This thread AGAIN, please, fix WK.

[Daemon]

Your country didn't beat diablo III. A few people did. Your country went to work, school, etc. just like everyone else in the world. Stop trying to take credit for other peoples achievements. Nationalism is another form of prejudice just like racism. Knock it off.

As for your other analogies and stories...

How would you like it if some kid who remixed a puff daddy song on his macbook in his moms basement once started telling you that getting rich off DJing is super easy and that you just need to suck less? Because that's how you sound. Telling people that they are the problem when you don't actually know.

I wouldn't know. I don't listen to puff daddy music. I don't live in my moms basement. And I don't skim through people's comments and judge them for something they are not.

Before you make such a subtle judgement conclusion of what you think of a person you should make sure you know the facts. I never knew my father because he died before I was born. I haven't seen my mother in over 13 years and most of my childhood I've been through foster homes because my mother could not work and raise me on her own. So all my life I have working hard and raising myself to be independent putting myself through school and college.

So if you want to continue assuming you know about me. Enlighten me and continue to repeat these judgements that others have used over and over on others like a poor excuse played as broken records.

I said know our culture then maybe you would understand me better.

Obviously you rather judge people than get to know different cultures. And this is why many people don't want to stay and be around negative people like you.

I never took credit for anyone's achievements. The example of Diablo III was an example of how us Koreans are hardcore gamers.

People who knows me on Phoenix knows I'm a hardcore gamer.

DJing maybe super easy to those who only buy an iPod and press play. But I assure you its not easy being that real DJs take over $30,000 investing in personal gear and music. And 20 years of experience mixing shows a significant difference in performance compared to your "It's easy to DJ and you can get rich quick" assumption.

DJ life is one of the most poor lives to live. We invest most of our salary buying music. But you wouldn't know that because you automatically judge that every DJ has it easy like Afrojack and SMH.

You have no idea what you are talking about and its insulting. Go watch Danny Tenaglia and compare him with Afrojack and come back and make your assumption again.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p09T0WRklHY

Til this day Mainstream instant fame DJs have ruined a beautiful art basing music on instant gratification and convenience than knowing what house music really is about.

Taking over house music and incorporating it into pop and then calling it house music.

Unless you've DJd long enough to know how the business really works then I could be open minded on your opinion.

At first I enjoyed our debates. But after reading that comment. I lost respect for you.

Then again I've already seen you make wrong assumptions of others in previous comments on this thread before.

[detlef]

Ha, you're such a hypocrite. You judge us as much as you say we judge you. The only reason you feel like you're the one being persecuted is because you've gone out of your way to put yourself out there. Nobody would make fun of your gaming class if you hadn't mentioned it. Nobody would make fun of your DJing if you hadn't brought it up. Nobody would question your skills or the skills of your linkshell if you hadn't shown so little experience with current content. If you are going to brag about how great your skills are, wiping to Tojil makes it hard to take you seriously.

Basically, the more you put yourself out there, the more you leave yourself to be judged. If you talk about how great you and your linkshell are, people will question it.

Anyway, I snuck into a 35% Yumcax (even though I said I would never go back) and got Buremte Gloves so I guess you were right the whole time. It was a 10 hour fight.

[Daemon]

Ha, you're such a hypocrite. You judge us as much as you say we judge you. The only reason you feel like you're the one being persecuted is because you've gone out of your way to put yourself out there. Nobody would make fun of your gaming class if you hadn't mentioned it. Nobody would make fun of your DJing if you hadn't brought it up. Nobody would question your skills or the skills of your linkshell if you hadn't shown so little experience with current content. If you are going to brag about how great your skills are, wiping to Tojil makes it hard to take you seriously.

Basically, the more you put yourself out there, the more you leave yourself to be judged. If you talk about how great you and your linkshell are, people will question it.

Anyway, I snuck into a 35% Yumcax (even though I said I would never go back) and got Buremte Gloves so I guess you were right the whole time. It was a 10 hour fight.

