.

I use it on the demon wall right before I get repelled. Not a single other situation where I haven't felt the normal rotation wasn't more appropriate.

I'm starting to become convinced that anyone with over 150 posts on these Forums are not clearing endgame content and therefore are speaking about irrelevant information. Starting to call them Forum Raiders instead of Game Raiders. The bosses are out there man, Out there!

Of course with 2pc AF2 + full DL, Fracture is useless in AK and Primals. Otherwise, Fracture is extremely relevant in BC Encounters. I use it on my Caduceus, on all ADS mini's and ADS, and in Turn 4 Dreads and Soldiers within my raid's strategy. All have times to regain TP and I never come close to bottoming out on TP thanks to bard.

Your bard is using Paeon too early/often if it's keeping you from going OOM on anything that isn't AE spam. Tanks have the highest TP drain since they don't get invigorate. If you aren't running out, the group would do more damage by having your bard use it less, since no one else needs it at that point.

Anytime you are DPSing as a war, and NOT main tanking... (cad before split, turn 4 during downtime if PLD is on dreads, turn 2 very often, etc).

Then fracture is invaluable, it allows you to put up high damage without the risk of stealing threat. If you are spamming BB combo you can take threat.

Granted, this is another rare occasion.

The OP includes auto-attack damage in the damage per TP usage and assumes that auto attacks don't happen on an "empty" GCD.

Is fracture worth using?

BB combo- 630 potency over 3 GCD, or average of 210 per GCD; Fracture- 300 potency for full run; 220 potency at 18 seconds

Fracture is more damage to targets living more than 18 seconds.

BB combo (70 + 60 + 60) = 190 over 3 GCD, 63.34 TP average; Fracture is 80 TP.
210/63.34 = 3.315 damage per TP for BB combo; 300/80 = 3.75 damage per TP, x/80 > 3.315 --- 3.315 * 80 = ~265

Fracture is more efficient on targets that will live an additional 27 seconds.

This is not difficult.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

When you include the 83.33 potency that you get for free, Fracture account for a ~25% increase in damage dealt over a single GCD while increasing TP cost for that GCD by 100%.

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There is absolutely no reason to include auto attack damage when determining whether or not to use Fracture.

Any argument is pretty much irrelevant when OP is basically saying:

Fracture does more damage but don't use it anyway because derp.