So curious...you don't like special benefits to only certain people, right? So how do you feel about tanks getting mounts? Or the CNJ getting the unicorn? Or raiders getting access to raid gear/minions everyone else won't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
Honest question, not sarcasm. You seem to have a specific axe to grind when it comes to PvP.
Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions
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02-17-2018, 04:58 PMDreadRabbit
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02-17-2018, 05:04 PMDualblade
I mean yeah its a thread for unpopular opinions but even these seem really going for the PvP juggular. And thats from someone who is doesn't care much for any PvP in MMOs.
As for another of my own, while I do agree making cutscenes always mandatory for Castrum and Prae is a band-aid at best, I hate hate HATE that it seems most vets going in there will complain about it the whole damn way. If you hate it that much DON'T GO IN, thats the best way to make SE change their mind. -
02-17-2018, 05:08 PMItswhateverthough
You misunderstand the meaning of exclusive. Anyone CAN get those items any time. If you don't choose to, that's just on you. The chance doesn't ever go away though.
I hate the PvP community and its content design. I don't think it belongs in this game. That much is true, but it's only partly related.
Ranked Feast is the only game mode to have items that can't be obtained once the season is over, and it's limited supply at that. Other exclusives do exist such as pre-order bonuses, item codes, Legacy rewards, etc. Holidays used to, but that was taken away. Free company only housing used to exist, also taken away. Same with region locked items often introduced due to some areas not having full access to the game due to politics. Guess what? You already know.
My stance on exclusivity is don't pander and diversify exclusive items to broader audiences, meaning other areas of the game. Don't play favorites. Go all in, or don't have any at all.
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02-17-2018, 05:23 PMShurrikhanIn such situations, I'd agree completely. But consider: by the time you have a fight chaotic enough that carrying it can be fun due to all the added decisions others have left at your feet, chances are the rest aren't having fun unless they're just in it for shits and giggles. It depends on poor play, and while players who would contribute to that are no small population, you'd necessarily be niching "spontaneous" play to groups of relatively poor players -- or really just the few less poor players within the group. That's not something that can last long. It's not something with a solid goal. It naturally grows out of itself like an old skin rather than growing into a more desirable maturity. Its excitement can only lessen with improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurawrzz
And even then, those won't feel like separate events for many a good healer, especially if they're used to dealing with pugs. Like someone scanning their mirrors frequently when driving, the "decision" is but a glimpse before the act itself; the rest was already mathed out based on the trends in play.
Compare that to perfecting a fight for damage. It has a clear goal. It requires increasingly fine knowledge and coordination. It necessitates greater interaction with the fight. Its excitement generally heightens as you improve.
I'm not saying that chaos isn't fun there, nor that there aren't ways to generate fun from chaos that would likely last longer without standing in negatively felt contradiction with means of improvement, but generally, I do see the commonly called "obsession with rotations" (though a bit of a misnomer) as a longer lasting and better aimed overlying mode of entertainment.
My all-time favorite fights were (basically; other 2 healers were d/cing or getting themselves killed) solo-healing World of Darkness (WHM) upon release and solo-healing Titan Ex on a minimum ilvl run (SCH), but that was an incredibly transient experience in the long run compared to "try-harding" any given piece of current (i.e. Savage) or bonus content, which is why I ended up getting not just a few memorable runs (as with healing) in Savage Second Coil, but tens of them across my time playing tank or dps.
Again, I really would like to see more manipulable chaos that one can adjust to but never fully prepare for. I doubt such is easy to design, but I wholly believe it is at least possible. But it needs to last as such, not just be true of the first week, for it to amount to nearly the same entertainment in total as a fight that one can perfect. I look forward to some sort of balance between the two, but I would hate to see anything stripped away from our ability to perfect our "rotations" and such just to feed an experience that will necessarily kill itself within a short time.
