Suggestion: Aby proc cells

[Zagen]

So it's lazy compared to buying KI to spawn (for example) Cloris, bypassing all the farming you would normally have to do?

If you're lazy you wouldn't have the Gil to buy pops. Is it lazier than farming the pops yourself? Sure I'm not arguing that. This is a poor example because this is like buying pops off the AH instead of farming them. While you can buy a KI you still need to cover procs be it yellow, blue, red, or TH.

If you can't see why the solution I suggest is better than I'm not sure if you'll ever understand even if I explain it to you.

Your solution encourages soloists because the fact is people will take a sure fire way to proc over waiting for friends or trying to get people together, because we're all lazy.

Besides, you say you're concerned about it impacting groups. I fail to see how it could be anything but a boon for groups.

Did you even read my example?

Don't have a MNK for blunt procs? No problem! Don't have anyone with GK when the red proc is Koki? No problem!

Stop being lazy make friends with people who're on when you are that have these jobs or level them yourself.

[Trisscar]

If you're lazy you wouldn't have the Gil to buy pops. Is it lazier than farming the pops yourself? Sure I'm not arguing that. This is a poor example because this is like buying pops off the AH instead of farming them.

To be clear, I'm not against buying KI. But let's say you are someone stuck soloing Briaeus? This isn't wholly impossible, a lot of jobs can do it these days with a minimum of fuss. If they can just buy the KI then they can knock out out Briaeus, get drops, buy KI again, and spawn Briaeus again a hell of a lot faster than a group farming pops the old fashioned way.

The way I suggest doesn't allow for short cuts, but makes getting red proc for a soloist much more streamlined and less stressful.

Your solution encourages soloists because the fact is people will take a sure fire way to proc over waiting for friends or trying to get people together, because we're all lazy.

I won't lie, yes the idea is targeted at soloists. Because they're the ones who are being unfairly penalized. But it also benefits groups.

Stop being lazy make friends with people who're on when you are that have these jobs or level them yourself.

As a mater of fact, I'm in a shell that's very helpful. I also have most of these jobs leveled, even if I'm not confident in my ability to play them well.

[Zagen]

The way I suggest doesn't allow for short cuts, but makes getting red proc for a soloist much more streamlined and less stressful.

This is a contradictory statement. Allowing for a soloist to have a more streamlined/less stressful way to get red procs allows for short cuts in the intended gameplay. Specifically gameplay designed to create a need for cooperation between players.

I won't lie, yes the idea is targeted at soloists. Because they're the ones who are being unfairly penalized. But it also benefits groups.

Hmm, a soloist being penalized in a game designed to be played together with other players who'd have thunk it.

[Trisscar]

This is a contradictory statement. Allowing for a soloist to have a more streamlined/less stressful way to get red procs allows for short cuts in the intended gameplay. Specifically gameplay designed to create a need for cooperation between players.

No, not really.

Hmm, a soloist being penalized in a game designed to be played together with other players who'd have thunk it.

A lot of times a person who solos something in a MMO, really doesn't have a choice in the mater. What are you going to do when (say) you want to do an assault and no one wants to assist? Not any one in the shell, not anyone in Jeuno, not anyone on your friends list.

This happens because content becomes outdated, people lose interest, and there's not incentive for them to participate.

This also happens a lot in Abyssea content as well these days, especially where it pertains to farming seals. If you're late to the party you're pretty much stuck going it alone.

But the thing is, without the procs (which, as you have pointed out, favor groups) you probably going to be spinning your wheels for a few hours, if not days.

And you think this is alright?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

No matter how little time I had, I was almost always able to find people to help in aby. For seals that is. Try streamlining your yells to be more efficient and inclue more auto. Also you need to shout along with it in port jeuno as this is the major hub. Not everyone has yell turned on and if you're not shouting in the largest zone, then what's the point? Don't forget that you have to stand in the middle of the zone, if you're at the mog house or the exit, people on theother ends wont see your shouts.

Example: SAM, WAR, WHM [Head] [Paper] [Do you need it?] [/tell]

The simpler and more strait forward you keep it, the more people will understand.

[Zagen]

A lot of times a person who solos something in a MMO, really doesn't have a choice in the mater. What are you going to do when (say) you want to do an assault and no one wants to assist? Not any one in the shell, not anyone in Jeuno, not anyone on your friends list.

This happens because content becomes outdated, people lose interest, and there's not incentive for them to participate.

This also happens a lot in Abyssea content as well these days, especially where it pertains to farming seals. If you're late to the party you're pretty much stuck going it alone.

But the thing is, without the procs (which, as you have pointed out, favor groups) you probably going to be spinning your wheels for a few hours, if not days.

And you think this is alright?

Maybe that person should pick a different genre of games at that point.

As to me I have found friends who are willing to help merely because I ask even if there is 0 direct benefit to them. It may not be at the exact moment I want to do it but scheduling a time with them has always worked out. Again make better friends. This is a game intended to be played with others, if you want a game that caters to "soloists" look elsewhere.

[Trisscar]

Maybe that person should pick a different genre of games at that point.

As to me I have found friends who are willing to help merely because I ask even if there is 0 direct benefit to them. It may not be at the exact moment I want to do it but scheduling a time with them has always worked out. Again make better friends. This is a game intended to be played with others, if you want a game that caters to "soloists" look elsewhere.

No, not looking for a game that caters to soloists. Just would like to see this one stop cock blocking them.

[Zagen]

No, not looking for a game that caters to soloists. Just would like to see this one stop cock blocking them.

The game isn't cock blocking them though. Either it's the player or the people they associate with which is why I said make friends or get new ones initially as that is the proper solution to your problems.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

No, not looking for a game that caters to soloists. Just would like to see this one stop cock blocking them.

Go VW for massive cruor and just brew everything.

[Trisscar]

Go VW for massive cruor and just brew everything.

Again, this isn't really about myself. If I have to do anything Abyssea related my process goes like this:

1) Ask in LS chat. Usually sufficient enough for me, and I typically don't have to go any further than this.

2) Ask the people on my friends list. Considering that it is made up mostly of people who no longer play, this step isn't as reliable as step 1.

3) Shout/yell. Considering there's no guarantee of replies to the positive and the skill level of responders are a mixed bag, this is not a whole hell of a lot better than soloing.

4) Solo it. Again, my last resort.

5) ???

6) Get it done don't mater what.