I guess its not meant to make friends on the forums. Since people don't interact with each other and do stuff together hiding behind a sprite, its easier to treat people like they don't matter and put someone down for more "likes"

There is a difference between bragging and defending myself. Obviously I was defending myself due to encountering attitudes like

"You don't know jack because you couldn't join a decent party to beat Tojil so I know more than you and refuse to think you are up to my level until you do."

"And just because you've played 11 years doesn't mean anything, your a noob and we are better than you. Until you beat Tojil, we are more superior than you."


Grats on your gloves by the way.

Maybe 10 hour fight, but in reality you are holding the boss that long so others can join in and play too.

I guess you were right the whole time.

I get that a lot. But It never has to be this way if people were a little more patient than jump to conclusions and pay attention to detail.

I've only played WR once and saw how the event was drawn out. Reading several comments also told me the story.

[Demon6324236]

I guess its not meant to make friends on the forums. Since people don't interact with each other and do stuff together hiding behind a sprite, its easier to treat people like they don't matter and put someone down for more "likes"

This has nothing to do with likes, it has to do with attempting to voice an opinion, and in this case most peoples opinion is that your looking like a fool due to what you say.

There is a difference between bragging and defending myself.

"You don't know jack because you couldn't join a decent party to beat Tojil so I know more than you and refuse to think you are up to my level until you do."

"And just because you've played 11 years doesn't mean anything, your a noob and we are better than you. Until you beat Tojil, we are more superior than you."

No one said this, everyone asked if you had beaten Tojil because you were claiming that it could be done in a party setup which would not make it to Tojil, let alone kill it. To make such claims always brings up the question of if you have ever even fought it because the claim is that far out of what people deem to be realistic. You made an outrageous claim, which in this case made you sound like you flat out haven't done it, and have no idea what your talking about. It would be like if with WKs someone said that the fight was easy and fast and always rewarding. Its not people saying 'Get on my level noob!' its people saying 'What? Have you even done that content? That's not even close to realistic!'

Maybe 10 hour fight, but in reality you are holding the boss that long so others can join in and play too.

There is no justifiable reason a small group of players should need to stand in a small area with a highly dangerous NM & its minions until an army arrives to help because they are 'holding the boss that long so others can join in'. If I get on FFXI, I should be playing FFXI, not joining a WK so I can afk inside the WK for 7 hours until the right amount of people are there for us to actually put up some kind of fight, then play a single repetitive fight for the nest 2~3 hours just so I can get a log or pebble.

[Demon6324236]

I get that a lot.

You get that a lot, but you didn't get the sarcasm in it.

[Daemon]

You get that a lot, but you didn't get the sarcasm in it.

He got his gloves no? You guys got your response from the DEV Team no? I guess complaining miserabley and being negative is healthy and feeling depressed all the time rubbing it off on others is good for the community and the people around you. Even if it means destroying your friends in the process?

[Daemon]

This has nothing to do with likes, it has to do with attempting to voice an opinion, and in this case most peoples opinion is that your looking like a fool due to what you say.

There is a difference between bragging and defending myself.

No one said this, everyone asked if you had beaten Tojil because you were claiming that it could be done in a party setup which would not make it to Tojil, let alone kill it. To make such claims always brings up the question of if you have ever even fought it because the claim is that far out of what people deem to be realistic. You made an outrageous claim, which in this case made you sound like you flat out haven't done it, and have no idea what your talking about. It would be like if with WKs someone said that the fight was easy and fast and always rewarding. Its not people saying 'Get on my level noob!' its people saying 'What? Have you even done that content? That's not even close to realistic!'

There is no justifiable reason a small group of players should need to stand in a small area with a highly dangerous NM & its minions until an army arrives to help because they are 'holding the boss that long so others can join in'. If I get on FFXI, I should be playing FFXI, not joining a WK so I can afk inside the WK for 7 hours until the right amount of people are there for us to actually put up some kind of fight, then play a single repetitive fight for the nest 2~3 hours just so I can get a log or pebble.

Ugh get your facts straight. I already said I assumed we were talking about WR the whole time.

I mean that's the topic discussion of this thread no???

NOT TOJIL.

