NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Gokku]

I pose another question for anyone / everyone.

Examples : FFXIV2.0 / WoW

Now wow supports user created content interfaces etc to enhance player ability / information flow from the game to the player. Be it simple UI tweaks , in game quest help , loot tables etc. I do recognize that WoW is on PC only , hence me bringing up ffxiv2.0. It has been stated that 2.0 will allow PC users to experience that same kind of user created customizations, and that those will be unique to the PC experience. Both will have and DO have obvious rules to what the add ons can and cant do.

That being said , lets say the FFXI team realizes "hey its about time we caught up with the future and let the player base expand what we don't have time to" and they allow the same general idea of 3rd party addons to be ok'd on PC within a limited scope. so you would have , (cheat) windower and most of its basic plugins allowed , status timer, yarnball, timestamp , chatmon etc. those are all user based add ons that effect the game in no way. BUT fillmode , all bots ,etc are still banned.

For console players would you be mad at it, for pc users cheaters would you be happy, for none cheating pc users would you consider using add ons.

i guess im just curious if its the CHEAT factor or the fact of THEY CAN BUT WE CANT that has so many up in arms about this event. i mean ill be reactivating my account just for this mog shit in a week or so but still curious as to what is driving the rage machine.

[Demon6324236]

I pose another question for anyone / everyone.

Examples : FFXIV2.0 / WoW

Now wow supports user created content interfaces etc to enhance player ability / information flow from the game to the player. Be it simple UI tweaks , in game quest help , loot tables etc. I do recognize that WoW is on PC only , hence me bringing up ffxiv2.0. It has been stated that 2.0 will allow PC users to experience that same kind of user created customizations, and that those will be unique to the PC experience. Both will have and DO have obvious rules to what the add ons can and cant do.

That being said , lets say the FFXI team realizes "hey its about time we caught up with the future and let the player base expand what we don't have time to" and they allow the same general idea of 3rd party addons to be ok'd on PC within a limited scope. so you would have , (cheat) windower and most of its basic plugins allowed , status timer, yarnball, timestamp , chatmon etc. those are all user based add ons that effect the game in no way. BUT fillmode , all bots ,etc are still banned.

For console players would you be mad at it, for pc users cheaters would you be happy, for none cheating pc users would you consider using add ons.

i guess im just curious if its the CHEAT factor or the fact of THEY CAN BUT WE CANT that has so many up in arms about this event. i mean ill be reactivating my account just for this mog shit in a week or so but still curious as to what is driving the rage machine.

Actually~ If I'm not mistaken this is what you suggest in a way. We are getting a PC-only UI update that will allow for players to addon to the interface due to SE giving players the coding and such to do so. Also we will be able to open many windows and have a very different and open interface if we choose it seems. From how people in that thread make it sound it is much the same as FFXIV is, however I don't know from experience. If this is the case its not so much a "what if" its more a question of "when the time comes" that we should be asking.

[Alpheus]

From how I understand the upcoming UI changes Demon they will only be accessible should you happen to play sans a controller. I'm not saying you aren't aware of this but rather just chiming in to possibly clarify (since what I'm saying is to my understanding) that these will not be blanket UI changes.

Then again perhaps details w/ the UI update and changes are up in the air.

[Demon6324236]

Yes but the question asked was about the UI changing for the PC, it is changing, not that everyone must use it but it will be given as an option to PC players. So far as controllers I am confused how they mean it, it could be where you can not use a controller at all with it, or just that the controller would not be able to move things or access certain parts of the change. In either way the change will still be made and some of the community will use it, it may even allow for changes people will make to how macros work & controller accessibility, I may be to optimistic in this though. In any case I was only pointing it out because PC is getting an update in UI and it will be legitimate either way while consoles will not have access to the option let alone function, which seemed to be who it was aimed at mostly (or at least those who think people with different interfaces are cheating, currently they are however later, they might not be.)

[Eric]

Portant(+15) Make a win party for Raja, bring a brew, and ask a friend or someone coming for win to try to proc blue while its blunt time, also bring a THF if possible.

Sorry, this is a bit of a late reply, and also an off-subject one, but why use Portent pants when the AF1 pants do the same thing (Enhancing magic +15 while under Light Arts)?

Is there something I'm missing here?

[Gokku]

Sorry, this is a bit of a late reply, and also an off-subject one, but why use Portent pants when the AF1 pants do the same thing (Enhancing magic +15 while under Light Arts)?

Is there something I'm missing here?

brewing is faster then doing the AF quest i think, esp since youll be int he zone farming af3+2 anyways

[Zerich]

SCH is a borked job which offers nothing but chaos to FFXI, and without Embrava, what would it be but a slot-taker for RDM, WHM or BLM? Yeah, that's balanced... <_<

i must introduce you to my dear friend, <<Stratagems>>

[Llana_Virren]

Sorry, this is a bit of a late reply, and also an off-subject one, but why use Portent pants when the AF1 pants do the same thing (Enhancing magic +15 while under Light Arts)?

Is there something I'm missing here?

Maybe the Dark skill on Portents? I don't know either :P

[Arcon]

Sorry, this is a bit of a late reply, and also an off-subject one, but why use Portent pants when the AF1 pants do the same thing (Enhancing magic +15 while under Light Arts)?

Is there something I'm missing here?

Because Portent are a clear upgrade if you have them. They may not be in any way essential, but if you have them, it's an inventory saver, because it does the same as the AF1, only the skill bonus is constant, they are equippable by several jobs and have Dark skill as well, which is actually useful, unlike Healing or Divine.

[Demon6324236]

Sorry, this is a bit of a late reply, and also an off-subject one, but why use Portent pants when the AF1 pants do the same thing (Enhancing magic +15 while under Light Arts)?

Is there something I'm missing here?

This was actually an oversight on my part, I am not familiar with all of the AF sets for SCH. As RDM I had to get Portent because while AF1 legs for RDM has Enhancing Magic Portent were a clear choice for Enfeebling as well. I use them on my SCH for this reason so I put em in it, however I'm sure AF1 SCH legs work just as well ^_^