Please don't nerf beastmaster

[machini]

"Nerf the job that is doing better than my favorite job!"
"What do you mean, my favorite job is OP and should be nerfed! Waaah"

[Draylo-]

You can single me out and keep attacking all you'd like, it just shows your immaturity. There are plenty of others who share my viewpoint and you aren't preventing anything by trying to stifle my opinion. One major factor is the JP are complaining, you can paint me as the Grinch and person who is spearheading the anti-BST movement all you would like but it won't change anything.

[dasva]

It's the internet you can always get a few people to agree with you no matter how wrong you are. Plenty of other people know you are wildly exaggerating and that is being generous at times. I mean seriously basically the everyone responding on bg is telling you you are wrong

And cmon you are spearheading the anti-bst movement on the English side.

Btw 44 bst 52 blu on... but yeah clearly everyone just plays bst <.<

[Draylo-]

"Basically everyone responding on BG" is all BSTs that have their jimmies rustled because something negative about BST was said. Even in this new content they can toss pets at NMs and sit back and spam curing items and clear faster than DD oriented groups. You are the one downplaying their potential just to try and make it seem like it isn't as bad as it is. No I'm not doing any anti-BST movement, I've posted my opinion in this thread and a couple times on BG when someone tried to stop people from brainstorming strategies by saying "just toss pets at it!" Otherwise I don't even mention it. Then you bring your entire LS in here to rate your posts up and respond with silly comments about other jobs and wanting them nerfed, to retaliate against my opinion. Sounds like someone is scared and being really immature.

[dasva]

"Basically everyone responding on BG" is all BSTs that have their jimmies rustled because something negative about BST was said. Even in this new content they can toss pets at NMs and sit back and spam curing items and clear faster than DD oriented groups. You are the one downplaying their potential just to try and make it seem like it isn't as bad as it is. No I'm not doing any anti-BST movement, I've posted my opinion in this thread and a couple times on BG when someone tried to stop people from brainstorming strategies by saying "just toss pets at it!" Otherwise I don't even mention it. Then you bring your entire LS in here to rate your posts up and respond with silly comments about other jobs and wanting them nerfed, to retaliate against my opinion. Sounds like someone is scared and being really immature.

More like they are tired of you're trying to stir up anti-bst sentiment. People mention throwing pet bodies at something to soak up dmg or have something left after that dumb 9999 dmg move but that actually using pet strategies can result in much longer kills if they aren't well geared and you go off the deep end with omg this means pet jobs are OP and everyone tells you to shut it to the point where you get warnings for it.

And I don't tell my ls to do anything and only 2 ever post (1 of which I thought was still banned) so yeah pretty sure it's more than that rating me up. But it's really cute that you actually think about this so much that you come up with this kind of stuff and have to actually try to attack my character.

And the stuff about other jobs is satire. I don't actually think these jobs should be nerfed... I'm merely pointing out how they can compare to and surpass jugs. If one job should be nerfed for 1 reason then other jobs that can do the same should also be. Or neither should. And I think that's what really scares you about comparing other jobs... because in reality other jobs actually do compare and when everyone sees other jobs can do similar things then they all need nerfs or none do

PS. You keep saying you are just stating your opinions about bst and such... but is that really it? I mean look back at your posts... half of them are about other players and not the game or bst. How many times have you said so and so is trying too hard, or trying to cover up how good bst really is, or only saying that because they use bst a lot, or just because they are a pet ls, or are immature and scared etc. You quite frequently talk about the players motives or character vice anything about the game. While admittedly some people including myself have stretched the topic some at least it was about the game. And yes I have recently stooped down some to also respond in kind in the heat of the moment. And I'm sorry. So could we start keeping the discussion about the actual game from now on?

[Malthar]

Actually, the new content is all about smn.

[Tidis]

Actually, the new content is all about smn.

People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

BST everything.

[Ulth]

People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

BST everything.

This is mostly to do with safety. Pet jobs and rng are less likely to die. People are saying because of this they need to nerf bst's damage which is the wrong approach. The problem is players have too little hp. So instead the solution is buff players hp so the front line isn't always a death sentence. As an example in Sinister reign one of the bosses does a thousand needle like move that splits 9999 damage across everyone it hits. The damage is unavoidable and is not affected by any sort of damage taken reduction, not earthen armor, not scherzo, not migiwari. So to survive without pets everyone has to stack up and split the 9999 damage 6 ways. Which still does almost all the hp of a player. Bst pets need 3 to soak up all that damage.

[bazookatooth]

People in my LS have been doing Sinister Reign with BST in the DD slots, relying on RNG if they can't get BST, not to mention escha is always resorting to BST.

BST everything.

FWIW, I've done about 60 runs in SR so far and RNG do just as much damage as the bst pets from the same safe distance. Perhaps your LS has a lot more well geared BST than RNG. Like Ulth said, the problem is that Player HP hasn't increased on par with NM damage output. Combine that with the fact that DDs are dumb and never wear DT- gear because it might marginally affect their Epeen damage numbers and you get what you have here. Take a look at the good BSTs. They have almost nothing but Pet DT- gear on. And I've been doing Escha NMs with sams, THfs, BLMs etc. just fine. Just because you haven't tried it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

And for people saying that comments about other jobs are off topic, I'll leave you with this quote from the very first post in this thread:

Please strengthen other jobs rather than nerfing BST.

[Ulth]

FWIW, I've done about 60 runs in SR so far and RNG do just as much damage as the bst pets from the same safe distance. Perhaps your LS has a lot more well geared BST than RNG. Like Ulth said, the problem is that Player HP hasn't increased on par with NM damage output. Combine that with the fact that DDs are dumb and never wear DT- gear because it might marginally affect their Epeen damage numbers and you get what you have here. Take a look at the good BSTs. They have almost nothing but Pet DT- gear on. And I've been doing Escha NMs with sams, THfs, BLMs etc. just fine. Just because you haven't tried it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

And for people saying that comments about other jobs are off topic, I'll leave you with this quote from the very first post in this thread:

Well the thing with the pet DT- is actually another reason why people think bst needs a nerf. Since pets really don't have a need for tp, their damage isn't hindered as much from full timing a damage taken set. Where as if I were to use my pdt set on thf my accuracy would hit the floor as most of thf's dt set is skirmish 1 armor and emet harness which its accuracy varies based on if you are in the popular unity or not.

Also even with throwing all my kindred seals and login points at savory shanks I am still without a defending ring.