I wish skill use could be less routine, more adaptive, more instinctive, but do not want to be obligated towards poor play or to carrying in order to see that effect on gameplay. It needs to a design philosophy meant for the long hall. If you have any ideas on how to make that happen, I'd love to hear them. I'm literally salivating a little over the possibilities. -
02-17-2018, 05:28 PMNephthysVasudanMy last run in rabanste? I ver-raised 2 dozen times.....roughly.Quote:
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02-17-2018, 06:05 PMDreadRabbitI mean I get your sentiment, but the PvP gear isn't exclusive to PvP. Everyone can join PvP, and if you don't choose to, that's on you. You can wear the gear outside of PvP. I don't see how that's any different than forcing people to raid if they want a specific gear piece or minion, or forcing people to tank if they want one of the tank mounts. Replace every use of "PvP" and "PvPers" with "raiding" and "raiders" and you suddenly have every unfair accusation raiders have been getting for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
I guess to stay on topic an add my own unpopular opinion: I don't care about butt sliders. Would I like more booty? Sure. But if I had to pick cosmetic features to work on the butt slider is the last of my priorities. -
02-17-2018, 06:10 PMViolyre
So here's my unpopular opinion...
Guide videos are useless. I can't understand them. More power to the people who can, but I learn better running in blind so that I can see the effects of attacks in person and strategize from there. -
02-17-2018, 06:19 PMSeryne
I hate Viera and I hope they're never added to the game. We don't really need another human + animal parts race. Hell, we don't need any new races at all.
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02-17-2018, 06:22 PMNephthysVasudanTo add to that...they spoil the whole idea of learning new things. I especially get very salty when someone is told to watch a video before they even start a boss fight in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violyre
I don't mind coaching a sprout text/verbally before they see a boss fight...but I'm not going to spoil the fight in terms of visual/lore/other.
"So at some point you'll get a ghost chasing you down....you can dodge it..but if you let it touch you....you'll go 1vs1 on it..just wail on it and you'l lbe fine..and you'll need to hit the aether pool to come back"
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02-17-2018, 06:27 PMAlleoYes you are right and I do like the Azim steppe because it makes sense here but not every single zone has to be like that. (So yes I agree with you)Quote:
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Honestly I might just be disappointed since the benchmark showed such a great ruby sea with lots of animals..I kinda hoped that it would be more like that. -
02-17-2018, 06:59 PMShurrikhanOr more simply: if the net change from a given improvement is worthwhile, improve it?Quote:
Originally Posted by XovanPrince
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02-17-2018, 07:08 PMkikix12She does not mean PvP rewards, as in the stuff you get for the tokens. She means ranking rewards gotten at the end of Feast for those that have the most points. Those are exclusive. You cannot get them once the season ends. And only X people can get them, depending on the reward. Very few X people. Look here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadRabbit
The trophy is pretty obvious. I mean, you shouldn't get a trophy if you're not the best, right?! I personally have no issue with an exclusive TROPHY for being the best. Maybe some sort of medal as an accessory for those lower on the rankings and/or for meeting the specific rank (I mean gold, diamond and what not). But when rewards include MINIONS and MOUNTS, both of which are collectables in this game, and glamour, which is the most popular "end-game" stuff to do for many casual players, really, it stops being fine with me and apparently Itswhateverthough.
Telling collectors that they never can fill their collection is bad. Honestly, even though I have no means of getting the "top tier" collectables in most games anyway, I quit multiple games over them being altogether exclusive, cause those games offered little other incentive. And its one thing not being able to fill the collection due to being too bad a player or not spending enough time/effort, another thing entirely if the rewards are just plain impossible to get.
This is why I despise all sorts of pre-order bonuses in games. I'd be fine if they game stuff like double experience/double money and such. Stuff I can grind for anyway, while never getting the bonus itself. I'm fine with physical items. In the end, those can be bought from others on live market one way or another. But items otherwise unavailable and irreplaceable are just irritating. And some games go even further by offering different pre-order bonuses based on where you bought the game... -
02-17-2018, 07:26 PMViolyreYeah, I mean easy things like "after we kill the smokestack, you need to get a ghost" is the kind of stuff I can take. Coming at me like "When Phantom Train takes flight, you need to jump up into the wheel, defeat Kefka without using your weapon, and go back in time and defeat Bahamut using the first weapon you got in the game that may not be the one you're on now on this one pixel segment that's randomized each time and doesn't show and then get a ghost" is the stuff I hear when I watch videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan
I don't tolerate unneccessary info well.
