This thread AGAIN, please, fix WK.

[Demon6324236]

I'm not holding things against you, I was pointing out you said you got back on to talk, yet aren't ever on, and at the same time say something about wondering if its even worth getting back on. My point was, how would you know when you haven't been. You know as well as I that we separate forum talk & in game talk, I have little understanding as to why that would suddenly change, or where the magical hate meter came from.

[Daemon]

I'm not holding things against you, I was pointing out you said you got back on to talk, yet aren't ever on, and at the same time say something about wondering if its even worth getting back on. My point was, how would you know when you haven't been. You know as well as I that we separate forum talk & in game talk, I have little understanding as to why that would suddenly change, or where the magical hate meter came from.

It came from the last time I logged in assuming your anger carried over to in game. Now that our arguments are heating up again, I question if its going to have an effect.

[Demon6324236]

Probably just caught me on one of my shitty days, or one of the days my migraines got worse.

[Daemon]

Probably just caught me on one of my shitty days, or one of the days my migraines got worse.

Oh ok, I work a double starting from 6pm to 3am then 7:30 am to 7:30 pm tomorrow. So if I'm not whacked out over drinking 20 cups of coffee incoherent, then ill try to login and say hi.

[Fynlar]

rofl @ "I'm korean and we're so awesome but I still haven't beaten Tojil" tirade

[FrankReynolds]

I wouldn't know. I don't listen to puff daddy music. I don't live in my moms basement. And I don't skim through people's comments and judge them for something they are not.

I never said you did. Start over at the beginning and really read it before you respond.

Before you make such a subtle judgement conclusion of what you think of a person you should make sure you know the facts. I never knew my father because he died before I was born. I haven't seen my mother in over 13 years and most of my childhood I've been through foster homes because my mother could not work and raise me on her own. So all my life I have working hard and raising myself to be independent putting myself through school and college.

I don't care. See above.

So if you want to continue assuming you know about me. Enlighten me and continue to repeat these judgements that others have used over and over on others like a poor excuse played as broken records.

I "Judged you based on what you wrote on these forums. Unless you were lying about being a DJ and having done one Tojil, my analogy is spot on.

I said know our culture then maybe you would understand me better.

I don't care about learning your culture. I care about this game. I have no interest in learning foreign culture from a video game forum... or even discussing it really.

Obviously you rather judge people than get to know different cultures. And this is why many people don't want to stay and be around negative people like you.

Nope, you are the negative one. You keep trying to make this a racial issue when it is clearly about a video game. Please take your racial / cultural comparisons to the appropriate racist website of your choosing. It has no place here.

I never took credit for anyone's achievements. The example of Diablo III was an example of how us Koreans are hardcore gamers.

See how you said "us Koreans"? That wasn't you. It was some koreans. Probably koreans that you have never met, will never meet and know nothing about. So don't try and lump yourself in with them and stop trying to lump everyone who speaks English together in the same way, because newsflash... you speak English too.

People who knows me on Phoenix knows I'm a hardcore gamer.

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DJing maybe super easy to those who only buy an iPod and press play. But I assure you its not easy being that real DJs take over $30,000 investing in personal gear and music. And 20 years of experience mixing shows a significant difference in performance compared to your "It's easy to DJ and you can get rich quick" assumption.

DJ life is one of the most poor lives to live. We invest most of our salary buying music. But you wouldn't know that because you automatically judge that every DJ has it easy like Afrojack and SMH.

You have no idea what you are talking about and its insulting. Go watch Danny Tenaglia and compare him with Afrojack and come back and make your assumption again.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p09T0WRklHY

Til this day Mainstream instant fame DJs have ruined a beautiful art basing music on instant gratification and convenience than knowing what house music really is about.

Taking over house music and incorporating it into pop and then calling it house music.

Unless you've DJd long enough to know how the business really works then I could be open minded on your opinion.

At first I enjoyed our debates. But after reading that comment. I lost respect for you.

Then again I've already seen you make wrong assumptions of others in previous comments on this thread before.