I even said if you want to talk about Tojil then everything I said would become irrelevant. Tojil is a time limit event.

Unlike WR where using various jobs and strategy can work.

Instead of listening to me, you guys are too busy trying to dawg me. Insult me and make me look a fool. Ignoring what I said and making wrong assumptions only to feed each other the fire to go against me.

And I'm assuming the hate meter is enough for me to not even bother logging ingame anymore because how awkward the direction of our debate is turning.

[Demon6324236]

He got his gloves no?

Yes.

You guys got your response from the DEV Team no?

No actually we didn't, as it was pointed out we got a copy pasted response from a couple weeks ago reposted by a rep in here, nothing from the Dev team of which was new, and nothing addressing the key issues. You see, one of the funny things is that they are trying to get more people in the WKs, let me explain though, I have went as a DD, as a DD, the mobs die less than 10~15 seconds after popping, its hard to get to actually hit them much at all because of how fast they die. As a healer, its hard to find random people to heal, and the PLD is cure bombed to no tomorrow so that doesn't work always. Support jobs get nothing practically. So if your not SMN or COR you will just be taking away what others can do for Bayld, not enough Bayld, no items, and faster kill times within a real fight means less chance to get Bayld. So bringing more people is also an issue, we need to simply be able to do it with less.

I guess complaining miserabley and being negative is healthy and feeling depressed all the time rubbing it off on others is good for the community and the people around you. Even if it means destroying your friends in the process?

No, asking for a bad event to be made good no matter if I get my things or not is good for the community. Simply saying I got what I wanted, event must be good, or that I did a few good ones, it must not be that bad, doing those things is bad because your just covering up an issue which needs resolved.

[Demon6324236]

Ugh get your facts straight. I already said I assumed we were talking about WR the whole time.

I mean that's the topic discussion of this thread no???

NOT TOJIL.

You fail to understand that almost every post made during that argument was under the assumption that you were talking about Tojil and thus yes, everything I just said is valid, because what you were saying was taken in that way, and replied to as such.

Instead of listening to me, you guys are too busy trying to dawg me. Insult me and make me look a fool. Ignoring what I said and making wrong assumptions only to feed each other the fire to go against me.

Yes that's exactly it...

And I'm assuming the hate meter is enough for me to not even bother logging ingame anymore because how awkward the direction of our debate is turning.

Funny thing is you said you came back to FFXI to talk to me, yet not once since you started posting again have you sent me a single tell that I have received. So who knows, maybe if you got on to talk at some point or actually do something we could do so, but instead you spend all your time here arguing with people and never log in because you refuse to use Windowed mode so that you can do both at once so far as I last knew. Why not stop posting here if you think everyone hates you & ignores what you say and instead simply get on the game and actually play it instead of just talking about it.

[Daemon]

You fail to understand that almost every post made during that argument was under the assumption that you were talking about Tojil and thus yes, everything I just said is valid, because what you were saying was taken in that way, and replied to as such.

Yes that's exactly it...

Funny thing is you said you came back to FFXI to talk to me, yet not once since you started posting again have you sent me a single tell that I have received. So who knows, maybe if you got on to talk at some point or actually do something we could do so, but instead you spend all your time here arguing with people and never log in because you refuse to use Windowed mode so that you can do both at once so far as I last knew. Why not stop posting here if you think everyone hates you & ignores what you say and instead simply get on the game and actually play it instead of just talking about it.

Why would the assumption be based on Tojil if we were talking about Hurkan and Yumkax since the beginning and why would I go through all of that explaining how WR has longer fights allowing a better window for players to join in.

I'm sorry but the conditions of Delve and WR clearly are not the same. And the amount of time is not the same.

You guys complained about WR loot drops, I never disagreed but this entire time we were in fact talking about WR and regardless of becoming derailed off topic I still assumed we were discussing WR, NOT Tojil.

As for not logging in I have not been home this week since I payed sub fee. Working 80 hours this week. I barely had 2 hours sleep everyday. When I get home I did intend to login.

But if you want to hold that against me.

I've been posting off my smartphone the entire time. Not computer. That's why I have to go back and make edits.