Obviously that's fake, but I'm terrified of going into content that actually isn't that hard because "OMFG WHY DIDN'T YOU WATCH THE VIDEO EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS IN FIVE DIFFERENT VIDEOS KILL YOURSELF" followed by a kick. -
02-17-2018, 07:39 PMNephthysVasudanI will state I don't mind saying "Watch a video" for extreme versions of the fight - as its a given you pretty much know whats coming.Quote:
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02-17-2018, 08:18 PMAriaFairchildhttps://i.imgflip.com/2/oqii0.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
Yeah, we have a term for people like that, highlighted below:Quote:
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Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
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02-17-2018, 08:25 PMViolyreI can understand that. I just can't understand video guides if they say much more than "this ability looks like this, you need to do this." It's just the overcomplication, and a lot of videos don't talk about the ability I need to watch for when it's actually on screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan
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02-17-2018, 08:47 PMSicariusSeven
I feel like crafting is very unrewarding and tedious in this game compared to other MMOs. Meanwhile my one friend has every crafting job at max like a crazy person!
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02-17-2018, 09:28 PMAmetrine
Ysayle was a garbage character.
I was always bothered by her not-redemption where we just seem to ignore the entire part about dropping a angry dragon army on the poorest parts of Ishgard, never once considering the fact that she's dropping an angry dragon army on poor people until she witnesses one casually roast a little girl alive.
And then the story decides being her bud is the way to go, with her never facing justice beyond the shock to her system that, hey, Ysayle, you know you murdered a whole bunch of people for your personal power fantasy that was totally a lie.
And then she dies and everyone in the story talks of her like she was an amazing hero when I felt like it was a huge cop-out that she was written away with a noble sacrifice.
She never felt redeemed to me at all. As soon as she starts to figure out the truth, instead of fixing the mess, she suicides herself in spectacular fashion and I, the audience, doesn't feel a thing for it beyond further frustration.
Fordola and Yotsuyu, on the presentation front, are far better characters because the writers are actually doing some real exploration. If anything, it feels like every decision that bothered me about Ysayle's character arc is being fixed with these two in different ways. I'm actually concerned, curious, and endeared enough to want to see what happens to them both. Something I never got with Ysayle.
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02-17-2018, 11:59 PMBourne_EndeavorI suspect she meant the exclusive prices only awarded to top x amount of players. For example, Hell Hounds. If you weren't top 100 in Feast rankings, you simply can never obtain those mounts ever again. At least not currently. It's a similar argument made back when people kept requesting Lightning's hair be made available on the Mogstation. You had a contingent of players who insisted that wouldn't be fair because it "ruins the uniqueness."Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadRabbit
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02-18-2018, 12:44 AMRiyahArpGod it sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicariusSeven
I'm getting mine to 70 to make tools for my gathering jobs. Every single piece is gated by snailfish oil, which only ALC can make, and which itself relies on yellow scrip purchased items, driving the price up of those components to 350-450k on lamia. I think you need about 6 of them for the oil to make one piece, so that's 1200 yellow scrips. You can get that much once per week due to the requests, but then its on average 40-50 yellow scrips a turn in after, so its a harsh grind.
Just so much repetiiveness and time spent both gathering and crafting. And it tends to drive up prices of many goods, making the economy really stagnant, especially for lower level gear. And, of course, RNG. -
02-18-2018, 01:07 AMThirdChild_ZKIReally? Please tell me how I should be hated for simply liking something that I actually gave a chance and discovered was (WAS) actually rather enjoyable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
Tell me how I should be hated when I try to hold SE to a reasonable standard and they not only fail to meet it, they turn around and ask for feedback then ignore it?
Tell me how I should be hated for writing guides, teaching other players, offering advice, and even giving field commands that have directly influenced wins?
Tell me how I should be hated when I show no hate or bias toward PvE content and gladly go out of my way to help others, yet the moment I even mention PvP, I can practically hear the switch turn off in their head?
