Suggestion: Aby proc cells

[Tsukino_Kaji]

3) Shout/yell. Considering there's no guarantee of replies to the positive and the skill level of responders are a mixed bag, this is not a whole hell of a lot better than soloing.

Their respective skill doesn't matter. The only reason that they're there is to proc. Who cares if the lvl99blm, who only needs to be like 75, has the skills of a lvl30. You're the one that's doing the killing and again, all they need to do is proc.
Questions: Do you even have 99thf/nin? Do you realize that in this day and age, you have to level other jobs even if you don't want them, to better facilitate obtaining the gear for the jobs that you want?

[Trisscar]

Questions: Do you even have 99thf/nin?

Yes I do have THF/NIN. I don't like that half my inventory gets ate up by NIN tools, but its a necessary evil.

Do you realize that in this day and age, you have to level other jobs even if you don't want them, to better facilitate obtaining the gear for the jobs that you want?

Yes I do. That's the reason why I leveled WHM, despite not liking the job (it is also geared and skilled, plus has all the spells to the point that I feel comfortable to offer it for events like Voidwatch). I also have BLM at level 90, but wouldn't offer it even for Abyssea because I don't have all of its procs and my BRD is still level 5.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Well having the procs and having skill are different and your brd only needs to be, I forget, like 24. lol

[Trisscar]

Well having the procs and having skill are different and your brd only needs to be, I forget, like 24. lol

Actually skill is still vital, even in Abyssea. Unless you think missing with all the spells you throw at it (even with Elemental Seal) is a good thing?

[Zagen]

Actually skill is still vital, even in Abyssea. Unless you think missing with all the spells you throw at it (even with Elemental Seal) is a good thing?

BLM proc spells can't ever be completel resisted. BRD spells even with capped skill and rocking full MACC gear/atma you aren't going to land threnodies unless you get incredibly lucky. If your goal is proc Tsukino_Kaji is right in that you don't need skill for that.

As to missing with Elemental Seal the only time I've ever done that in Abyssea is with spells the monster is immune to

[Demon6324236]

Honestly if you want to solo seals, do it with RDM/NIN, you can solo most Abyssea mobs easily with some decent gear most likely & you get 3/7 procs with the ability to use a TH sash given you have one.

People will always complain about adding a new way to solo seals because thats what procs were meant to stop, but at the same time, its needed which people seem to not understand because once everyone has something, they often don't want to go back. I myself hate doing seals, I have about 5 +1s left to get, then I want to never fight a seal NM again, this means I probably wont be helping anyone with them either, making it harder for people to get help with seals too.

[Zagen]

People will always complain about adding a new way to solo seals because thats what procs were meant to stop, but at the same time, its needed which people seem to not understand because once everyone has something, they often don't want to go back. I myself hate doing seals, I have about 5 +1s left to get, then I want to never fight a seal NM again, this means I probably wont be helping anyone with them either, making it harder for people to get help with seals too.

I help when asked, well when asked from friends or if I'm bored and see a random shout. Even without help and if you're truly incapable of soloing a seal NM there are quests. SE did a good job in creating ways for people to "solo" +1s and giving people who actually want to play a MMO with other people a way to get +1s faster and get even better gear options. Despite SE seeing Abyssea as a mistake it's actually one of the best designed systems in the game, it provides serveral different ways to get things from it without excluding any 1 player (jobs is a different story).

[Alerith]

Wow how wrong can you possibly get? This actually does help groups out a lot. Lets say you do manage to start getting people together for a seal run, but you can't fill the fourth slot. Not only is this not unheard of, but its fairly common. It's usually the BLM/BRD you can't get.

No, this does not help groups out a lot. Because GROUPS comprise of MULTIPLE people. And if you have multiple people, you have multiple sources of procs.

These cells would do nothing more than encourage less group play because a group will no longer be required to proc. 100% activation or not, having cells in mass quantity make up for it's non-100% proc rate. Unless of course you limit these cells to Rare/Ex, then they become completely useless.

Also, you don't need 4 player slots for a successful seal/+2 item farm.

So what you expect that group to do? Sit around and shout fruitlessly for hours, increasing the chances that group will disband before killing a single thing?

I expect people to go out and kill the NM. If you're gonna disband because you're missing a handful of procs instead of doing something productive like fighting the NM with what you have, then again, it's your problem and not the system.

Choosing to disband with no gain over some form of gain fighting the actual NM is almost always the wrong decision for seal NMs, and can be a stupid choice for most +2 NMs with simple pop conditions.

The cell idea would allow the group to be able to cover that weakness of BLM or BRD if they come up even without having either present. And since reading for comprehension is apparently not a skill you've been keeping leveled, the cells do not have a 100% rate and are subject to the same limitations that normal proc have.

Weaknesses are different for a reason. If you were meant to be able to proc without the required jobs, it would be more in the style of Dynamis proc'ing, which I still don't find acceptable for Abyssea.

Also, as I said before, 100% activation or not is irrelevant if you can hold multiple cells, and if you can't, the cells are basically useless.

[Mirage]

just add /fume for Abyssea as well.

[Mayoyama]

May I suggest to OP to do what a LOT of people do, and level a 2nd account as a whm/proc mule and dualbox? Sure its going to take a while to level, skill, gear and build up some aby stones.. but since doing mine I havent looked back. This also has many other benefits outside abyssea.

And as for +1 seals... a friend of mine just returned to game and had no aby stuff done... me on THF/NIN and him on RDM/WHM (without refresh atmas for a while too!) did just fine in getting him seals. Even with no procs, some decent TH on mob will still net you (usually) a seal or two, which is certainly better than twiddling thumbs in Port Jeuno... lol