First of all, you obviously didn't understand my post. I never said DJing was easy. I said that you wouldn't like it if someone said it was. Clearly you don't. That's how people who have heavy experience with this stuff feel when you comment like you know about it. You don't. When it comes to Tojil, WKR etc, you are the kid with the iPod.

Second of all... HI I'm a DJ too. I literally have thousands of vinyl records. I have a garage and a storage unit offsite full to the brim with equipment. I don't do it professionally anymore because i have a girlfriend who doesn't like her man being out all night, but I could if I wanted to because I am that good and I have friends who are doing quite well in the business. I did opening sets for hundreds of hip hop acts from Wu-tang to tupac to KRS-one and Run DMC back in my younger (Single) days. I can still get backstage at just about any venue I want to because I still piss off my neighbors mixing every night and I still mess around and cut sh&^* up with my friends who are in the industry at their shows. As a matter of fact, I'll be back stage at Rock the Bells this weekend with my friends.

[Daemon]

I never said you did. Start over at the beginning and really read it before you respond.



I don't care. See above.



I "Judged you based on what you wrote on these forums. Unless you were lying about being a DJ and having done one Tojil, my analogy is spot on.



I don't care about learning your culture. I care about this game. I have no interest in learning foreign culture from a video game forum... or even discussing it really.




Nope, you are the negative one. You keep trying to make this a racial issue when it is clearly about a video game. Please take your racial / cultural comparisons to the appropriate racist website of your choosing. It has no place here.



See how you said "us Koreans"? That wasn't you. It was some koreans. Probably koreans that you have never met, will never meet and know nothing about. So don't try and lump yourself in with them and stop trying to lump everyone who speaks English together in the same way, because newsflash... you speak English too.



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First of all, you obviously didn't understand my post. I never said DJing was easy. I said that you wouldn't like it if someone said it was. Clearly you don't. That's how people who have heavy experience with this stuff feel when you comment like you know about it. You don't. When it comes to Tojil, WKR etc, you are the kid with the iPod.

Second of all... HI I'm a DJ too. I literally have thousands of vinyl records. I have a garage and a storage unit offsite full to the brim with equipment. I don't do it professionally anymore because i have a girlfriend who doesn't like her man being out all night, but I could if I wanted to because I am that good and I have friends who are doing quite well in the business. I did opening sets for hundreds of hip hop acts from Wu-tang to tupac to KRS-one and Run DMC back in my younger (Single) days. I can still get backstage at just about any venue I want to because I still piss off my neighbors mixing every night and I still mess around and cut sh&^* up with my friends who are in the industry at their shows. As a matter of fact, I'll be back stage at Rock the Bells this weekend with my friends.

Your analogy is completely irrelevant. It's one thing if I never played FFXI and only played Tojil once. It's another if I've been playing 11 years, have knowledge of game programming, know how computers and software works and have experience enough to know that playing a boss fight comes to the same conclusion.

You don't have to be a wiz kid or a genius to know that a boss fight is a boss fight.

OMG does it really take higher education to know and understand that a boss uses skills, abilities, has time limits, Spawn conditions?

You act like having 11 years of experience doesn't give me the authority to know what I'm talking about.

I've played Tojil once. Big deal. Did you kill Tojil solo? Or did you depend on 17 other people to help you? Just because I did not join a freakin group that was capable doesnt mean i'm some noob that doesn't know jack.

That's like saying big deal you played 11 years, until you beat Kirin, Byakko, Qilin, Aello, you don't know jack.

And if I'm not working 80 hours a week you wouldn't even be trying to use Tojil against me as an excuse for "You don't know what your talking about, your opinion means nothing, so until you beat Tojil, then open your mouth and talk"

Which is BS. Only elitist think this way. Playing Delve more than 200 times is enough know how Delve works. Playing Tojil 1 time is enough to know how it works.

Reading Tojil strategies is common sense before you play the boss. Do I need a PHD to learn this? Then again having 17 other people skilled, listen well to instruction and knows how to work as a team with proper gear makes a difference.

Don't single me out and think I don't know anything.

You play hip hop. I play house music. Conditions are different. I mix, You cut. In the end we are both still playing music. The difference is how you play the music. 20 years of experience is enough to have an opinion.