I'm rather known to be a passionate person, especially when it comes to PvP, and I won't hide that. Whatever personal hate or bias you have, that's on you, and I'm not even going to try to change that. I will however, gladly stand against you if you even think to use said hate or bias to propagate mistruths about it, especially when even a child can see just how skewed and unfair PvP and the people that enjoy it are treated in this game, by both SE and the community.
So I challenge your statement: Tell me what reason there is for PvPers to feel hated in this community. "Unpopular opinions" need not apply. You better bring some facts. -
02-18-2018, 02:28 AMBourne_EndeavorCan you really blame them? Even raiders haven't felt the nerf bat towards their preferred content more than PvPers. At least the former now has Ultimate. PvP was completely gutted and a small subset of complaints led to chat getting banned yet feedback on job balance, game modes, rank decry and plenty more go by without mention. I get the crux of your post seems to revolve around item exclusivity but you're going about it in a horribly antagonistic way that will only garner detractors. And rightly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itswhateverthough
Just settle on, "I think everything should be available to everyone in some manner. No limited time exclusives" and be done with it. -
02-18-2018, 02:40 AMRiyahArp
The gutted stuff is bull, PvP back in 3.0 was a big pain in the butt for most players, since the PvE kit was so unsuited to anything but stationary, huge HP bosses it wasn't funny. You ignored most of the PvE kit and worked together a weird, semi-gimped PvP kit out of the remains. That PvP was mostly about CC and burst if not one-shotting through timed use of Limit breaks, and over 3.0 they kept nerfing those actions because they legitimately were not fun.
People are complaining not because it was legitimately better, but because of nostalgia goggles. Might as well complain about how not needing to aply 2-3 Dots for every class was removed in HW, or how BLM is arguably worse since they aren't on 3.0's original strict enochian timer. -
02-18-2018, 02:49 AMMilanFrozen
I don't know how much of this will actually be unpopular opinion, but I more so don't post the opinion because I don't think anyone agrees.
I don't like Healers and Tanks having dps encouraged in their tool set instead of making a better tool-set and encounter mechanics to encourage doing their associated job constantly.
There are few characters in the story that I like and even less I can stand.
The story makes me cringe a lot more than I enjoy it and I, more often than not, have to pretend the main character is my sibling's character just to get through them since we play twins.
The music is literally the best part of the game to me and I find myself disengaged whenever I don't like it.
I hate the baseline mechanical structure to the game mechanics (Teleporting to the ground when using Aetherial manipulation).
I hate how formulaic the game is. (2 'New' dungeons when updating and all encounters are in an arena) -
02-18-2018, 03:32 AMRaim
Not sure if its unpopular but I think Ultimate encounters are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
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02-18-2018, 03:47 AMGeminaOh, that's definitely not me. Many of my opinions on here would be disliked if there was a dislike button. I've always been more of a lone wolf than a sheep. Some of these opinions are, and not limited to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Connor
- I feel the meta is unhealthy for the game and the community.
- I never, EVER want to see the glamour system allow role and job specific gear to be glammed by a different role or job.
- I am perfectly ok that females have more fashion options than males.
- DRK is not broken. If they changed nothing I would still play it, and enjoy it. Besides, I always root for the underdog.
