Reforged AF - Blocked on Step 1?

[Ravenmore]

it is in no way a road block. It would be a road block if the fights were still all level capped and you still needed a full party as it has been said over and over you can burn though fast solo with little effort set the 500 damage RoE and you can get a little extra out of it as you go.

[bungiefanNA]

You also have to have some mission completion, and a lot of other stuff to get level 119 Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons. Why should the armor just be given away when the equivalent weapons aren't? Can't build a relic without Dynamis, which requires Rank 6, and then you have to do a bunch of other things or have a lot of gil to upgrade and hope people are farming them in events to sell them. Mythic requires questing and killing NMs. Empyrean requires EX items from NM kills. AF reforging is much less work and much easier requirements.

The armor from RoE is there for the giveaway stuff if you don't want to do the gated content, and is of relatively high level in comparison.

[cthullhu420]

I don't mind doing the old content and destroying the bosses but being stuck almost a week on a mission cause you need 2 people for that stupid sealion key crap is just ridiculous. Even harder when friends have long gone, no linkshell and a population anywhere between 500-700 people that are not willing to help unless there's a ridiculous reward or just cant be bothered or just afk all day. Not to mention my available playtime is anywhere from 11pm pst to 3 am pst so no Na primetime for me. Partied with a lot of japan/european players since 04 cause of the available play time but the auto translate becomes monotonous when trying to explain or give orders of what to do.

[Damane]

I don't mind doing the old content and destroying the bosses but being stuck almost a week on a mission cause you need 2 people for that stupid sealion key crap is just ridiculous. Even harder when friends have long gone, no linkshell and a population anywhere between 500-700 people that are not willing to help unless there's a ridiculous reward or just cant be bothered or just afk all day. Not to mention my available playtime is anywhere from 11pm pst to 3 am pst so no Na primetime for me. Partied with a lot of japan/european players since 04 cause of the available play time but the auto translate becomes monotonous when trying to explain or give orders of what to do.

I am sorry but if you dont have 1 friend left to help you quickly on such a mission, I dont see the point on why you are playing an MMO in the first place Oo. I also dont see why you didnt build up some connections with EU players or Eu Linkshells if you play in their timezone (gratned EU players are fewer then NA or JP)

The other solution would be to have a mule

[Crevox]

I dont see the point on why you are playing an MMO in the first place Oo.

Yeah, it makes no sense why SE would add trust NPCs. I mean, nobody plays alone. Nobody. Ever.

[Afania]

You really have to have beaten CoP to reforge the AF gear?

Why is such a random requirement in place? "Go do this really old content, all of it, in order to prepare yourself for current content, even if you already have the items"

It's just so bogus for players like myself. I was so happy I managed to get the pages and stuff together for the reforged AF in preparation for when I hit 99, and again it looks like I'm nowhere close because I have to go back to do tons of old missions in order to be able to get current content gear.

It just never ends. SE makes it so stupidly difficult to start this game as a new player. There's SO many things you have to go back and do, even at a high level, just to be able to play the game.

I'm just sitting here, just thinking about all of what I'm gonna have to go through. It just makes me not even want to play... I've already done SO MUCH, and every time I think I'm ready to actually level to 99 and enjoy myself, there's something more, some other chore I have to go complete first.

Just... sigh...

Randomly popped here then I see this Crevox guy complaining about "WHY THIS GAME TAKES FOREVER TO DO ANYTHING" again.

Maybe I'll ans the question this way: This is FFXI, a game that's different from a lot of instant gratification MMO on the market, and it's a game that's NOT for everyone.

Plenty of long time FFXI player, enjoyed FFXI because of the way it is: It's not instant gratification MMO, it doesn't hand you item and 1000 accomplishment after 2 weeks of playing, and it's not meant to be played for 3 months then quit for next MMO like other titles. It's meant to be a "2nd life" or "2nd home" where we log on and play the FFXI, just for the sake of play FFXI and live a life in it, instead of playing FFXI to beat it or to obtain best gears in very short time so we can quit and play next title.

It does have much slower pace than avg MMO that majority of current-gen players can't tolerate, that doesn't mean it's "bad". Majority of current-gen players probably can't tolerate EQ/SWG/UO and such, but it's not "bad", just different.

If you feel doing CoP BC or older content is a waste of time because you can watch youtube, then save yourself a sub fee, there's no point to even play this game if that's how you view it. It seems like you're playing this game like WoW, lv to cap, get best gear, beat shit, all happen in 3 months of playing. But that's not how FFXI works, and don't try to change to it WoW, SE already made FFXIV to satisfy FF fans wanting WoW clone MMO.

If you can only enjoy the game by having lv 99 job and best gears in every slot, quit now. You'll NEVER have best gears in every slot and so you'll never enjoy the game. I've been playing this game for 4+ years, daily. I've never have best gears in every slot once in my life, and I probably know 1~2 players per server that can have best gears in every slot for ONE job. You really need to change your mentality of playing this game, or else you simply won't enjoy it no matter what.

Edit: Watching CoP on youtube and skip it entirely, seriously?? Blasphemy! CoP used to be synonym of FFXI, now it's just a "watch youtube and skip it" missions.

[Crevox]

don't try to change to it WoW,

Too late. Item levels, gear progression, time gated content galore.

Also, I played DAoC back in the day. I'm not new to "classic MMO" style where things take a long time to get.

Please stop following me and spamming posts at me. It's turning into harassment.

[Afania]

Too late. Item levels, gear progression, time gated content galore.

Also, I played DAoC back in the day. I'm not new to "classic MMO" style where things take a long time to get.

Please stop following me and spamming posts at me. It's turning into harassment.

Last time I checked, FFXI server start hitting sub 1k during NA prime time right after ILV introduced, with fans starting riot on the forum, that's before ARR launch, so nothing to do with ARR. After that ILV haven't increase for nearly 1 year, and unlikely to increase after Feb update. Dev also introduce ILv for different reason, because they want to raise character lv above 99. They may have the intention to copy WoW at first but it didn't work too well so they changed plans ;D


Also if you don't want me to "harass" you(I don't even understand why presenting opposite opinion is harassment), stop making ridiculous opinion like "I can watch CoP on youtube, what a waste of time to do it". Technically that can apply to every single game on the market.

[Crevox]

that's before ARR launch, so nothing to do with ARR.

I never said anything about ARR. We were talking about WoW.

Item level system was made by Blizzard.

[Afania]

I never said anything about ARR. We were talking about WoW.

I know ILV came from WOW. I mentioned ARR launch because it's 1 major reason why sub dropped, besides SoA direction hate.

I was talking about how sub dropped because majority of FFXI players didn't like ILV. ARR launch is 1 reason why active player number dropped after Aug, ILV is another. You can tell by looking at how active player number dropped after ILV even before ARR launch, and how it continue to drop all the way until Nov post ARR launch, only to recently recover when Dev start moving away from WoW gear progressions. It haven't decrease for about 2 months when dev start moving away from vertical progression in Nov. That's probably the main reason why we kept getting reforge AF 1 2 3, and no delve 2 nor 119+ gear yet. Dev is probably observing player's reaction toward current direction, and don't want to push ILV higher too soon because of previous failure.

You said "too late, FFXI already moving toward WoW direction", but number shows that moving toward WoW direction doesn't help with sub, it drops faster. When dev try to move away from it active player stays. If dev is smart they wouldn't want to move toward WoW direction further. There's nothing "too late" about.