Solo Accomplishments, Party Barriers, and Enhancing the Community

[Afania]

There's a difference between what that was and what this would be in many ways as well. As I said, Empyreans and Relics were aplenty by compared to the number of Mythics in the world, also Legion content if I remember right had so much evasion a Ragnarok was nearly required on that fact alone, especially when you add in Resolution and the fact that people only PD zerged the event which meant kill speed was the primary goal. You're also forgetting part of the other reason why this was done was to weed out the bad players, there were tons of people with Ukon or Vere but not nearly as many people knew how to play their jobs and could actually get things done right, so requiring a Ragnarok was sort of an idiot-checker to make sure that the WAR you were getting was a somewhat well geared person, not someone who went to Abyssea for a few days and thought they were god.

I knew a couple of good Vere/Ukon DD at that time, none of them can compete against rag DDs. The entire design and crit-hit rate- trait and high eva on NM just favor Rag DD a lot more. I didn't filter out Vere/Ukon DD cuz they were bad, but because they just parsed lower than rag.

I think that the daunting task of making a Mythic to do content would throw people completely off of it and simply make those with Mythics already some amazing DDs while everyone else might over time try to make them, but it'd be probably 3~6 months before it could even possibly become a norm, and by then SE would have had time to figure out a decent way to nerf the Mythic's power down to size.

Nerf 19 Mythic's power...you mean those who spent months and years to build other mythic only to get face slapped? That wasn't even close to a good suggestion, more like you're against your own argument.

A Mythic DRG is far from something that would become required when we're clearing the content right now without it, so only people who want to maximize their chances of winning would be so stupid as to shout for Mythic DRGs or only accept them,

ATM a mythic DRG won't make too much difference cuz DRG is not optimal in delve2 6 man run due to delve mechanics, yes. But 1) Unless the game shut down SE WILL create more higher lv content in the future. Maybe they'll create content lv 130, 140 and eventually 150 etc. AFAIK there are supposed to be 7 delve bosses total.

So yeah, you never know the difficulty of future content. I'd rather look at the entire balance issue from a long term POV instead of short sighted "fix".

2) In current delve2 content, your output actually matters. Having good output means you can make more mistake on pull/hate reset mechanics/amnesia/shitting accident. Having avg output means if you make 2~3 mistakes you will time out.

And btw, for content like VD battle field, I only go with relic RNG. Against higher lv content you really need to get as much output as possible.

Further more, even if the content is clear-able with avg DD setup, going with OP DD setup means you can farm the content in higher efficiency, and carry leeches, sell win, and so on.

So say, if future content has the same difficulty as delve2, while avg DD setup clearing them in 40 min, OP DD setup is clearing them in 20 min and farming plasm/gear twice as fast, or carry extra leeches and sell win. That created a gap and it'd become "be friends with OP DD or don't even think about efficiency/sell win".

In general I agree, but while we're on the topic of happiness. Go ask those DRGs who play MNK and such to get their gear and progress in the game if they're truly happy with having to cop out like that just to gear their real job. If you ask them that and they actually say yes they're happy that way, then I'll say again you have a point but if the majority of them say that they're unhappy but just have to deal with it, then perhaps your happiness scale isn't quite the same as you think it is. I'll once again use anecdotal evidence of that though by saying right now that I made that choice, and I was never happy about having to make it in my entire time playing this game.

And imagine a fix that'd make you happy, but it makes everyone else unhappy. Including the DRG who picked No.1 and feeling unhappy about it, they're still the minority v.s the entire endgame community.


Again, I'm not against fixing DRG, but only if Mythic DRG doesn't ended up way too OP v.s another DD, or else it's just a short sighted fix that doesn't really fix the game balance issue, but only create more weak DD job. According to my experience, most DD players tend to lv/gear the strongest DD, once those ppl all start to lv and gear Mythic DRG, SAM DRK MNK WAR gonna be the next job cry in the corner and click the job change button: that doesn't fix anything, just creates more problem.