- SCH AF attire sucks! Most of us either want to look like school girls, or military strategists, and SE can't get either of them right. Closest they got was AF1, which was kind of a combination of the two. -
02-18-2018, 03:50 AMThirdChild_ZKIIt was a pain in the butt for most players who didn't make an effort to learn how to play and play well, much like any Extreme or Savage content would be for anyone who doesn't attempt to learn it. The old kits - and we've debated this many times now - natively had skills that proved to be highly effective in PvP where they were otherwise unused in PvE. I can't speak for most other jobs, but for MCH, the only things I didn't use were Spread/Grenado Shot, and even then there were odd occasions I could use them. You mention a semi-gimped PvP kit, yet each job then had PvP skills tailored to them, unlike what we have now: an optional sprint. Safeguard: a weak tank cooldown for all. Concentrate: a weaker Fetter Ward for all. Muse: a weak MP refresh for all, especially now that BRD and MCH can't restore MP anymore. . . See the trend there?Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
Once again 3.5 brought the uniform length reduction and standardization of all CC skills, which was actually a major improvement, especially with the diminshing returns of that time. Sure, a PLD could stun lock you, but if that was his one trick and he kept doing it, soon enough, it wouldn't work at all for the next minute. Now, length/duration of CC skills are so pathetically low, with an immediate immunity triggered after it (which I don't necessarily think is a bad thing, if the length of the actual effect weren't so short) is so laughably minor that it does little to actually benefit players. And that's assuming they're playing a job that even has them. Sorry DRG, MNK, and SAM.
This isn't nostalgia, and please stop trying to trivialize it as such. As it stands, unless you're a NIN, it's a bad time to be a melee. Healers are better tanks than Tanks are, and can cast faster, literally outheal any single hit or full combo, even before instant cast abilities come into play, and there's literally more imbalance now in this "fixed", "foundation" system that they don't even know HOW to build upon, let alone have yet to. But hey, leave it to SE to find something that works and somehow make it worse while trying to make people believe it's better. -
02-18-2018, 04:05 AMThirdChild_ZKINot sure if its unpopular but I think [Savage raids] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raim
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [PvP modes] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [unisex glamours] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [nerfs to older content] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [housing issues/availability issues] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [Eternal Bonds] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [new tank/healer jobs in the next expansion] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion, but I wanted to show how unhealthy that statement can be, and how easily it can applied to anything else in the game. -
02-18-2018, 04:10 AMKisama
I'm really bad at this game and I wish they would reduce the amount of buttons in pve to 9 so maybe I could clear savage content.
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02-18-2018, 04:16 AMMilanFrozenIsn't this what normal mode is for though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kisama
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02-18-2018, 04:53 AMRiyahArphalf the pve kit was literally worthless, ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kisama
-DOTs were worthless since healers kept heal over times on everyone, and really only the ones that procced an additional effect were used, i.e bard's ones. You couldn't maintain them at all, because of the nature of pvp engagements over pve ones; targets ran away, stayed out of melee range, and more.
-AOEs were worthless in general, despite the overall potency over single attacks, spike damage was king. At best aoe damage could be used to interrupt claiming a node in seal rock, but in other modes literally was wasted space. The only aoe attacks that mattered were sleep and cometeor.
-Any damaging spell on any healer was useless, because you had no clerics in it, and it was impossible to gear with enough int to make it damage, even if you got rid of mind. Some were legitmately bad; holy would do 300 points of damage and give every single person in range stun resistance.
-CC in general was present, but veered between overpowered and useless; overpowered in feast, often useless in FL since 24 people per side could apply resistance real quick unless coordinated. Especially if you had a smn with titan on sic.
-You had a lot of single attacks designed for maintenance in PvE, that became ridiculous to try and apply and refresh in pvp.
Half the pvp abilities themselves were useless. A lot of point blank aoes, if I remember. Most had two abilities offensively, then everyone picked the same defensive ones per role. If anything, getting rid of MP refresh was a good move, and TP refresh was useless in PvP once they made sprint not take TP.Quote:
It was a pain in the butt for most players who didn't make an effort to learn how to play and play well, much like any Extreme or Savage content would be for anyone who doesn't attempt to learn it. The old kits - and we've debated this many times now - natively had skills that proved to be highly effective in PvP where they were otherwise unused in PvE. I can't speak for most other jobs, but for MCH, the only things I didn't use were Spread/Grenado Shot, and even then there were odd occasions I could use them. You mention a semi-gimped PvP kit, yet each job then had PvP skills tailored to them, unlike what we have now: an optional sprint. Safeguard: a weak tank cooldown for all. Concentrate: a weaker Fetter Ward for all. Muse: a weak MP refresh for all, especially now that BRD and MCH can't restore MP anymore. . . See the trend there?