[Demon6324236]

People aren't singling you out because you don't know anything, they are saying you have little experience with Tojil, as you have confirmed by saying you have fought him only a single time. No matter the skill of the group, number of people, or anything else on the subject, it matters not, you have very little experience with the NM compared to others with much greater experience, which was part of the point of the entire Tojil debate here.

Also, in the 11 years, the game has changed, never before now could we have 2 SCH/BLM keep a NM stunned at nearly all times of a battle, also, we could never stun every attack, and every attack was not certain death, admittedly we have gotten past the part where all attacks kill you, but some of them are still so deadly that its a stun or die kinda game we play. So even if you have experience for the last 11 years, it means jack when your fighting something that attacks with types of things you have never had to really deal with before, such as Lahar, which causes weakness without killing you, a type of attack VW temps let us avoid, and only those few people who did Legion really experienced issues with before Adoulin. While you have this experience, in this case, its different, the only content in a while people have had to fight like Delve Bosses, were Legion NMs, so unless you did Legion, you really don't have as much experience in the field as you believe you do in my opinion.

[Daemon]

People aren't singling you out because you don't know anything, they are saying you have little experience with Tojil, as you have confirmed by saying you have fought him only a single time. No matter the skill of the group, number of people, or anything else on the subject, it matters not, you have very little experience with the NM compared to others with much greater experience, which was part of the point of the entire Tojil debate here.

Also, in the 11 years, the game has changed, never before now could we have 2 SCH/BLM keep a NM stunned at nearly all times of a battle, also, we could never stun every attack, and every attack was not certain death, admittedly we have gotten past the part where all attacks kill you, but some of them are still so deadly that its a stun or die kinda game we play. So even if you have experience for the last 11 years, it means jack when your fighting something that attacks with types of things you have never had to really deal with before, such as Lahar, which causes weakness without killing you, a type of attack VW temps let us avoid, and only those few people who did Legion really experienced issues with before Adoulin. While you have this experience, in this case, its different, the only content in a while people have had to fight like Delve Bosses, were Legion NMs, so unless you did Legion, you really don't have as much experience in the field as you believe you do in my opinion.

And what experience do I ultimately need to do my part in an 18 man alliance? If I play WHM, cure, buff, conserve MP, common strategy such as casting Flash when Boss TPs, using Maytr when too much hate has been generated from cures. Casting cure on Tanker giving temp stoneskin when mob TPs. Quick reflex cast barspells according to mobs Spellcasting. Use devotion on important job in party such as PLD.

What more can I do in a 17 man party other than know my job, listen to instruction, work as a team. I don't need to play Tojil and win to qualify the title of "I'm elite"

I know how to play several jobs and I know them well enough to know how to contribute my share and more.

That's what 8+ hours of solo practice everyday for many years and going back to help lower levels fight Taxet, and other bosses plus spending endless hours in WoE provided training so I could know how to be ready for events like a Tojil.

Maybe you need to party with me more DJ so you can make a better judgement of how I play because others that have played with me can't say jack about my skills and those who made an assumption before playing with me were proven wrong.

Every time I play with my JP LS we try to kill boss with least amount of people that others try to do with 18 man alliance.

[Demon6324236]

I don't need to play Tojil and win to qualify the title of "I'm elite"

Were not talking about you being 'elite' we are talking about you being experienced with a NM, experience with you lack.

Maybe you need to party with me more DJ so you can make a better judgement of how I play because others that have played with me can't say jack about my skills and those who made an assumption before playing with me were proven wrong.

I said nothing about your overall skill or anything of the sort, this is one of your issues you are having here. This is not about your skill, your intellect, or anything of the sort, its simply a matter of experience, and now that you have said you have only fought Tojil once, it really comes down to the fact you simply do not have that experience. I am not saying you have to kill 10 Tojils to be able to talk about it, I am saying that your experience with a NM or any fight in general will heavily weigh in on your ideas for how to confront it, since you lack the experience others have with the NM, you can easily end up looking foolish, as you have done a few times in this thread I believe.