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  1. #191
    Player dasva's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    Oh... yeah I thought it was obvious I wasn't being completely serious . Was largely in response to the whole bst is the best at all DDing and tanking and staying out of range and idk everything but support by someone who is blu crazy

    Though for a serious answer to the why not other nukers possibly for light/dark. But yeah it's mostly the way it can switch between everything and even req which gets around most dmg gimmicks and it's self sufficiently and just the sheer melee potential. Savage blade is almost as good as rudra's now
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    Last edited by dasva; 08-08-2015 at 05:44 PM.

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  3. #192
    Player machini's Avatar
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    Ivlilla
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    Asura
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    "Nerf the job that is doing better than my favorite job!"
    "What do you mean, my favorite job is OP and should be nerfed! Waaah"
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  4. #193
    Player Draylo-'s Avatar
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    You can single me out and keep attacking all you'd like, it just shows your immaturity. There are plenty of others who share my viewpoint and you aren't preventing anything by trying to stifle my opinion. One major factor is the JP are complaining, you can paint me as the Grinch and person who is spearheading the anti-BST movement all you would like but it won't change anything.
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  5. #194
    Player dasva's Avatar
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    It's the internet you can always get a few people to agree with you no matter how wrong you are. Plenty of other people know you are wildly exaggerating and that is being generous at times. I mean seriously basically the everyone responding on bg is telling you you are wrong

    And cmon you are spearheading the anti-bst movement on the English side.

    Btw 44 bst 52 blu on... but yeah clearly everyone just plays bst <.<
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    Last edited by dasva; 08-09-2015 at 04:10 AM.

  6. #195
    Player Draylo-'s Avatar
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    "Basically everyone responding on BG" is all BSTs that have their jimmies rustled because something negative about BST was said. Even in this new content they can toss pets at NMs and sit back and spam curing items and clear faster than DD oriented groups. You are the one downplaying their potential just to try and make it seem like it isn't as bad as it is. No I'm not doing any anti-BST movement, I've posted my opinion in this thread and a couple times on BG when someone tried to stop people from brainstorming strategies by saying "just toss pets at it!" Otherwise I don't even mention it. Then you bring your entire LS in here to rate your posts up and respond with silly comments about other jobs and wanting them nerfed, to retaliate against my opinion. Sounds like someone is scared and being really immature.
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  7. #196
    Player Malthar's Avatar
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    Actually, the new content is all about smn.
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  8. #197
    Player Tidis's Avatar
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    Tydis
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    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthar View Post
    Actually, the new content is all about smn.
    People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

    BST everything.
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  9. #198
    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Valefor
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    THF Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Tidis View Post
    People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

    BST everything.
    This is mostly to do with safety. Pet jobs and rng are less likely to die. People are saying because of this they need to nerf bst's damage which is the wrong approach. The problem is players have too little hp. So instead the solution is buff players hp so the front line isn't always a death sentence. As an example in Sinister reign one of the bosses does a thousand needle like move that splits 9999 damage across everyone it hits. The damage is unavoidable and is not affected by any sort of damage taken reduction, not earthen armor, not scherzo, not migiwari. So to survive without pets everyone has to stack up and split the 9999 damage 6 ways. Which still does almost all the hp of a player. Bst pets need 3 to soak up all that damage.
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  10. #199
    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Bazookatooth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidis View Post
    People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

    BST everything.
    FWIW, I've done about 60 runs in SR so far and RNG do just as much damage as the bst pets from the same safe distance. Perhaps your LS has a lot more well geared BST than RNG. Like Ulth said, the problem is that Player HP hasn't increased on par with NM damage output. Combine that with the fact that DDs are dumb and never wear DT- gear because it might marginally affect their Epeen damage numbers and you get what you have here. Take a look at the good BSTs. They have almost nothing but Pet DT- gear on. And I've been doing Escha NMs with sams, THfs, BLMs etc. just fine. Just because you haven't tried it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

    And for people saying that comments about other jobs are off topic, I'll leave you with this quote from the very first post in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post

    Please strengthen other jobs rather than nerfing BST.
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    Last edited by bazookatooth; 08-10-2015 at 02:04 AM.

  11. #200
    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    FWIW, I've done about 60 runs in SR so far and RNG do just as much damage as the bst pets from the same safe distance. Perhaps your LS has a lot more well geared BST than RNG. Like Ulth said, the problem is that Player HP hasn't increased on par with NM damage output. Combine that with the fact that DDs are dumb and never wear DT- gear because it might marginally affect their Epeen damage numbers and you get what you have here. Take a look at the good BSTs. They have almost nothing but Pet DT- gear on. And I've been doing Escha NMs with sams, THfs, BLMs etc. just fine. Just because you haven't tried it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

    And for people saying that comments about other jobs are off topic, I'll leave you with this quote from the very first post in this thread:
    Well the thing with the pet DT- is actually another reason why people think bst needs a nerf. Since pets really don't have a need for tp, their damage isn't hindered as much from full timing a damage taken set. Where as if I were to use my pdt set on thf my accuracy would hit the floor as most of thf's dt set is skirmish 1 armor and emet harness which its accuracy varies based on if you are in the popular unity or not.

    Also even with throwing all my kindred seals and login points at savory shanks I am still without a defending ring.
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