Once again 3.5 brought the uniform length reduction and standardization of all CC skills, which was actually a major improvement, especially with the diminshing returns of that time. Sure, a PLD could stun lock you, but if that was his one trick and he kept doing it, soon enough, it wouldn't work at all for the next minute. Now, length/duration of CC skills are so pathetically low, with an immediate immunity triggered after it (which I don't necessarily think is a bad thing, if the length of the actual effect weren't so short) is so laughably minor that it does little to actually benefit players. And that's assuming they're playing a job that even has them. Sorry DRG, MNK, and SAM.
Keep in mind 3.5 was the end of the expansion cycle, and till then we saw really nasty use of CC and really sucky balance. You're kind of pointing to the time when they finally fixed a lot of the problems of HW, and even then, they really struggled to get people into Feast. I'm rehashing this only for context in this thread.
And honestly, if it wasn't nostalgia, we should have not seen Feast empty out, nor should pvp have gone through the same boom and busy cycles then as it did now. It's not like it was even filled in 3.0 any greater than now. -
02-18-2018, 04:56 AMErryKThat's bait.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI
This is also bait.Quote:
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02-18-2018, 05:12 AMThirdChild_ZKI
The irony of your post is that it's far more baiting than both quotes.
I also want to cite that the topic is called "Discussing your unpopular opinions." Not "Say whatever you like and expect everyone to just read it."
Better it be "worthless" than completely unusable.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
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02-18-2018, 05:29 AMDualgunner
RDM's verraise (or access to it) should be heavily nerfed and in its place it should get either greater dps or another dps-boosting party support. There's no such thing as a jack-of-all-trades in this game and trying to force RDM into that non-existent slot only hurts it.
Not only that but no dps should have greater access to a recovery tool than a healer nor should they be expected to be the backbone for a healer. -
02-18-2018, 05:34 AMRiyahArpAll damaging skills on any healer were about useless. Most of the maintenance buffs, liek Hot Shot on MCH, were effectively useless because they were low potency attacks you were forced to use or in essence get a 10% penalty to overall dps. PvP server latency and how they would prioritize damage made a lot of movement abilities useless, as well as connection; it was pretty common to elusive jump back and be dead because the game calculated attacks as being present at all poitns on the jump. Generally there was a lot of filler; nin for example needed to do a useless two hit combo to apply their second dot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI
There was a pve example of this stuff too; Neverreap was so hated because the bosses broke the "stand still and be a big hittable pool of HP" rule. They'd go invincible and make all Dots fall off, or force periods of inactivity where all your timers were zero out. I think that's when people started to hate black mage, because then the enochian mechanic was so strict that it fell apart if the boss just poofed. Even in Pve the HW kit was showing some issues. -
02-18-2018, 05:42 AMAkorSMN would like to disagree with this a whole a lot. Even after the "nerfs" they still was king of the FL. After that BLM who still used they thunder/Thundercloud alot which still was one of the highest single target dmg+DoT. BRD was the same, they dots give alot of dmg and it was more usefull than u think they was, even now they are. We can argue w/e on melees it was usefull or not, but it was still nice to do add dots on them.Quote:
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02-18-2018, 06:12 AMErryKOh, backseat moderating. Cool, we're doing that this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI
Anyways, your post is bait because it only serves to belittle the opinion of the other poster. The fact that you even said it was unhealthy is largely hyperbole, it's just an opinion, it's not a venereal disease.
Frankly, his opinion is valid and bears truth to it, there's a small fraction of players actually killing Ultimate, compared to Savage, casual content like dungeons and even PvP. You were just using hyperbole to make a point, which is fair game but at the same time, it's dramatics. -
02-18-2018, 06:41 AMPomeloOh no you didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemina
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02-18-2018, 06:47 AMko_
I think Zenos is a tool and a lame baddie and he should take lessons from Eggman or M.Bison.
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02-18-2018, 06:56 AMVanitas
This game caters to people that probably can't even finish a single player game complaining that it's too hard and "how do I change the difficulty to easy???" The same people who would probably write a negative review on a dynasty warriors game saying the combat is too "complex and confusing" to understand.